Fair enough, I know you have been around a long time, If I didn't think we had potential I would not be positive. I think we have a good roster, average at worse. We aren't a bottom feeder. To me bottom feeder may be a different definition because I have seen bottom feeding = 1984-1986, 1991, 1997, 2011. We stunk today but after a stinky game, it is typical for people to pile on and say we suck. I am used to it by now. I think we sucked today but I also don't proclaim the season is over like a few have.