AndreRison
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Peyton Manning ——
"Like I said, I'll speak it as clearly and slowly as I can. He's my friend, he'll always be my friend," Manning told reporters before a fundraiser for the Indianapolis children's hospital named in his honor. "I don't know what happened, I don't have much more than that for you."
What a great thing to say.
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I think the suspension should match the PSI of the Jets game.
However, I think it'll be 6 games.
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The Patriots are allowing this to overshadow even spygate. At least last time they shut up, and allowed the tapes to be destroyed.
Drawing lines in the sand, is asking the league to pick between the NFL to look bad or Tom Brady and the Patriots to look bad. The league will choose the league. That's why I don't understand Tom allowing his agent to take on the whole NFL and their process.
This is gonna be harsh. The Patriots worrying about 6-8 games for Brady should be the last of their worries. It's gonna be much more harsh than that. The team will pay, too.
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If that's the case, I would think this is the one battle the league will choose too fight. The domestic violence suspensions would pale in comparison. The one way for the league to lose money....let the Patriots off the hook, and essentially let it be known you could care less about a level playing field.Yeah. lots of venom. They feel the report was written in such a way to paint the picture the league wanted which is probably true as obviously the league wanted this to come out the way it did ... but man they might be messing with the wrong player on this one ... if nothing else it will be entertaining ...
This why Brady should admit guilt and take a lesser punishment, it could then blow over and the Patriots could get back to cheating. I think it's too late for admitting guilt, though. Brady drew his line in the sand when he let his agent go around the media circuit saying the Colts and the NFL are setting up the Patriots. They're making their bed, next week they will have to "lie" in it.
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It was conclusive that Brady gave gifts to the "deflater", then lied about knowing him. Are you ok with that? I'm not. I don't care if it was Andrew Luck. I have a problem with that.At the end of the day the report was not CONCLUSIVE. Of course any other people other than Patriots fans would just consider that verdict "Guilty" because of our previous record.
This whole media attention will fire up the locker room more, it will be a good season for the Patriots.
6 games for Brady.
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You seem to be a caricature of the average Boston fan. We will see what happens when the hammer drops. I think you'll be outraged.I do. Very much. And the league will be coming to the table with the weakest hand it has had on any investigation it has ever done.
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I think Tom thought he could use the other texter as a buffer between him and McNally, allowing himself plausible deniability. He should have bought them,2.) FACT: Brady lied. He said he never knew one of the equipment personnel, and didn't even know what the man's responsibilities were! This is despite the guy working for New England the entirety of Tom Brady's career, and despite the fact Tom Brady is referenced in text messages and referenced having provided sports memorabilia as gifts.
there very own Motorola Razors back when this started.
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Sports radio is littered, since the report came out, with hosts totally down playing this whole thing. A lot are saying it's all sour grapes, or this is no more than a minor infraction.
What these media types are purposely overlooking is the conspiracy before and after the fact to cover up cheating. On top of that; Tom lies to his coach, allegedly. Tom lies to the public, fact. Tom lies to the Wells investigators, fact. Tom lies to the Commish, fact.
We can all sit and act like deflating football's to the tune of, lowest fumble rate in the history of the NFL for 9 seasons, is nothing more than adding pine tar to your bat. That would be denial. I refuse to be in denial. This is huge. This is one of the biggest scandals the league has ever found evidence for.
In conclusion, if people think Tom is playing in the regular season game against the Colts, they will be surprised by the hammer that's about to fall.
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How many games did Irsay get, 6 games?
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A lot of the media is trying to downplay the cheating and cover up... Costas is calling it gamesmanship. The media is extreme when it comes to other players, but somehow Brady's getting a pass for his involvement in a conspiracy to cheat. I really don't understand the double standard.
It doesn't matter, though. The other owners are gonna want major punishment. So, he will be suspended at least 6 games.
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Brady will be suspended at least 6 games.
People are acting like this is no big deal. There is no way Brady gets less games than the bountygate players. Brady single handedly tarnished the validity of the entire 2014 season in the NFL, and went on trying to cover it up.
Anybody saying otherwise, come back to this thread when punishment is handed out.
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I think you're spot on. It's sad that a player so highly regarded decided to cheat and cover it up.
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So here's what we have so far:
11 of the 12 Patriot balls were under inflated.
Rapaport and Schefter try to downplay it, to the point where Schefter says four times in one interview, There are people who think the Colts cheated by letting air out of the ball.
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That's interesting. If you have time could you explain it a little?Nope.
The "option" is a rigged void. It was designed to be prohibitive so that they couldn't franchise him. There's practically no chance of that happening.
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Do the Colts really need to keep Andrew Luck happy? Andrew doesn't seem to have a problem with that. This guy seems to be very content.
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The Colts notified the league in November
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It is a fact the Patriots had multiple balls under inflated. The NFL made a statement to that effect.
Grigson knew from the November game.
To the poster who asked how the balls in Indy could have been deflated. The Patriots bring and handle their very own balls.
