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    Josh Allen spilling some good info on Richardson

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    2 hours ago, Superman said:

     

    It wasn't meant to be that sharp. But I do think it's crazy to feel depressed by having a QB who could be a Cam Newton level player. The dude was having a strong career until his shoulder went out, and for all of Luck's polish and traditional passing prowess, he didn't come close to an MVP. I also think it's important that the league has changed in the last 5-10 years, and young QBs who are still working on their fundamentals can perform at a high level. 

    I guess. Always thought Cams game was underwhelming.

     

    Also, just for clarification, I don't don't mean "depressed" literally, just figuratively; its just a bummer. This stuff is just entertainment to me, and IF a Newton-like QB is featured in this next Colts chapter then that's a bit underwhelming after what I have witnessed. 

     

    I guess you liked Newtons play. 

     

    Also, If Luck's team had the best record in the league, I'm sure he could have won MVP in '14 or '18. 

     

    Cam went to the Super Bowl when he had one of the very top defenses that season. It was about on par with Denver's, iirc.  

     

    If the NFL has, indeed, changed in the sense that the likely hood of QBs passing at a high level through coaching has increased, we may not be just looking at the beginning of a mere mediocre passer ala Cam Newton, but another Allen.

    Josh Allen spilling some good info on Richardson

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    11 hours ago, Superman said:

     

    I know. Who wants to have to deal with an MVP level QB who can get your team to the Super Bowl? Huge mistake for us...

    Who would not want that? People who are used to watching Manning, then Luck: QBs that excelled at passing, which is the backbone to sustained success in the league. 

     

    So anyone who values elite passing and desires sustained success. 

     

    Surprised to get such a sarcastic and contextless response from you. 

     

     

    Josh Allen spilling some good info on Richardson

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    9 minutes ago, Superman said:

     

    Josh Allen is a major outlier. History says QBs don't improve from mid 50s completion percentage to mid 60s completion percentage, especially not for a prolonged period of time. I'd love if Richardson follows the Josh Allen path, but I think Cam Newton is a counter example. He won an MVP and had some good seasons, but for the most part he was a high 50s / low 60s completion percentage guy.

    Kind of depressing that we likely have a Cam Newton-like QB. 

    Jonathan Taylor comments on his contract/Request trade (Merge)

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    9 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:


    You’re right.   I misread.   It doesn’t.   
     

    That said, it’s not a stretch to think Taylor is as upset as he is now because he played hurt for the team down the stretch in meaningless games — got hurt twice more — and now the team is using that against him.   Seems most everyone here has noted how un-Taylor-like JT has been.   The article writes about that.    

     

    As I said to another poster, if someone (Taylor) with a pristine record both in college and the NFL suddenly has done a 180 and is behaving differently, there might be good reason.   
     

    Thanks for the correction. 

    How were they meaningless games? If I recall, he didn't play late in the season when the Colts were eliminated. 

    Jonathan Taylor comments on his contract/Request trade (Merge)

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    3 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

    Hence the need for governance. Both sides need kept in check for balance. 

     

    An example: my local area has a thriving corporate business that is making tons of money and therefore the employees are wealthy. The same business is also now being found for polluting our water, and the pollution has caused cancer in many of the local residents. Some of those residents have tragically died, including several of my friends. 

     

    So while the capitalist side has benefited my community moneywise, uncontrolled greed has also brought so much cancer to my area that they've had to build a separate hospital/center to treat all of the sick. 

    Unfortunate that you fell for that red herring. Derailing this thread. 

    Jonathan Taylor comments on his contract/Request trade (Merge)

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    16 hours ago, Colt.45 said:

     

    I understand the viewpoint and comments can stir emotions but it is odd to me that we get mad about the players but not the owners. It is odd to me that we get mad about the players talking of their families when we dont know what their expenses are. Or that we seem to get savagely mad at folks maximizing their earning ability as if that's not what many of us do or try to do in life.

     

    You are absolutely digressing; that's a whole different conversation and an annoying red herring that I have no interest in touching. The amount the owners make have nothing to do with the subject; it's completely irrelevant because of the salary cap; there is only so much money to go around. 

     

    Like I said, fans are interested in seeing their team win the Superbowl and Taylor's  shenanigans are a road block to that goal. Running backs doing a complete 180 by completely switching up their stance and asking for large and ridiculous amounts of money after a down season while still on a rookie contract isn't going to get much sympathy. 

     

    1. Taylor is a good RB, and now we might potentially lose him, which isn't good news. Fans are upset about that. And the relationship might not be salvageable.

     

    2. If we want to keep him, it looks like we might have to pay premium money for a non premium position, which means less money for more valuable positions. 

     

    I don't understand why you find the backlash so perplexing that no one is talking about the owners paychecks. The owners paychecks have nothing to with conversation. If owners split the money 50/50 with the owners (or even gave the players more than themselves), Taylor would still be trying to get his perceived rightful piece of the pie, whether the preceived warranted salary is 20 million or 100 million; that's why it's not about taking care of his family, it's about how much money he thinks he deserves, whether that be pride, the love of money, or principle – why he wants the money is irrelevant though. 

     

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    Jonathan Taylor comments on his contract/Request trade (Merge)

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    15 minutes ago, Colt.45 said:

     

    Every time a player asks for more $, this argument gets recycled.

     

    The players deserve every cent they earn. You think it's too much because you compare them to you. They're not you. You can't play football. They're at the top of the food chain, it's not a good argument.

    The language might seem off when they say they need to feed their families while they drive supercars and live great lifestyles but they're the ones entertaining you, not the other way around. Those are facts. There's a reason players stay away from commenting about others money. They deserve the money. The bigger question is whether the owners of these teams should have as much money as they do, the billionaires who're not exactly supermen like these athletes are. They're smart enough to keep their mouths shut but the money the owners have makes these players look as broke as many of us are.

     

    Until the society can value water more highly than it values diamonds, we need to accept that these are the standards we have agreed on, directly or otherwise. 

    No one is saying they don't deserves millions, clearly the NFL brings in that type of money. What people are saying is that one doesn't need 20 million as opposed to 5 million to take care of their family. 

     

    Also, fans want to win! JT making 16-20 million doesn't exactly put the Colts in a better position to win considering he plays RB.

     

    We understand they want more money (sometimes it is absolutely  warranted), just don't pee on us and say it's rain. 

     

    I want more money all the time when I don't necessarily need it, so I get it. 

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    Jonathan Taylor comments on his contract/Request trade (Merge)

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    6 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

    I believe that's part of the reason the team isn't really talking to him. From what it sounds like this has been going on for months leading up to training camp between the team and his agent. The agent is demanding that money and the team isn't budging and is essentially saying "prove to us you deserve it this season if you want it". 

    Which is an absolutely reasonable stance taken by the Colts. I think it's pretty ridiculous to ask for a raise after a season of not producing. He was not an all pro last year. Some act like the 2022 season didn't exist. 

     

    This team and it's players these days make it hard be a fan of them. They don't win very much anymore and they pull shenanigans like this, talk politics or go on Twitter berating fans. Quite tired of it. 

     

    I can not trust JT's goodie-good act anymore, which is apparently exactly that, an act. 

     

    Also to all the people talking about JT being the Colts best offensive player, if that is true, you got serious problems on offense if your running back is your best player. I think a high priced running back should be a luxury. 

     

    Also, some people are exclusively blaming the agent for this whole ordeal as if he just forced himself to represent JT without JT's consent. JT hired this man on his volition. 

     

    I think I'm indifferent to what happens with JT, but eagerly waiting to see how it unfolds. 

     

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