Lawrence Owen
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2 minutes ago, stitches said:
Sherman doesn't have the athleticism of players like Byron Jones and Ramsey. This is the type of corners I'm talking about.
You know, The 2nd game was more of a toss up with T.Y. and Ramsey. Ramsey got a couple very good plays in, But T.Y. also did well also. They didn't do to T.Y. what we did to Hopkins. People tend to think we were completely shut down in Jacksonville. We had 300 yards. T.Y. had 8 catches for 77 yards. We moved the ball a few times. We just did not kick 3 field goals when we had the chance. Jacksonville's red zone defense did an outstanding job.
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1 minute ago, stitches said:
Yeah... great point that you mentioned both Kelly and Alie-Cox. While Kelly's impact is more easily seen most people gloss over Alie-Cox' blocking in the run game. After Doyle went down(which coincided with Kelly going down and Cox going down our run offense has been largely impotent. Mo is hell of a run blocker. He's much closer to Doyle(who was ranked no.1 in the league in run blocking) than any of our other TEs(this includes the specialist blocker Hewitt). When I watch him I could never guess that this is the basketball guy. He plays with toughness and strength in the run game. We been missing that a ton in the last several games since both him and Doyle went down.
Another big thing is Glowinski. I so hope he plays. When we had our starters on the field (all of them) we were averaging 173 yards/game on the ground. Against teams like Buffalo and Jacksonville. and Jet's Defenses. A whole o-line and a good blocking TE with at least a threat to go out on a route is paramount. (Haeg in as just an extra blocker is nice...but no-one where near the same. No-one ever thinks he is going on a route)
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9 minutes ago, stitches said:
TY usually has a problem with athletic big CBs(as opposed to small fast ones) and that's exactly what Dallas has. They usually outphysical him and jam him on his releases to disrupt his routes. I would be interested to see how that matchup vs Byron Jones goes.
Dallas' defense kind of has similar strengths to the Jags defense(Jones-Awuzie vs Ramsey-Bouye are very similar pairings, strong defensive lines with some beasts on the edges, one of whom can get inside( Lawrence-Randy Gregory/Crawford vs Campbell-Ngakue ), very good linebacking cores (Vander Esch -Jaylon Smith vs Myles Jack-Telvin Smith)... I wonder if they will try replicating what the Jags did to us last game.
Overall I'm not sure we matchup great vs them, but then again we've been rolling at home so... hopefully that factor plays into it too.
Actually, he does fine against the bigger ones IF they are unable to stuff him at the line (which is what bunch and over/under formations are used to protect against. Sherman is a big strong Zone CB,...And T.Y. put him on skates. Is why my profile pic is what it is.
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15 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
Look.... I agree with you that Luck often needs a few drives to get comfortable with the defense he’s facing... but once you used the word “historic” that’s where you lost me.
When people use that word, I start thinking record book and stuff like that, not just tendencies. And remember some of Luck’s slow starts can be the fault of the coaching staff or bad plays by teammates. Not talking about this year as much as previous seasons.
Sorry if I overreacted to just one key word. But that one word made all the difference to me.
I think he just framed the sentence wrong, but used the right word. "Historically, Luck has been a slow starter." Because history does show Luck has a tendency to start slow.
3 hours ago, Blueblood23 said:I don't know about fast as Luck is a historic slow starter. Seems like our first couple of drives are three and out. I do see the Colts winning so all is good.
And i do agree he has been known to start slow. But I think Eberflus is not dumb, and realizes loading the box on Dak & Zeke is a priority. A turnover early by a sack/strip or Int will help provide the early spark Luck needs to start on fire and never look back.
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14 hours ago, braveheartcolt said:
The Grinch. PFKAS.
Poster Formerly Known As Superman.
But as others have said, you are not wrong with your polite brand of scepticism. But all is not lost, as we will really find out how good our D is next year, when we face Brees, Ryan, Mahomes, Newton, Goff, Carr, and potentially Brady and Big Ben. Maybe 3 of those retire.......
Or the mummy wraps finally unravel, and dust just hits the floor.
(too dark?)
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41 minutes ago, LockeDown said:
A veteran backup QB should play well against a really young defense like ours but none of them have so far. That’s what is impressive about us is we are doing this with very little experience under our belts.
Agreed, the fact our Defense is doing what it is doing with so many 1st and 2nd year players, and a new coach and scheme, should not be overlooked.
