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  1. Apologies if my first attempt at embedding a tweet is wrong but this is the tweet OP was referring to: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">QB player comps <br><br>(*suggest to change; based on style/traits not a career prediction)<br><br>Burrow - Andrew Luck<br>Tua - Drew Brees<br>Herbert - Carson Wentz<br>Love - Colin Kaepernick<br>Eason - James Winston</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1225117960295145472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> In the replies he compared Fromm to Kirk Cousins
  2. If you are going to play 2 games in London it makes sense to play them back to back - the second game would give you a big advantage of having already acclimatized to the time difference. If we are playing the Jags in London, I hope it is the first game of the two so both teams are facing the same issues with travel, time zones etc.
  3. http://www.footballperspective.com/teams-traded-up-for-a-1st-round-qb-16-times-from-2005-to-2017/ is an interesting read on trading up for a QB. There are plenty of interesting names on that list. The question is whether we'd get a Mahomes, a Wentz, a Manziel or a Gabbert if we traded up - there weren't too many names on that list that you'd consider a top 10 QB.
  4. This is the list of SuperBowl winning QBs since 1990: 1990 Joe Montana 3rd round 1991 Jeff Hostetler 3rd round 1992 Mark Rypien 6th round 1993 Troy Aikman 1/1 1994 Troy Aikman 1/1 1995 Steve Young USFL 1/11 NFL supplemental 1st 1996 Troy Aikman 1/1 1997 Brett Favre 2nd round + traded 1998 John Elway 1/1 + traded 1999 John Elway 1/1 + traded 2000 Kurt Warner UDFA 2001 Trent Dilfer 1/6 + free agent 2002 Tom Brady 6th round 2003 Brad Johnson 5th round + free agent 2004 Tom Brady 6th round 2005 Tom Brady 6th round 2006 Ben Roethlisberger 1/11 2007 Peyton Manning 1/1 2008 Eli Manning 1/1 + traded 2009 Ben Roethlisberger 1/11 2010 Drew Brees 2nd round + free agent 2011 Aaron Rodgers 1/24 2012 Eli Manning 1/1 + traded 2013 Joe Flacco 1/18 2014 Russell Wilson 3rd round 2015 Tom Brady 6th round 2016 Peyton Manning 1/1 + free agent 2017 Tom Brady 6th round 2018 Nick Foles 3rd round + free agent 2019 Tom Brady 6th round While there are a few HoF QBs who went 1st overall (Aikman, Elway and the Manning brothers), the only other QBs on that list that we'd have had to trade up from 13 for are Ben Roethlisberger (11th) and Trent Dilfer (who was acquired via free agency anyway) and there are plenty of QBs on that list who were later round picks, traded for or picked up via free agency. Based on the history of the last 30 years, the question should be what would it cost to get us to 1 and is Burrow worth it? Trading up to 4 seems far from certain to yield anything other than reduced draft capital for your GM in future years.
  5. Since 1990, the only quarterbacks picked higher that 13th to have won the SuperBowl are Troy Aikman, John Elway (who was acquired via a trade), Trent Dilfer (who had been a free agent before his win), Ben Roethlisberger (11th pick), Peyton Manning (one of his wins came after he was a free agent) and Eli Manning. Even if you take out Brady as skewing the numbers a little, there more SuperBowl winning QBs picked in later rounds than early picks - Joe Montana (3rd), Jeff Hostetler (3rd), Mark Rypien (6th), Brett Favre (2nd + traded), Kurt Warner (UDFA), Brad Johnson (5th + free agent), Drew Brees (2nd + free agent), Russell Wilson (3rd) + Nick Foles (3rd + free agent). The idea that you need a high pick at QB to win a SuperBowl isn't backed up by the history of the last 30 years.
