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22 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:
I missed most of the game tonight unfortunately...
But probably Marlon Mack. Have a feeling hes gonna be a good one.
Mack is a good player. On the Colts Forum Mock Draft earlier this year, I drafted him for the Vikings.
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6 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:
McCaffrey is going to be a stud IMO. Hes like a swiss army knife as an NFL player.
I got home too late to see McCaffrey play this evening. But I did see a lot of Deshaun Watson. I like the kid. He looks so poised. Yes, I know, it is preseason but he looks better than Brock did.
Which Colts players are you most interested to see? I would like to see Tarell Basham.
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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I remember it but not enough to say that was the reason why Jackson wasn't being signed. I remember him as a Good pro, not Great. I would have to go back and look at that whole situation again to give a fair assessment of it is all I am saying. Yes Jackson was Good but he wasn't Steph Curry, he had that potential but wasn't never as Great as Steph Curry is in the Pro's. Let me do some research on it and then I can respond properly.
No, he was not close to the kind of player Curry is but he shot threes like Curry does. He was not a marginal player like Kaepernick.
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17 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:
Hmmm...some might prefer to see it that way. However, I would argue that what Kap did is exactly what that flag gives him a right to do if he so chooses. To me a bigger disgrace to this country are the injustices that have historically and in some instances continue to be perpetrated upon African-Americans, Native Americans and others. Sure we have made strides as a nation and racial & social injustices don't alone define us but real issues continue to exist and as a nation we can't hide behind a flag to avoid dealing with them. This nation should be focusing more on what led to Kap taking this action rather than the act itself which is protected free speech symbolized by our flag.
The media can vilify Kap for his actions because they don't like his chosen form of expression but the flag still stands for his right to do what he did. That freedom of speech is what makes being an American citizen so precious. Sadly, everyday our freedoms are being circumvented by the global elites and the media influenced masses obliviously take up their pitch forks while watching them further erode.
In my opinion, Kap is a middle of the road QB who should have a back up job in the NFL all things being equal. However given the controversy that has been stirred up largely by the media, many owners aren't willing to risk bringing him on. I do feel like he is being black balled to some extent but I also recognize that it is very difficult to prove it as there are public relations and football reasons for a team choosing not to sign him. It is sad that in modern day America, a man protesting social injustices by expressing himself in this way should be treated in a manner akin to how domestic abusers are dealt with by league owners but that is where we are. It is important to also recognize that while we have freedom of speech, one is not immune from the consequences of such speech. Perhaps there was a better, less offensive way for Kap to convey his message. Maybe there wasn't another way that would have had the same level of national impact and discourse. While I support Kap and hope he lands a job soon, I will also say that he didn't do himself any favors by wearing that Castro t-shirt. Castro is seen as an oppressor by many Cuban-Americans so donning his shirt makes Kap look hypocritical and minimizes his validity. This is likely why Miami didn't give Kap much consideration for their opening as they didn't want to offend their significant Hispanic fan-base.
The above are my personal views regarding Kap's situation. I realize that many feel passionately about this topic and not everyone will see things the same way. In respect to that, this will be my one and only post in this thread.
I agree with a lot that you wrote here, but I also believe that Kaepernick could have found another way to express his views and still make an impact without upsetting so many.
I don't believe Miami ever considered Kaepernick or any other player. Cutler has a history with Adam Gase; so, he was the best fit.
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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Jackson was a Great college player, I would say Good Pro player. I do remember him. I would have to go back and research that incident before I can say either way why teams started to ignore him.
You don't recall that? It seemed like an even bigger deal then. He was suspended for a while.
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31 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Lets say Cam Newton or Russell Wilson kneeled before the Anthem this year, does anyone think that they would get the Kaep treatment? They are Top 7 QB's at worse. 25 owners would sign them tomorrow and give them huge Contracts. Kaep just isn't that good anymore. So why sign him if you are an owner to go along with the media circus. I wouldn't.
I don't believe that. You are old enough to remember Chris Jackson, the former NBA player who converted to Islam and changed his name. His play was very similar to S. Curry. He was a very good, young player who could shoot 3s better than almost all NBA players. He chose to pray during the singing of the anthem. He was out of the NBA soon after. He was a borderline great player but he became a distraction and owners were worried about losing fans and endorsements.
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6 hours ago, CR91 said:
What are your thoughts on this situation? Is he being blackballed by the league or is he not good enough to be on a team. There has also been questions about his desire to play, but Cutler's desire is making money not football and yet he was signed.