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4 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:
I appreciate your Keen insight the only thing I have a problem with is Vanderesch is a very good player with a great deal of range. Our running game is going to have a difficult time getting started in this game so it's important we do not stall out our first few drives like we have the last few weeks. The key to this game is catch the stinking ball! With swoope being cut this is time for Cox to shine with his great height it is tremendous jumping ability. I think Pascal has the ability to set well in the secondary for possession passes. He has some of the best hands on the team. The real wild card here is what the other receivers do. Inman, Grant and Rogers need to be on top of their game. That's a big ask but that will open up the running game and keep us from being one-dimensional
I agree to the bolded, and put those facts into my observations. Is why i say run directly at them when we do run...so to get a blocker on him right away. Because he and Smith and run a stretch play down fast. Also why i have TE's clearing the middle of the field. I meant clearing the LB'ers out so our WR's can go in right behind and be wide open.
Also, yes, we HAVE to keep running the ball. Even if it is not very successful at first. It wears down a defense, and makes them respect the run enough to make play action effective.
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We all know what homerism is. And I have found myself in that company a time or two myself. But the more I research, the more I see Indy just dominating this game versus the Cowboys. Now, It will sound like homerism as you read, but EVERYTHING I am about to write will have stats and/or history to back it up. This is why:
First off, The biggest threats on the Cowboys offense are without a doubt Ezekiel Elliott & Amari Cooper. Zek is by far the most all around dominate RB we have faced. He leads the NFL in yards @ 1262 and averages 4.7 YPC. He is fed a LOT. He averages 21 carries/game, which is by far the most in the NFL (2 more carries/game than even Gurley). He is this teams bread and butter. If he can't get it going, Cowboys have to rely on Dak to carry the team. Indy is 5th in the NFL in YPC allowed, and have 5 players on the front 7 with 9 or more TFL's on the season. Indy is REAL good at stopping the run. We just need to stack the box every possible run down with 8. Bring Geathers down to help.
They use play action a lot also because of how effective their run game is. Once the Defense reads the ball is NOT in Zek's hands, they HAVE to do 2 things most importantly. #1 Put a fast good tackler on Zek. He is a big play machine when Dak dumps it off to him. I would have one of our LB'ers Leonard or Walker on him as a shadow. #2 Is do the EXACT same thing to Cooper we did to Hopkins last week. Whichever CB has Cooper, have him underneath, and have Hooker just over the top. This will take the #1 WR the past 6 weeks of the NFL out of the game.
Also, Dak is the MOST sacked QB in the NFL. Being sacked 48 times and hit a whopping 91. He makes terrible decisions when under pressure. Eberflus need to dial up those blitzes. Make those run blitzes turn into pass blitzes when the ball stay's in Dak's hands.
If we do this, (toughest thing is stopping Zek's running attack I admit) We force Dak to win the game without his 2 main weapons. I don't believe he can. I think we'll even get a few turnover's in the process whether by strip sacks, or just errant throws by an under pressure Dak.
Offensively, we need to stay protective of the pass rush ourselves. Cowboys are tied for 12th in the NFL with us in pass rush sacks. But unlike us, they have a premiere pass rusher that take the biggest load. Lawrence. Lock him down. When a team only has 1 top pass rusher, Our offensive line has given up only 4 sacks this year to teams with only one sack master over 8 sacks on the year (to this point). Most of our sacks come from teams like the Jags or Titans with multiple sack masters on their team. Double down on Lawrence.
Stay away from screens, like i said, Very fast rangy linebackers. And use Ebron and Mo-Alie Cox on Clearing routes. For once, I think we can use our TE's to help our WR's. Use the TE's to clear our the LB'ers from the middle of the field and hit our WR in those vacant spots. I would work on their DB's ALL game when passing. Hit those soft zones. Cowboys play a very similar zone scheme to what we do. Luck see's them every day, so he just need to play like he is playing his own defense.
Run the ball directly at them. This defense is fast, but not very big. Much like our own. Run traps and guard pulls to hit linebackers on the second level to spring our fast RB's out to the open field. If we get even 3 yards/carry, it is successful because they know if they move someone back a big one could break. So keep running even if the gains are minimal. It will work in the play-action when Luck decides to keep it.
This is how i see the game. I honestly think 21 would win this game. But if Zek is held to under 4 YPC like every RB we've faced (Except Sony Mitchel), I like our chances of winning by a bunch.
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5 hours ago, Behle said:
A good defense is supposed to show up bad offenses. Past years our defense allowed inferior offenses thrive
Yeah, we decimate teams on D the past 7 weeks, and people want to say "well, schedule, they are weak O's. What was we supposed to do? Had we had bad games people would blow up, we do good, oh well. can't win for winning...lol
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16 minutes ago, J@son said:
well I'm not sure about that
my favorite stat right now for the Colt defense is that the rush defense is ranked #5 in the NFL in terms of yards per carry at 3.8. That's a significant improvement over the Dungy and Caldwell Tampa 2 defenses. Eberflus is also far more aggressive than Dungy/Caldwell(Coyer)...it's easy to see the influence he got from Rod Marinelli.
