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15 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
I'm not sure people without a subscription can see this, but their site is constantly flowing, based upon FA, trades, combine results, pro days, interview. I'll bet the list you can see is the first early list of the top 100 draft prospects. That ranking changes as necessary all the way until draft day. I can access his latest top 32 for you, and Ramsey is #4. So you don't agree with him and the scouts on the list you saw. How about this one?
1. Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
Production, measurables, competitiveness, and ability to impact a game put him on top for now.2. DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
Rare size, football intelligence, and maturity are all things I saw when I interviewed him.3. Laremy Tunsil, OT, Mississippi
He has left tackle talent like D’Brickashaw Ferguson, but he has had off the field issues. It remains to be seen how he will handle NFL power rushers. Also, he was in the room when Robert Nkemdiche fell out the hotel window.4. Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida State
Versatility, athletic ability, and matchup skills make him a rare find.5. Myles Jack, OLB, UCLA
A great athlete who can play on either side of the ball and multiple positions on defense. The knee injury has knocked him down slightly. A great pro day and he will be on the rise.6. A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama
Men this big, that move as well as him are hard to find. He reminds me of Vince Wilfork coming out of college. He can play almost all of the defensive line spots with the exception of right DE in a 4-man front.7. Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama
A classic team-leading middle linebacker in the mold of CJ Mosley. He should be a 100 tackles a year player for a decade.8. Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
A finished product with all the techniques, and strength to start as a rookie and be a team captain for many years. Has he already reached his ceiling?9. Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
A very good athlete with a top flight arm. He has the football aptitude to play at a high level for a decade. He has the arm strength to throw the ball in bad weather, as witnessed one day at the Senior Bowl.10. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
A high quality individual with NFL size and production as a pass rusher. His 24 sacks in the past two seasons is tops in this draft class.11. Jared Goff, QB, California
Tremendous college production and athletic ability. Slightly built, which could be an issue, but his quick release should keep him out of trouble.12. Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky
He might be the best pass rusher in the class, but his off the field issues make him a risk.13. Kendall Fuller, DB, Virginia Tech
An injury put him in the background since the season ended, but he is a top flight athlete with NFL skills. He is the whole package when it comes to character, leadership, and football intelligence.14. Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
Exceptional size and athletic ability for the corner position. He has athletic ability like Richard Sherman and the maturity to play a long time.15. Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
A top athlete for his position, light on his feet, but like Tunsil, may struggle early against power.16. Darron Lee, OLB, Ohio State
A ‘hybrid’ player in the mold of LaVonte David. He can play in the box as a run and hit backer or he can walk out on a true slot receiver and play M-M. His 4.46 forty was all I needed to see after watching him play.17. Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
A versatile defensive lineman with production. Watch the Notre Dame game against my #15 Ronnie Stanley to see the talent. Still needs some work on technique, but his initial quickness and pass rush will get him on the field early.18. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Mississippi
A well-built athlete who may not run the fastest 40 time, but he plays fast enough and loves to block. I sat down with him at the Combine and was impressed with his knowledge of coverages.19. Jarran Reed, DL, Alabama
He came to the Senior Bowl to demonstrate his competiveness and versatility. If your team needs a run defender with underrated pass rush skills, he’s a candidate.20. Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama
Henry is being advertised as a second round player who is strictly a front side downhill runner with limited vision. I interviewed him and there’s a lot to like about this young man. I believe he will show the NFL people he catches the ball better than people think, and at 247 lbs. he will be a solid NFL running back.21. Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas
Henry is the best tight end in the draft. He has the size, hands, and potential to be a dangerous weapon.22. Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia
Georgia produces outside linebackers year in and year out. Floyd had some up and down moments in 2015, but nonetheless is what 3-4 teams look for at OLB.23. Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