Just read the Ryan Tannehill thread.
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Of course, I am looking forward to all my team's rookies, especially Dalvin Cook.
In addition, I am intersted to see:
Stanford players Solomon Thomas and Christian McCaffrey.
Alvin Kamara
Evan Engram
Adoree Jackson
Deshaun Watson
Jabrill Peppers
Cooper Kupp
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6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Not sure, haven't asked. I will have to call him and get his takes on how he feels about the season.
He will be excited by Cook. Michael Floyd is also looking great but he may be suspended 4 games for his DUI. Yiur relative may get to like Bradford after all. Zimmer said he wants him to be a leader.
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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Saints are still tough. They put up a lot of points with Brees.
Yeah, I know. What does your relative think about having to face his favorite player in the first game.
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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Oh crap you play Pitt on opening day?? Yikes I don't know.
No, we play the Saints at home. I think Pitt is the second game and it is in PA..
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14 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
NFL, how do you think the Vikings will do this season? I cant pinpoint a record prediction with them yet.
I don't know. I was very optimistic last year. The team looks good. Dalvin Cook is the real thing. He will be the starting RB. He can do so much that AP could not. I was not a big fan of AP the way your relative was. I like more versatile RBs like Bell and Forte. Cook is like Bell. I am excited.
Bradford looks good but he is not the type like Luck or even Stafford who will carry their team. He has talent but he does not use it. He often does not show a sense of urgency when he needs to. That is my biggest problem with him.
The defense looks even better than last year. We have some D-linemen that are playing well.for us but we have no room for them. Do the Colts need one? ;)
I think every fan base is excited this time of year. We have a difficult schedule to start. (Not looking forward to Pitt.) Let's see happens.
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43 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
That's right, I stand corrected. He and Norv were both there, Turner quit. Shurmur moved into his spot.
*** NFLfan said:
I too think Bradford will be better. He is having an awesome camp, wowing the crowds and the coaching staff. Hopefully he will be less risk averse this year and win some games. ***
He can do it, and I'm (and Supes) aren't the only ones to see it and his potential. Give him an O line and some semblance of a running game to compliment him.
The 2016-17 Deep Ball Project
https://brickwallblitz.wordpress.com/2017/03/26/the-2016-17-deep-ball-project-13/
Sam Bradford (Minnesota Vikings)Accuracy Percentage On 16+ Throws: 66.7% (1st)
Accuracy Percentage on 20+ Throws: 59.1% (3rd)"All things considered, however, you just may be surprised by Bradford’s downfield passing. His reputation is that of a short passer, but that’s unearned. Playing behind the worst offensive line in the league, little time is given for Bradford to develop his reads or the receivers to progress on their routes, leading to missed opportunities and sacks.
But when Bradford was able to release the ball, he did it with extreme efficiency. If you’re aware of my past work, you’ll know Bradford was graded highly in the 2015-16 DBP. Usually, there’s nowhere to go but down, but Bradford found a way to go up, further increasing his accuracy with tight, precise downfield bombs hitting receivers in stride and away from defenders. He finished with the highest overall downfield accuracy in 2016, with 66.7% of his passes being accurate.
Bradford’s downfield passing isn’t just underrated, good, very good, really good, or great. It’s sensational. Look for yourself and see a quarterback with tremendous deep passing ability."
FINAL GRADE: A+
Blake Bortles (Jacksonville Jaguars - for comparison sake)Accuracy Percentage On 16+ Throws: 33.0% (30th)
Accuracy Percentage on 20+ Throws: 27.7% (29th)"There’s bad, there’s really bad, and then there’s Blake Bortles. Usually the lowest grade I give is an F, and that’s because the worst QBs at least have some good throws. Bortles found a way to bypass that and is the first quarterback to receive an F- in the history of the Deep Ball Project.
You have to try to be as bad as Bortles was. ... {snip horrid stuff!}"FINAL GRADE: F-
Andrew Luck (Indianapolis Colts)Accuracy Percentage On 16+ Throws: 66.3% (2nd)
Accuracy Percentage on 20+ Throws: 57.4% (5th)"After missing the 2015-16 Deep Ball Project due to injuries, Andrew Luck rebounded in a big way, bigger than I had given him credit for.
Andrew Luck has always been a great quarterback, but in 2016 he took his game to a new level, minimizing mistakes while making more jaw dropping plays than ever before. His overall accuracy of 66.3% was only ranked 2nd to Sam Bradford, and this came despite playing with poor coaching and a weak (though slightly improved) offensive line.