It is my favorite stat also. So many people think that YPC does't mean squat as opposed to yards in a game. But YPG are skewed. When you have a low ypc this means you stop that run game during the MEAT of the game. If you have a low YPC but a decent YPG, that generally mean the defense held through the first 3/4 of the game, and in the 4th Quarter have went more to a prevent allowing longer runs because they'll give up medium runs and passes to keep you from scoring fast. Colts have had a top 10 YPC all year. And have been improving slightly week to week.
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1 hour ago, Finball said:
We are #1 points allowed too. HOU is within 2 points, LAC 4. HOU has also had soft Schedule, LAC a bit harder. DEN is 8 points behind us but they've played against Mahomes, Ben and Rivers in that stretch, along with Watson.
Here, I'll post a pick of your finding...good job BTW!...can't believe i missed that...lol
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58 minutes ago, shastamasta said:
Playing guys like Derek Anderson and Kessler certainly helps any stats that includes yards. But I thought this past Sunday was very encouraging.
Still, We have played teams that have Great run games..and other that are good passing. Yes people can say 'we've only played these people, or these teams', but #1 is great no matter how you slice it. Yes we played the Titans, but they blew up on the Jags, yes we played the Dolphins, but they just beat the Pats. These are still NFL teams. And to play that well on D in the past 8 weeks is unbelievable.
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Hopefully this is a swap of players. Swoope to P.S., Jalen Collins to active roster.
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Colts since week 7 have played 7 games giving up only 2168 yards in that span. (309 yards/game) This is #1 in that 7 week span! As bad as the Colts were in the first 1/2, once the started winning, they have been doing it with their Defense as well as their offense. IDC who've Indy has played in that time frame, Being #1 in a 7 week stretch is impressive. Especially since we are still riding that stretch!
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When I heard him say it, even i was like "no way!"...had to look it up. Yep. Indy has been the #1 defense in the NFL since week 7.
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1 minute ago, Coffeedrinker said:
Could you not flip that around and say those teams have all played a top 11 defense in the past few weeks?
I guess I don't understand how their offensive ranking over the course of the entire year somehow nullifies the Colts defensive ranking over the course of the entire year. Did not the Colts D contribute to the low offensive rankings?
I did not even think of this. Much like how many of the games, our offense played (at the time) 7 different top 10 defenses (especially top 10 Defensive front 7's). Obviously not all of them are top 10 now...but at the time they were ranked that, and Indy's O was in part responsible for removing them from that top 10 ranking.
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How is this even a question? OFC it is a success. Even if we lose out from here on (which we won't). If we miss the playoff's, i'm still happy with what we have achieved. Early year struggles were expected to happen with new coaching, new scheme's and newly built roster with so many rookie/2nd year's. But they've came together and now we know exactly what we need player wise to be a contender year end year out. 3 positions need a upgrade. unlike last offseason when we thought maybe EVERY position may need one. (yes even QB because no-one was 100% on Luck at that time.)
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58 minutes ago, ztboiler said:
Easy now. We do look like we have a better WILL...but let’s not act like 2 rookies and a second year guy trying to make it are all that yet.
The main thing that would differentiate the second edition is if they choose to defend receivers consistently.
Being we are in a nickel most snaps on defense, that just leaves Leonard and Walker. And I will argue with anyone that the only team in the NFL that has a young due at linebacker, even in their caliber, is Smith and LVE in Dallas.
I know it is only stats, But if you watch them play they confirm these stats.
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16 minutes ago, ztboiler said:
I ain’t gonna lie...I think you just characterized the Dungy D years quite well...and I just threw up a little in my mouth.
The difference between the dungy era and now is, our Linebacker starters are LEAGUES better.
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I'll be honest here. The first 1/2 of the season i was trashing the zone scheme we were using. especially since the majority of CB's we had were used to man. Now that the CB's have had time to get oriented with the scheme, and Eberflus has gotten a good read on his players strength's and weakness', He has thrown a few more blitzes in each game to keep pressure on QB's so the zone scheme is now more effective. This defense is good, but it could be better with a high caliber athletic speedy CB and an elite pass rusher. We get those 2 extra's this offseason...I think we could legit be top 5 defense.
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2 hours ago, Superman said:
I think I allowed for the learning curve, the young players, and the new DC. I also mentioned the injuries, which have surely had an impact.
But I personally don't put a lot of stock in yardage rankings, so I can't say what I expected from those rankings coming into the season. I'm fine with the Colts having decent yardage rankings, but I think yardage stats provided a very limited idea of how good a team actually is, in any phase.
And in recent weeks, we've played teams with serious issues at QB: Mariota was playing like trash, then got hurt and set us up against Blaine Gabbert; Tannehill was coming back from injury but still had an efficient game; Kessler completed 75% of his throws against us (good game from the defense, but it seems like anyone can hit 70% on us); Watson was efficient as well, and the defense wasn't exactly stout on that last drive.