Lynch has the size, speed, and cannon-like arm to play and succeed. He reminds me of Joe Flacco with better foot speed.24. Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
Conklin walked-on at Michigan State with a chip on his shoulder. He is strong, competitive, and good enough to play on the left side. He has better lower body strength than the two tackles rated above him.25. Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida
Many have him higher than this, but his forty time is a yellow flag, and his height is not ideal for the modern game outside against 6’5 wide receivers. Open field tackling can be an issue at times. Things he got away with in college could be an issue in the pros.26. Robert Nkemdiche, DL, Mississippi
He does a lot of things, but doesn’t really jump out on film. His off the field issues and coachability are yellow flags, but he is a talent.27. Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
Alexander says he’s the best CB in the draft and loves to shut down top receivers. He didn’t run at the Combine, he is 5’10, and never intercepted a pass in college. He’s still in the top 32 players, but just not as high up the list as he would like to be.28. Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State
Decker is a right tackle in the NFL even though he has played on both sides in college. He has the traits, personality, and work ethic of a classic NFL starting offensive lineman. Could struggle early, but will quickly develop into a dependable pro lineman.29. Joshua Perry, OLB, Ohio State
Perry is a big Sam linebacker with excellent leadership skills. Football is very important to him and any team that interviews him will want him on their roster. He also has the size and get-off to rush the passer.30. Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
Dodd is still a bit raw, but his 12 sacks last year was a glimpse of things to come. He has fine character and work ethic to develop into a solid defensive end.31. Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama
Kelly has all the traits of an NFL center. Smart, strong, big, and competitive. Athletic enough at the second level, has good technique, and he is sound enough against big nose tackles. He put on a show when running at the Combine.32. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
Had an impressive discussion about football with him at the Combine. He has what a 4-3 defense needs at the 3 technique. He has burst, good hand usage, and desire to finish.Remember, this is the latest Big Board rankings, not where they will go in the draft. And it is not just on watching a game on video and looking up combine numbers. They go to games and senior bowl, they go to the combine, they go to pro days, they interview prospects, sometimes do a follow up interviews with players on their radio show. They evaluate like they would if the have to recommend or choose for a club, like they did before. What is not realistic to you is very realistic to them, and similar scouts, GM's etc... but not all. That is why no GM hits 100% every draft. And I hear Gil Brandt, Kirwan, Polian, etc say there is typically only 16-18 real prospects that grade round 1 every year. Thus by default, 14 teams or so are 'reaching' in round one. I'll put up Chris Landry's top 32 after.
Fantastic!!! Thanks for sharing! I may just have to get my own subscription there!! And yes. This one looks much better than the old one!
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As a follow up, who do you see winning the AFC South and what are your Super Bowl LI? Leave your predictions for these questions in the comments!!
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10 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
Overall ranking # (taken from my scouting sources - Real Football Network)
R. Kelly #32 Top of round 2
S. Calhoun #97 Top of round 4
S. Tretola #134 Top of round 5
S. Wright #114 Mid round 4
K. Marshall #460 UDFA
D. Kindred #283 Bottom round 7 / UDFAGratz on your first draft mock....
Thanks for the input. My only problem I have with this site is that some rankings are unrealistic. For example, the site ranks DB's Eli Apple, Kendall Fuller, and Darian Thompson above Vernon Hargreaves III and Jalen Ramsey. What's to say some of the other rankings are iffy as well. Nevertheless, thanks for the great input here and keep up the great work! If you could find another site with maybe more realistic rankings (I understand this is done by ex-Scouts as well as former players and Kirwan, but its just too iffy to me!) that would be fantastic!!! Thanks!!
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Honestly, this class isn't as strong as some of the past ones, but if Grigson figures out how to protect Luck this year, I would probably grade it somewhere in the C+ to B range!
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First of all I want to thank everyone for quite a bit of the amazing information and ideas that led to the creation of this 7 Round Colts Mock! Not only is this my first mock of the season, its my first ever topic in the Colts Forums!! I would also like to thank Kevin Bowen, Colts Journalist, for getting me from just being a big fan to wanting to contribute my ideas to other huge fans online. So without further ado, lets get underway!!