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I probably wouldn't stop watching the NFL if they came down harshly on cheating. I think people just want the NFL to do the right thing if the Patriots are found cheating. They were way too light on the Patriots last time. They did the right thing with the Saints, although I don't think what the Saints did was as bad as what the Patriots did in the Spygate deal. Just my opinion.To each his own, but I think you have a kind of naïve outlook as it relates to abandoning an entire sport over what is really a time-honored tradition of this type of stuff. Pitchers were throwing spit-balls and carrying nail files to the mound forever in baseball. Teams have been stealing each other's signals forever. I draw a big line between Cheating with a capital 'C' and silly stuff like this, and frankly most of the stuff that I consider truly damaging to the integrity of the game has to do with gambling...the Black Sox scandal...Pete Rose....Tim Donahy...Paul Hornung and Alex Karras...those are the types of things where fans can legitimately start wondering if the teams, players, and refs on the field are actually playing a legit game or if they are watching WWE Wrestling.
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You claim yourself it's crazy the Colts set the Patriots up. The reason that's crazy is because it doesn't equate. The NFL said there were multiple under inflated balls. They were all Patriot balls. So if the Colts deflated a ball, the Patriots still had under inflated balls. That doesn't add up. Why assume the Colts deflated any of them?If we're talking about circumstantial evidence, well then wouldn't the fact that the sole 'enough to be considered odd' under inflated ball was the one that the Colts had in their possession qualify as such? And then when taking other things into consideration like:
1. The Colts hate the Patriots.
2. The Colts wanted the NFL to look into deflated footballs.
3. The Colts higher ups have conflicting stories about their knowledge of it.
See? One could connect those dots too as long as we're just speculating. Look, do I think the colts had anything to do with this? Of course not...that's crazy. But circumstantial evidence is not proof, and as far as we know, the fact is that there is nothing at this point that confirms any of the speculative claims that people have been making.
The biggest fact to come out was straight from the NFL...The Patriots were playing with multiple under inflated football's.
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C'mon. Don't pretend you don't care. You wouldn't post if you didn't care. I care but it didn't break my heart when I heard they were cheating, and I won't be heartbroken if they are proved innocent. I would however stop watching NFL if I found out Andrew Luck and the Colts cheated. I stopped watching Baseball because of all the cheating. It sucks to see milestones like Hank Aaron's home run record fall to a guy like Bonds. When I was a kid I loved baseball I loved watching the Oakland A's. But they were cheaters. That didn't break my heart but it did end my love of Baseball. That is a fact.by the way...I am laughing out loud at the "heart on the line" comment. I couldn't care less now that the trophy is in Foxboro. But I have a sneaking suspicion that I DO know someone whose heart may be hurting if this Wells report is as uneventful as most people believe it will be.
There are a lot of people that say if they cheated it's no big deal. Take $25'000 and be done with it. But most hardcore sports fans, not the casual fan, but the fans that have game day rituals and stuff like that, they won't give the Patriots a pass. So pretend you don't care but I know you do, or you wouldn't be here day in and day out defending them.
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So the Colts were complaining for months to the league because it isn't noticeable and is a disadvantage to the Patriots? Think about it. You will see what you're saying doesn't make sense.Does anyone think it passes the logic test that Brady (or any qb) would want 12 game balls at all different levels of inflation versus 12 uniform balls if given a choice? How would an advantage be gained in that scenario? If anything, it sounds like a disadvantage (unless the difference between 12.5 and 10.5 isn't noticeable).
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When your heart is on the line your brain sometimes fails a logic test.Does anyone think it passes the logic test that Brady (or any qb) would want 12 game balls at all different levels of inflation versus 12 uniform balls if given a choice? How would an advantage be gained in that scenario? If anything, it sounds like a disadvantage (unless the difference between 12.5 and 10.5 isn't noticeable).
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The NFL came out and said the Patriots had multiple under inflated football's. Even though that's a fact, people are still claiming one of those was deflated by the Colts.
Grigson notifies the league in November and before the AFCCG. The NFL found multiple balls under inflated. So why would the Colts then let air out of another ball. THEY ALREADY KNEW THE PATRIOTS WERE PLAYING WITH UNDER INFLATED BALLS!!!!
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They were in a time crunch....They didn't want to have a video where it seemed like the ball boy was taking a number 2.If PSI in the ball makes such a difference, then wouldn't it make less sense for all the balls to be at different levels of inflation? Wouldn't it make more sense for every ball to feel the same, rather than have 12 balls, all at different levels?
DeflateGate: Brady suspension expected (mega merge / updated)
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It doesn't matter if that's said or not. Goodell can read the report just like anybody else. If he feels like Brady cheated then he will suspend him.
Huh...it sounds like the Commish thinks Brady cheated. It would be odd if the league announced a suspension coming if they didn't read the whole report. So people can disagree with the conclusion of "more probable than not" all they want. If the league believes he's guilty based on the evidence gathered, then that's all that matters. Just ask Sean Payton.