What Luck’s been able to do in 2016 was astounding. He was legitimately bad in 2015, but made sure that season was an outlier for good, delivering top notch passes upon top notch passes, often making his next throw his best one.
With yards and touchdowns galore, and supreme accuracy, Andrew Luck’s 2016 season was an otherworldly one."
FINAL GRADE: A+
Some other notables:
Tom Brady - C
Drew Brees - A
Derek Carr - A
Joe Flacco - F
Colin Kaepernick - D+
Cam Newton - A-
Marcus Mariota - CBrock Osweiler- "If you thought Blake Bortles was awful in 2016, Brock Osweiler won’t change your mind, but he’ll be just as miserable to sit through."
FINAL GRADE: F-see the whole list / article here-
https://brickwallblitz.wordpress.com/2017/03/26/the-2016-17-deep-ball-project-13/I think Brickwallblitz is by Johnathan Kinsley (or a name like that). He is a big fan of Bridgewater, even more so than he is of Bradford. I thought of joining Twitter just to follow Kinsley because he does really good work and he loves my QBs.
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12 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
Sorry if I stepped on some feet. I guess I just mis read what you said. No where in your comment did you say I or me.
That's okay. I did not make it clear that the message was for myself.
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28 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
I agree, and I feel Sam Bradford will be even better his year than last (even though he was the most accurate passer for a season in the history of the NFL) for NFLfan's Vikings.
Last year he had 2 weeks under Norv turners system to get ready. Shurmur was brought in after Norv resigned. so Sam and Shurmur had last year to get things working together. This year, they have that under their belt and can focus on different things, and have all training camp / pre season to do it.
Same here, Gase and Cutler had time together before, and were very successful. they can buil upon that this year, and there's plenty of time in camp to get timing and work into football shape. The system they already have/know.
I too think Bradford will be better. He is having an awesome camp, wowing the crowds and the coaching staff. Hopefully he will be less risk averse this year and win some games.
Regarding Shurmur, he was hired by the Vikes in the 2016 off season, well before Teddy's injury. The coaching staff was growing more and more frustrated with Turner and many thought Shurmur would eventually replace him. So, he was not brought in for Bradford.
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Just now, oldunclemark said:
I don't either. Its a message board.
Say what you want to say. No apologies.
We just disagree
Do you realize that that quote is your quote. You wrote it in the Hopkins thread. I told you that I liked it and I might use it. When I used it here, I should have pointed out that I was referring to myself. I think I might do just that now.
Anyway, I'm done here.
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Just now, oldunclemark said:
I thought you were done arguing?
No problem...........but this 'the NFL owes Colin a job' thing.......I'm just not hearing it
Did you read what I wrote? That message was for myself. That was my opportunity not to respond to you any further. But then Someone else interpreted it as my telling you to shut up. I don't tell people to "shut up".
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Just now, ColtsBlueFL said:
Yes, and beyond. If adverstisers think vieweship for (some) games will drop for some reason, they have less incentive to buy advertising: " Advertisers rely on television ratings to calculate their willingness to spend on commercials. " This affects future TV deals...
Found it for you-
Owners simply do not want to employ anyone that turns off large numbers of fans, and thus lowered viewership (tickets / TV/ etc...) and advertising. That (advertising reduction) could also affect future TV contracts with networks... etc...
That is owners looking out for their 'brand', protecting team value (fiscally), even if technically 'football personnel' on their club determine a guy is 'more talented' than other options. An owner is a businessman that looks at the whole picture. It's also not that they're afraid to take risks either. most of these businessmen made their fortunes with hefty amounts of risk taking involved. They have their reasons, and they are cautiously quiet lest any part of their viewpoints be distorted beyond intent in the public forum. and they rarely (most of them) get in the way of their football guys making decisions. But at times they do. And Kaepernick os an ownership decision, even after the technical fit portion (Yay, or Nay) has been determined.
On top of all that, I am certain this was a last straw on the Camels back-
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article117373083.html
But I already pointed out the connection between Gase and Cutler, and Jay's best season ever as a pro QB under him in 2015.
I agree. My point is that is has little to do with his on field performance.
Re the Dolphins, I wrote that Cutler is a better fit.
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28 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
Wow? So someone disagrees with you your answer is to tell them to shut up? Nice.
No, that would be out of character for me. I was referring to myself. It is a good chance for me to shut up. I was copying something that another poster had written.