Round 1 (Pick 18) : Trade with Minnesota Vikings for 23rd pick in the first round and the 23rd pick in Round 3 (86th Overall)
- Round 1 (Pick 23) (from MIN) : Ryan Kelly, Center, Alabama
Its not often a true center gets drafted this high. Ryan Kelly is one of those exceptions. After backing up Barrett Jones his Freshman Year, he got the nod from the coaching staff at Alabama and dominated the opponents in his 35 career starts, the final game earning he and his fellow Crimson Tide teammates a National Trophy. He was awarded with the Rimington Award, given to the nation's top center, as well as sharing the SEC's Jacobs Blocking Trophy (top blocker) with Arkansas' Sebastian Tretola (Via CBS Sports). He paved the way for Heisman Trophy Winner Derrick Henry. Kelly has the looks of the next Jeff Saturday, and paired with Anthony Castanzo, it could be the Saturday/Tarik Glenn 2.0! Now we just need to bring back the old duos mantra of "No one touches 18! His jersey doesn’t get a spot of dirt on it!" Changing the number to 12 shouldn't be too difficult!
Round 2 (Pick 48) : Shilique Calhoun, EDGE, Michigan State
The pass rushing force out of MSU, Calhoun would be in the top 30 if it weren't for his lack of stopping the run. Nevertheless, his tall, lean frame will help him in his transition from DE to OLB. He was a Tight End early in his career, which should allow him to more easily open his hips and drop into coverage when needed. With 131 tackles, 44.0 TFL, 27.0 Sacks, and 4 forced fumbles in his career at Michigan State (Where he backed up William Gholston his Freshman year), he will be just the pass rushing demon that we desperately need. Add to that decent coaching in run defense and you could get a 2-headed monster for years to come!
Round 3 (Pick 82) : Moritz Boehringer, WR, Germany
Here comes the hype train!! My advice to you is: you need to get onboard. The 6'4", 227 lb. receiver from Germany is an outstanding athlete with great hands and a quick release. Oh, and who can forget his blazing 4.42 40 time ... ON GRASS!!! While he compares closest to Martavis Bryant of the Steelers in a size/speed combo, most sources compare him to Packers WR Jeff Janis. While Janis is a backup, you can't forget his Playoff performance against the vaunted cardinals secondary in which he tallied 7 receptions for 145 yards. With both T.Y. Hilton and Donte Moncrief coming in the third round, why not see if the luck continues by selecting another receiver to add height to the already dynamic group we already have!
Round 3 (Pick 86) (From MIN) : Sebastian Tretola, OG, Arkansas
We have already brought in one of the two Jacobs Trophy Award Winners to Indy. Why not finish it off? Tretola had an astounding career at Arkansas, only allowing 0.5 sacks in the past to years COMBINED!!! With Luck struggling to stay upright, we need to bring in one of the best interior pass blockers in the draft. He is surprisingly efficient in setting an edge on counters as well! While he has had weight issues in the past, he seems to have put it all behind him in an attempt to become the better football player he is now! Oh, and I forgot to mention how versatile he is? Let me just direct you to this short video here!
Round 4 (Pick 116) : Scooby Wright III, ILB, Arizona
Despite slipping on many draft boards due to his 2015 injury that limited him to just 3 games, Scooby is an outstanding player. His breakout Sophomore campaign in which he had 164 tackles, 31.0 TFL, and 15.0 sacks was absolutely astonishing!! While he may need time to develop coverage skills, he is already an amazing run stuffer and pass rusher. He has decent speed for someone coming off a torn meniscus, establishing a 4.81 40 at his pro day. While somewhat short and stocky for the position, Scooby has the potential to become the next Ray Lewis!!
Round 5 (Pick 155) : Keith Marshall, RB, Georgia
Who could forget the blazing 4.31 40 Marshall established at the combine. The slippery speedster is already on a level of elite speed, and his jukes aren't to bad either! With no truly blazing speed in the backfield currently, Marshall would be a welcome addition and could turn into a starter in a few years! I can't stop thinking of how much he reminds me of CJ2K!! WE can't not pick him up!!!
