ColtV
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So this is going to sound harsh, but how can so much value be placed on a 5th round pick, when last year's 3rd and 4th round pick provided nothing?
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Cooper's statistical fall directly correlates to Derek Carr's injury and return from that injury. I have zero concerns over his ability. Throw in the fact that the Raiders are in fire sale mode now, Ballard has to seriously consider kicking the tires here
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12 hours ago, chad72 said:
Rishard Matthews has reliable hands, and he has hired Drew Rosenhaus who expects him to sign with another team soon (fingers crossed):
Timing would be nice with 10 days to get him accustomed to this offense.
This has to be the first call Ballard makes today
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1 minute ago, aaron11 said:
i dont actually think he is bad, but the rest of the draft was. he doesnt bring a lot of value against a qb like brady who wont ever test him deep either
I have to concur. Malik gets the benefit of the doubt so far, but to get so little impact in year 2 is really concerning.
My frustrations are certainly magnified due to a bad loss, really the Colts first bad loss of the season, but the Jets game is now a must win.
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9 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
He did have the really breakup in the Eagles game. Worth mentioning while you can play sooner than a year after a torn ACL most people think it takes a full year at least to completely recover from one.
I had the same concerns as the op...until that pass break-up. I think from that play forward he had an excellent game.
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5 hours ago, csmopar said:
I don't think they give 1st or 2nd round comp picks.
Not anymore, I thought it was still possible to get a second. If I remember correctly, a first rounder comp pick happened only once, when the Eagles lost Reggie White
5 hours ago, csmopar said:I don't think they give 1st or 2nd round comp picks.
Not anymore, I thought it was still possible to get a second. If I remember correctly, a first rounder comp pick happened only once, when the Eagles lost Reggie White
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6 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:
Or give them a 4th but they have to give us a 5th or 6th in return since technically he'd only be a 1 year rental who would be free to sign anywhere next year.
If Pittsburgh doesn't trade him, they'll certainly get a compensatory pick in 2020 equal to at least a 3rd round pick, so the baseline offer would need to exceed that
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1 hour ago, MikeCurtis said:
I don't think he cares about the number of touches
He just wants to be paid for it
He accounts for almost a third of the Steeler's offense
One guy.........
ITS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
But.........
We could PROBABLY get Bell for ONLY a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.... AND
some cash that we DO have....... we have the MOST cap space in the NFL for 2019....
Imagine if he would have played yesterday..... we might have actually won
Imagine if we had him for the Bengals game....... we might have actually won
Thats right.... this Colts team could be 3 and 0
We have ONE player that people fear on offense (TY)
Bell is an amazing receiver...... little dump passes that are going for 2-3 yard,
MAY go for 6 or 7 yards if thrown to Bell
He is a better runner than anyone we have on the roster
This quick release offense would be GREATLY helped by another reliable receiver to dump off the pass to
ALSO:
There are SEVEN WRS that make more than Bell does
SEVEN WRS that also have a big guaranteed contract that Bell doesnt have
WITH..... a the BIG signing bonus
Seven WRS that account for 10-20% of the plays..... NOT 30% plus that Bell does
Antonio Brown, who is involved with 15-20% of the Steelers offense, gets 17 Mil per year.........
Its a business ....... the EXPENDABLE piece...... a very expendable piece to this business.... is the RB
What I dont personally know, is what his TRUE attitude is....... If he TRULY is a ME FIRST, ME ONLY guy, that would be a locker room cancer.......
WE DONT NEED OR WANT HIM
Thats what I dont know (nor any other Keyboard jockeys).......... If he is a Jeff George or Eric Dickerson types ....... HARD PASS
To me you at least have to consider him...... Our defense is BETTER than I thought it would be....... its good enough.....middle of the pack
We are stopping teams and limiting them to mostly field goals
We are missing some pieces on offense...... Bell MAY be THAT missing piece........
A team, good enough to get to the playoffs
A team.... without him.... that misses the playoffs
This. This. This. This.
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24 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
I just don't see why he would play under the tag here butt opposed to playing under the tag in Pittsburgh. It's the exact same situation. If he gets hurt, we won't honor any deal made
He has been through 2 years of negotiations with Pittsburgh and he knows he can't come to an agreement with them. They've never offered what he's wanted...otherwise they wouldn't be in this mess. In the scenario where he gets traded here, he'd at least have a tacit agreement with a team that is all-in due to having traded for him.
His objection also wasn't solely injury, he was also concerned, knowing he was gone after this year, that they were going to call his number for 400+ touches, and I believe that concern was well founded.
He has to play at some point this season, he needs at least 6 games to make the season count toward his eligibility. So he's going to have some risk to take on his part.