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Never pass up a good chance to shut up. (My chance not to reply.)
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26 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:
Young has been out a few years even though he has physical ability better than some backups.
The Baltimore owner didnt reject Colin. He said he didnt. I dont know any better
We love to turn a coincidence into a conspiracy. It makes us feel good. if there's a bad guy
Colin Kaepernick isn't very good anymore. We all said that before he became an activist.
He didn't deserve a starting job in the NFL last year (he lost the job) and he doesnt fit as a backup anywhere. And it fair.
49er fans thought it was unfair to them to have to watch him play
Ok. Believe what you will. But I will leave you with this. He was the 17th rated QB last year. He had 16 TD and 4 INT (with no weapons). He had a 90.7 QB rating (Gabbert had a 68.4 QB rating.)
Btw, you seem to like Blaine Gabbert and believe he is better because he started in place of Kaepernick. He started 6 games and had a 56.9 completion percentage, 5 TD and 6 INT to go along with the 68.4 QB rating. I think Kaepernick replaced him and finished the season.
I'm done because you are not arguing with facts.
http://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?lg=NFL&yr=2016&type=reg&mode=P&conf=&limit=50
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GabbBl00.htm
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5 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:
..and a lot of guys have talent but just aren't good enough.
.....I just think Colin isn't cut out to be a backup. He's just not a conventional QB.
He's not young.anymore and he hasn't played well recently.
There is a sense of entitlement here.......
...would anyone be calling for him to play if he'd never protested...?
Guys Like Ryan Fitzpatrick, Vince Young, RG3, all have had success but are now out
Does Colin Kaeprenick deserve an NFL job even if no team really wants him.
See what I mean? Where does the entitlement come from?
Lol. Ryan Fitzpatrick is a backup for the Bucs. Vince Young has been out for a few years. RG3 is the only one that compares to that but I noted that a couple of posts earlier.
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44 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
I feel it does. but not to many coaches / Teams. Kaep is an owners decision. We already heard rumblings about the possibility one owner nixed the idea of getting him. Whether it is real or not, it is not beyond logical reasoning to think owners care just as much about their 'Brand' and peoples perception of it as much as wins.
Forbes once listed 5 reasons NFL viewership was down. At #3 on the list-
"The Kaepernick Protest Reaction. Yahoo Sports and YouGuv surveyed self-identified fans. 29% said they were watching less football. 40% identified the national anthem protests started by QB Colin Kaepernick. The great majority of media pundits and players supported Kaepernick. I supported the absolute right of athletes to express themselves on political and social issues, but feared the stadium was not the right venue, lest it turn into the political equivalent of a campus political zone. It is clear that a protest involving the flag at a stadium had a large negative impact on fans looking for sports as a respite from outside problems."
It's not blackballing, it's who sees him as a 'good fit' for a club? Schematically for coaches and Branding for owners?
I wonder what the top two reasons were. I think viewership was down primarily because of the Election.
Perhaps "blackballed" is not the word, but when a head coach (John Harbaugh) and GM (Newsome) who are considered among the best in the NFL both want to sign a player for football reasons and their owner nixes it, it is clear that there are non-football reasons for not signing Kaepernick. Jvan said it right.
(Now, I don't think the protest has anything to do with Cutler being signed over Kaepernick. Cutler is a better fit for the Dolphins.)
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42 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:
You said it right there. I believe.
You (and I) don't like his game
You (and I) would not want him.
If you and I dont like his game and wouldnt sign him, but someone in the NFL should sign him on stats he compiled last year on a losing team.? I just don't think he's worth a contract., right now.
Remember, they tried to trade him before he became an activist last season and he didnt agree to any deal.
Not enough money. Elway wanted him/ But he regressed last year obviously.
Maybe nobody saw the Bears-SF game late last year...but he was not NFL caliber that day.
But you have to field a team. I said I don't like his game but I also don't like that of many QBs, including Case Keenum who is the backup QB on my team. While I don't like Keenum's game, my team needed a backup player.
Whatever... I am arguing something that most don't want to admit to be true. Maybe he is not being "blackballed" but he is not being signed because of the protest. Jvan admitted just that when he wrote that Kaepernick is just not good enough to overcome the backlash related to the protest. Now that is a true statement.
Which rookie are you eager to see?
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@Qwiz How are the Texans rooks looking to you? In the game tonight, I saw that LB Dylan Cole is playing for the Texans. How is he doing? Will he make the team? I wanted the Vikes to draft him late or sign him as an UDFA.