The defense being top 15 in total yardage isn't arguable, and it's a positive. But I don't think that it means the defense is good. And when you include a lot of other stats, and consider the opposition, and watch how they perform, I don't see how we can claim this defense is good. Especially against the pass.
The biggest problem with our pass defense i think is the type of zone scheme we run. We do allow underneath throws by design. Anything in the 10-20 yard range is that soft spot in our zone. We normally lock down anything past 25+ and 5 yards and under are 'designed' to tackle fast and stop yac. But any QB worth their salt will see the 10-20 soft part and take advantage. At that point it is up to the defenders to read the QB and react as he throws. That is a tough thing to ask anyone to do IMO. But yeah,...i get that % worry you have.
But i also look at complete drives. not just plays on an individual basis. When you defend the run well, you end up putting teams in long yardage 3rd down. And this scheme is based off making team walk the field on 10+ play drives. Even at 70% completion %, This stalls drives in the long run. If you complete 70%, but have to make 8 pass plays/drive. There is a good chance one of those 3rd downs fail. Drive ended.
I think this is the basis of the defense. Good is not good enough on a bend but don't break type defense. It's meant to allow a score on 1/3-1/4 of drives. TD or field goal. using the % explanation listed above. if you get 3 drives a quarter..and score on 1/3 of them..that's 4 scores/game. That is the safe defense built for a team that also has high scoring offense. 24 points should win games with this type of defense.
This is why i think Indy would beat K.C. They are not patient, they live and die off the big play. And our defense just don't allow big plays. Not that teams don't try. We just take it away.
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15 hours ago, Superman said:
This defense isn't very good. They're 15th in passing yards allowed, 15th in points allowed, tied for 27th on third down (with Dallas, so hopefully our league best third down offense eats next week), our defense has been penalized more than any other defense this season (7.7 times/game; I can't find how many first downs we've given up due to penalty, or how many penalties come on third down, but that's probably a league worst number also). QBs complete 72% of their passes against us (31st), for an average of 7.7 yards/attempt (19th), with a 97.5 passer rating (23rd).
Our defense doesn't give up a lot of "big" plays (usually defined as 20+ yarders) we definitely give up a lot of moderate plays (10-19 yarders). I can't find specific stats on moderate plays, but we all see them happen every week.
The defense has played some pretty good games this season. I'm happy with how they played today, for the most part; the tackling was spotty, and we gave up a couple long third down conversions, but it was a good performance overall. Last week was strong also. But it's no secret that the defense has been torched at times this season. And it's also a relevant fact that these mostly bad-to-mediocre numbers have come against an unimpressive list of offensive opponents.
Of course, this is a new defense with a bunch of young an inexperienced players, some barely replacement level players, and they've probably played an overly simply coverage scheme most of the season. The defense has also been hit with a lot of injuries. So I'm not down on the defense, and I think there's a lot of potential there.
BUT, the defense isn't very good this year, statistically or otherwise.
Something has been bugging me a little about your statement. Can you or anyone in this forum honestly say that you expected our Defense to be 10th in NFL? Or even have the 15th pass defense? Or 12th run defense? Those numbers are really in our favor considering how our Offense can catch fire any time.
As for the Defense. I admit that the first 1/2 of the year it looked bad. Especially the pass defense (Run D has been solid all year). But we had a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players,...under a brand new coach & scheme. Went from 6 years of man...to zone . It is quite possible it just took time not only for our players to get down the scheme, and be able to react rather than think, but also for our DC to get a good feel of our defensive players and call plays that fit their talents. The total defense passing wise is skewed from the first 1/2 of the season. The 2nd 1/2 has been much better. I think the learning curve maybe catching up finally. And just in time also.
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On 12/2/2018 at 4:06 PM, jeepnkal said:
Book it.
still booking it?
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(too dark?)
Why the Colts will put Dallas away...fast.
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1 Thing i see most from Cowboys forums, analyst's, and reporters, is they really don't know Indy. The reporters and analyst's admit that for the most part, and they say when they see the stat's and notice these look WAY different than years past, and go look at past Colts games this year, they were VERY surprised. Most Cowboys fans however just don't get in depth with anything and are more homers than i've ever seen. Maybe worse than the NE fans. They say how the Boyz are going to cream Indy's bad defense and horrible o-line...lol. I mean, you wouldn't believe how many 40-10 predictions i've seen from those fans. 1 part of me wants to sit them down and give them all a real talking to and explain the REAL Colts this year, and another part wants me to wait...see how the game turns out and them when Indy wins, sit and watch how they react the same way the Dolphins, Titans, Texans, and Jags fans acted when they lost to a team they ALSO thought was terrible.