Round 7 (Pick 239) : Derrick Kindred, Safety, TCU
While not exactly the best coverage safety out there, Kindred has the one thing that is hardest to teach: Speed. He is uncharacteristically quick for a safety, which should allow him to make up for broken coverages and chase down receivers. He needs development, but he should turn into a solid backup to Mike Adams. Oh, and I almost forgot my favorite part: he played THROUGH a broken collarbone to start every game as a senior, not shying away from big hits along the way! What Grit!!!!
Thank you all for coming and reading this. All replies are helpful and if I get enough time and motivation, I will use many critiques here to help in finding new players! As always: GO BLUE!!!!!!
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I love these players and great job on the information. The only question is if Bell will fall that far into Round 2. Aside from Ramsey, who may play CB instead of safety, Bell is the best coverage safety in the draft. If most GMs are as smart as they seem, I can't see him landing outside of the top 40, much less 48th. But great work novertheless!
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Honestly, we could drop a few picks and still get kelly along with an extra 3rd rounder possibly
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While I would love to see the first mock happen, I don't think its worth dropping 10 spots in the first just to add a high second rounder. If we want an impact player, we need to be picking a bit higher than 28. Add to that that a low second rounder is about the same as a 3rd rounder and its not worth it to drop that far for that little. Idealistically we could trade for a pick in the 20-25 range in the first and still acquire a third rounder (our best round as of late(See TY Hilton and Donte Moncrief)) or possibly even a high second!
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I believe that we can snag the German Giant, Moritz Boehringer, in the third round. Most of our third round luck thus far has come in the form of talented receivers. Add to that the fact that we need a tall receiver (with Moncrief standing 6'2" and everyone else under 5'10") and that his amazing speed (4.41 40 on grass) will blend well with our vertical passing scheme, and he will turn out to be quite the talented player a few years down the line!
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I believe that their is no true WR #3 among the Colts receivers, or even a WR #2. I believe Andrew will target them all evenly and that they should all be considered WR #1's!
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It's perfect as it is. An expansion to 14 would only help lengthen the playoffs, which in my opinion isn't as exciting as the regular season and the suspense of getting in or not!
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I think we should tank and go 0-16 and draft Leonard Fournette 1st overall next year!!!
(It's a joke, so don't get mad
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15 hours ago, ReMeDy said:
Okay, if he wants to hate on our kicker, fine, but could you link me to when he talks about the top punters, because if Pat McAfee isn't top 3, I WILL blow my lid, and the modders will have to restrain me.
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2512605-br-nfl-1000-top-32-punters
Somehow he's #6
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19 minutes ago, DarkHorse said:
Phillip Dorsett who was the first round pick or Donte Moncrief who has shown signs of brilliance. I like them both that's hard to say I don't want to see a first-round pick run out of slot
In my personal opinion it seems stupid to not let Moncrief keep the #2 role. Dorsett has the speed and elusiveness to thrive in the slot while Moncrief is more adept at one-on-one coverage. As well as Donte played last year he deserves the #2 spot!
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The scenario is definitely realistic in my opinion. If this was offered to the Colts and I was in Grigson's place, I would take it without a second thought. With the pick I would choose Ryan Kelly from Alabama, and I would love another third round pick with names like Donte Moncrief, Henry Anderson, and T.Y. "The Ghost" Hilton all coming in the third! This is my perspective on this scenario!
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21 hours ago, akcolt said:
No way are we taking a C at 18. Grigs doesn't value the position enough to do that. He's quick to point out all the UDFA playing in the league and his Super Bowl team with an UDFA at C. I'd be surprised if we go before day 2.
In my most recent mock draft, which can be found in one of the upcoming Colts Mailbags, I have us sliding down in the first while acquiring a 3rd rounder in the process. At that point we could take Kelly and it would add an extra pick in one of our best picking rounds in the past years, with names like Henry Anderson, Donte Moncrief, and TY Hilton all coming in the 3rd! Let me know what you think about this!
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