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2 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
What if Bell tears his ACL before seasons end? The colts would use him as much if not more than the Steelers would. No way they sign him to that contract after a bad injury. This isn't a typical type of trade. But I hope the Steelers are able to trade him. I have conner in all 4 of my fantasy leagues
That's the risk that Bell takes, and he knows it. If he doesn't want to take that risk, then he'll refuse to sign the tender until after the trade deadline. The Steelers are currently in control of the narrative until Bell comes out and says when he will come back. But to answer your question, if Bell signs the tender, gets traded here, and blows out his acl, then your deal is off.
There's a lot of risk here, no doubt about it. But if the Colts get a chance to acquire one of the top offensive talents in the game I hope they take the chance.
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Just now, jvan1973 said:
He can't sign anything until the season is over. He wants to be a free agent and see what he can get on the open market. That can't be guaranteed. If we trade for him, he agrees verbally to the contract, then signs elsewhere, Ballard will take a beating from this fan base
I agree it's a risk, but I think it's a reasonable one.
He won't sign that franchise tag until he knows he would be traded, and he wouldn't play for that team for the same reason he won't play for the Steelers: he doesn't want to take a beating for a team that will not sign him to the deal he wants. If the Colts are willing to give him that deal he's looking for, there's little reason for him to not sign once he's eligible. The Colts would certainly honor whatever offer they made, they wouldn't want him to walk and lose the draft pick that would be required to pry him from Pittsburgh.
I don't think each side honoring the agreement is the problem, it's determining what would Bell's cost be? Todd Gurley's contract would be the starting poing: 4 years, 57mil, and I think 45mil total guaranteed money.
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1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:
I think Ryan grant could be a weapon. Ebron as well, but they come up short sometimes, as does Hilton. It is a new scheme. Bell would certainly make us better, but you can't guarantee he will sign here next year
Well any deal would be contingent on agreeing on a long term deal. If what I have read is true, he can't be signed to a long term deal yet even if he is traded, but to be traded he'll have to sign his franchise tender. He's not doing that unless he has a long term deal in place with whichever team wants to trade for him. Granted, he could back out from an agreements after the season, but it would be hard to imagine him walking away from the remainder of a franchise tag this season, and from whatever deal would be agreed to(a deal that he has been negotiating for almost 2 years).
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1 minute ago, DraftMaster said:
True but we've got the cap space and if Luck could get a running game and Costanzo comes back to solidify the oline we could give luck a better opportunity to throw the ball deep. IDK maybe just an overreaction over this loss...
It's not an overreaction, it's a proper reaction.
Outside of TY, there are no playmakers at the skill positions. Maybe Marlon Mack can be a similar player, but right now he's not. Bell immediately becomes a dangerous weapon in the Colts backfield that defenses must respect. That the stat came up today that Luck's run was our longest play from scrimmage is a huge concern.
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12 hours ago, IinD said:
That's legend status. Almost Roy Hall territory.
Just wait til next year....when Roy's name goes up in to the ring
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I'm a big fan of Andrew's....and I would've done that deal in a second
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Steve Emtman 1992 #1 overall pick
Known for blowing out knees and making people ask me "who is that" when I bought that jersey in 92
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2 hours ago, Coltsfan1953 said:
Idrees Bashir. not really known for anything.
High expectations, low production
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Thats why I dont get upset about who specifically is drafted. I follow it heavily, certainly, and have my opinions on whom I think will be good, but Ive watched 28 drafts and I know how many times I've been ridiculously wrong on players. What I try to focus on in the immediate are "did we address an area of need." If we dont do that, then I get frustrated.
But seriously, professionals, who's job it is to evaluate, might hit on 1 out of 3 prospects, that should be a wake up call for people to consider that their own evaluations may not be that great.
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1 hour ago, Cynjin said:
I know it's the popular thing to do, but it just seems foolish to do rankings before they have even played a down.
I concur. There is nothing more ridiculous than post-draft evaluations. Thats whats funny about draft evaluators who are never held to their evaluations. ESPN finally ran the clip of Kiper stating that Jimmy Clausen would be a starter after 6 years or he would quit.
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Sorry, posted the one from the search screen
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2 minutes ago, MAv said:
Check again on NFL.com
I did, Chad Reuter A- overall. A day one, B day two, B+ day three
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7 minutes ago, MAv said:
And on top of that, I was just I was just reading NFL.com and Sport Illustrated give the colts a C- in the draft...The lowest grade of all 32 teams...and I guess these guys don't know what they are talking about....LOL
Nfl.com has A-
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5 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:
Northern Iowa only played 1 p5 school the last 2 years, Iowa State!
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This is what I've learned in years of seeing Colts fans reaction to a draft: If every pick wasn't used on defense, they didn't address the defense. If they did use every pick on defense, every pick didn't have a first round grade so it was a waste
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Patrick Peterson wants out of AZ
in NFL General
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Based on all the previous trade discussion on these boards, I would say the majority of Colts fans would be ok with this trade if we only give up a 7th round pick in 2020, and the Cardinals pick up the majority of the salary. Otherwise they are against it.