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Jackie Daytona
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Feel bad for the guy, wonder how far he drops?
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12 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:
Its really fun to imagine the upside of Poe but one has to look at the risk vs. reward. He is night and day sometimes, He does plug up the A gaps but he is inconsistent as a pass rusher but he can show tremendous prowess at times which make him so intriguing.
Bottom line its about the contract but Ballard knows him better than anyone else so lets see
If he was his size, stopping the run, AND a consistent pass rusher from NT, he'd cost a lot more than he will get....
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Keep in mind, we are due to pay a Ham and PDE hotpocket...errr.... Art Jones 7.3 million cap hit this year, so paying Poe a big deal, and subtracting most of Jone's hit as well as his entire hit next year, offests a great deal...... rather pay 12 for last years Poe, than 7.3 for Art the last few years....
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1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:
There are 2 now.
There will be a lot more over the next few years..... but as of right now? Kyle Long and David DeCastro make 10M per, Osemele 11.7 per, and Zeitler 12 per. Bar's been set. Not sure why anyone of their caliber going forward would be paid any less? Hell, Leary just got signed for 8.7 per, and that was after a year of being a backup... albeit on a stacked line.
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4 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Give a guard left tackle money?
This isn't 2012..... Top level Guards get paid 10M/yr. TOP level that is....
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Nice thing is, when the dust settles from this first round of signings, we will have even better cap position relative to other teams, and will be in good position to add FA's
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4 minutes ago, BCoop said:
It's not logic. It's math. You don't blow your entire load on two guys when you have all kinds of issues with depth.
If Grigson's 2013 class wasn't such a steaming pile of %, we wouldn't even be having these discussions because we could just fill out the roster with affordable contracts and look to the draft for talent. Not really sure what that has to do with my original point anyway.Well when speaking of "load blowing" The 2013 class that is non extant on the Colt's roster, would be using the precious cap space that has to be held onto. The same space that we would spend re-upping 1, maybe 2 studs from that whiffed class, we can freely spend on 1 or 2 studs of a Free Agent nature. Thusly, it has everything to do with your aforementioned post, and little to do with said load blowing.
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1 minute ago, BCoop said:
Technically, we CAN. But, we shouldn't. You add those salaries up with dollars allocated to rookies, to Butler/Turbin/Punter, to rollover for next year and injury insurance, and you're not left with much to actually fill out the roster.
seriously? Glad we don't have anyone to resign from Grigson's 2013 class then, because following your logic, they'd all have to be let go.....
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1 minute ago, COLTS449 said:
With the Colts and Atlanta Braves yeah. With UK Basketball??? I'll let you answer that. And in life in general. No not really.
UK basketball? eh, if you like nice shiny new things and folding in the tourney more years than not, sure..... ; )
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3 minutes ago, BCoop said:
We can't afford to sign 2 guys at this level and still fill out the roster.
You need to lower your expectations.
yes, they absolutely could. you can always make room for players you really want. They just have to be worth really wanting.
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Starting to feel like we may wait it out until the first day of insane spending is done, then see whats left to pick from when others have spent their budgets down a bit?
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3rd and 9 and 2017...... aka, who cares. He's gone, we roll with jack as number 1, gain a round and a half in picks, and ship out a 6th....... seems good
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2 hours ago, DougDew said:
Its a lot of money for a G. However, you have to look at the structure of the team.
We have a lot of cap space, and no real stars needing to be paid this year or next year, or probably the year after. If you build the Oline with AC, Mewhort (who wont command Zeitler money), Kelly, Zeitler, and either Clark or Haeg or someone else, you've got a good young Oline and still plenty of draft picks and cap space to devote to the defense.
I think its a lot of money and would lean towards not doing it, but I wouldn't hate the signing...all things considered.
It's not like we are going to be hurting in cap space anytime in the near future....
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1 minute ago, Superman said:
You're exactly right.
That doesn't happen often, so I'll take it! lol
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6 minutes ago, Virtuoso80 said:
how much do we save on the cap for the trade?
I am probably wrong, but I believe we only save 3 million of his 6 mill cap hit?
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I guess screw it, pay 12 M...... I guess it won't be out of line going forward?
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2 hours ago, bananabucket said:
If two average players + a project don't mean lackluster, then I dont know what does.
our returning defense?
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2 hours ago, bananabucket said:
If two average players + a project don't mean lackluster, then I dont know what does.
Bananabucket. That means lackluster, just..... Bananabucket. quit peeing in people's wheaties
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22 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:
No one's saying it was a brilliant signing, but he had other teams trying to sign him & he chose the Colts, and was quoted as saying Pagano was a big reason why. Not sure if that'll be enough to sign a guy like Hightower or Poe, but if one of those guys meets with Chuck, I like our chances.
That was because his former DC in SD was Pagano's brother, and the scheme and terminology was very similar...... not necessarily that Pagano was some excellent recruiter
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3 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:
This area does seem to be the one place where Pagano does indeed have some type of magic touch. If Bouye comes to Indy for an interview, there's like an 85% chance that he's a Colt after that meeting.
Not sure that closing deals with FA's over the years has really been due to Pagano. Is that even in his wheelhouse, as opposed to say, Grigson/Ballard/Raye?
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15 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:
Interesting, i wonder where he could end up.
probably retired, not that he wants to......
Sidney Jones leaves Washington pro-day with lower leg/knee injury [Merge]
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I'd take him if he made it to the 3rd, maybe even with our 2nd