  6. Am I the only person here who can see KC taking a step backwards and the Jags not being as good as expected? KC's defense last year wasn't great other than the pass rush, and they've lost a few proven performers (Houston, Ford) while only bringing in one proven pass rusher, the loss of Tyreek Hill for a few games may hit the passing game hard (it will certainly make it easier for teams to double Travis Kelce) and they seem to be assuming that Damien Williams will be as productive as he was at the end of last season, rather than the unproductive back from his 4 years at Miami. With the Jags, everybody seems to assume that Nick Foles will be the Eagles version of the player, rather than the Rams version of the player when he was taken out of their system. While he may be as productive as when he was in Philly, it may be a more reasonable expectation of his upside is Case Keenum in Denver level. If Foles is at the Case Keenum level, expect a similar playoff run to Denver's last season despite the quality of the defense.
  7. Draft position does not always equal the quality of the player, just because 10 DL have gone wouldn't necessarily mean that we'd only have 11th best or worse available (some GMs suck at the draft, cough, Grigson, cough). Even if it was true that there was only the 11th best DL on pure talent, that doesn't necessarily mean that (1) he could be of more value to us than some of the earlier picks due to scheme fit and (2) he may still be considered BPA or at least a value pick at that point.
  8. Think it might be a case of Nathan Peterman is absolutely terrible. If the Bills look as bad with Allen at QB then you could be right about the Bills but Peterman has the ability to stifle the Bills offense better than any defense in the league.
  9. Lose the suggestion about baggage with him (Nelson was viewed as one of the safest picks in the draft) and I'd have no problem with taking an elite player not at a position of need, with the possible exception of QB.
  10. There's an interesting recent article on special teams coaches moving on to be head coaches afterwards which has some rather impressive names on the list - Marv Levy, Dick Vermeil, Mike Ditka, Bill Cowher and Bill Belichick. https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-head-coaching-openings-special-teams-dick-vermeil-john-harbaugh-bill-cowher-mike-ditka-121615 There's a quote from Marv Levy which highlights the benefits of hiring a special teams coach - "You got to work in every aspect coaching and evaluating offensive and defensive players, I got to work with just about every position." I know there appears to be a call to get in someone with head coaching experience, but I expect Gruden, Dungy & Cowher aren't interested in leaving their TV gig and the idea of getting in an experienced head coach who would be available (think Jeff Fisher or Marvin Lewis, maybe John Fox) really doesn't appeal to me. If Toub is the choice I'm OK with it. There was another interesting comment in the article about hiring offensive or defensive coordinators: "Excluding Harbaugh, there were 67 head coaches hired over the past decade who were offensive or defensive assistants. Sixty-four of them had play-calling responsibilities as a coordinator. The overwhelming majority of those with four years or less handling those duties failed as head coaches. The success rate of more experienced assistants was significantly higher."
  11. Surely the chances of him being traded depends on how he performs in his starting opportunities. There was plenty of talk before the draft of teams looking to trade a first round pick to New England for Jimmy Garoppolo, were Brissett to develop here to attract that level of interest in the future it may well be decided that the team decides to cash in and look for another backup (albeit one better than Tolzien)
  12. From that list I can see it being O'Brien, they've mortgaged their future to win now (Browns have their 1st & 2nd draft picks next year) and have looked terrible in both their games so far.
  13. Didn't see the whole game but what I saw last night and the extracts I saw on Red Zone on Sunday make me think that both teams will be picking in the top 6 in the next draft. Cleveland's GM must be grinning like a Cheshire Cat as he has the Texans 1 & 2 picks next year because of their desperation to find a functional QB and get Osweiler off the roster.
  14. We may end up with a draft that is pretty much the opposite of this draft and see picks on offense skill position players or LT. If Castonzo is seen as average or worse, Ballard may choose to replace him, you have similar concerns to me about the WR position, Gore isn't getting any younger and if Marlon Mack is only part of the answer we may need to address RB again plus we don't have a great deal of depth or competition at TE. That said, it's way too early to tell what the most pressing need will be.
  15. bananabucket, I'm curious why you think the Seahawks should have been looking to draft Russell Wilson's replacement. He's only a year older than Andrew Luck and at age 28 has potentially another 10 years left in the NFL if he can stay healthy & productive.
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