Tsarquise
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18 minutes ago, DougDew said:
I'm quoting an article. I'm not saying anything.
Oh, I thought the last paragraph, which doesn't contain quotes, was your input
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1 hour ago, DougDew said:
Goodness though, this is disconcerting:
Morse -- who has not examined Richardson -- pointed out the lengthy list of physical issues Richardson had battled dating back to high school. "Out of all of the quarterbacks expected to be drafted, Richardson has one of the longest injury histories," Morse wrote. "Just because a player doesn't miss a game does not mean that they are 100% healthy or did not leave the game early due to injury."
According to Morse's report, Richardson had sustained 11 injuries prior to the AC sprain he suffered Oct. 3 in the game against the Titans. They include four knee injuries, three hamstring injuries, two shoulder injuries, a concussion and an ankle injury. Richardson is 21.
At first, I thought you were saying AR was Bob Sanders lol
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5 minutes ago, Solid84 said:
I think if Irsay had any say in that he should’ve had BB fired a long time and spared us all a lot of heartache.
Yep, and then he should have hired him as soon as Dungy retired. Lol
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5 minutes ago, Solid84 said:
But why does it matter whether or not AR is the bestest pocket passer ever if he just wins?
Also it’s too early to rule him out as a passer. Waaay to early.
“But his accuracy!” - Andrew Luck’s first year in college: 56.3%. First NFL season: 54.1%. Andrew Luck had a CAREER accuracy of 60.8.
AR has played, what, 16? 17? Total games of football. How about we give him more than 3 games in the NFL before we rule him out as a passer?I wasn't ruling him out, I have only stated that: SO FAR, it doesn't look good, and there really isn't anything to suggest he is going to be a great passer. Of course it is super early and he is very young, so he could absolutely improve, and I'm a Colts fan, so I hope he is the best player of all time. I just don't quite understand how so many talk as if we have a sure thing QB.
Him playing only 16 games of football is not a good thing. It is only more reason not to trust that he is the answer; It doesn't make me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He is in the NFL; most QBs drafted high have a good amount of experience. If AR was an accomplished college QB it would be easier to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I never said he has to be the greatest passer of all time, but I know you were being facetious.
AR doesn't just win. He lost both games he started. And I don't think he was "just winning" in college either. (Could be wrong). Of course if he just wins, then it wouldn't matter, but that's not the case, cause teams that just win usually have elite passers.
Andrew Luck also had things to improve upon, one of which was his completion percentage.
But like I asked before, if you had a choice between a pocket passer and a running QB with the number 1 pick, which would you choose?
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50 minutes ago, Solid84 said:
I don’t know about nothing suggesting he can be a franchise QB.
- 7 TDs in 3 games.
- Good pocket awareness.
- He’s made big time throws.
- Great comeback against the Rams even if we didn’t win.
There’s been plenty good. It seems to me most people who don’t like AR generally want a pure pocket passer and use that as an excuse to knock AR. I get preferences and all that, but ultimately it’s about winning. Why does it matter if AR needs to run as well as pass to win?
It matters because passing is king in the NFL, period.
Elite passing separates the contenders from the pretenders.
Having an elite QB that can run would be awesome. Having a running QB (an athletic player but mediocre to poor passer) is less than ideal; these players don't usually lead their teams to the top consistently.
And, yes, I'm one of those people that want a QB that excels at passing, or a pocket passer.
It's not a coincidence that most (all?) of the past super bowl winners in the last 20 years have had QBs that are elite passers. I don't remember any running QBs – which, again, are QBs that produce mostly with their athleticism as opposed to their passing, which is usually mediocre to poor) winning the super bowl.
As a passer, Richardson didn't have very great stats, and he has proven to be quite fragile so far, which erases his efficacy as a runner. And if his injuries are not just simply bad luck, his fragility erases the advantage of his athleticism.
If you had a choice, would you choose a running QB or a pocket passer?
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15 minutes ago, colts89 said:
It's just you in the Twilight Zone if you think the Colts are going into the off-season looking for a QB. Being concerned about his longevity due to the two injuries he had that made him miss time is one thing, but acting like he wasn't having a promising start this year showing a bunch of franchise QB talent as a 21 yr old rookie is something else.
If they find themselves in a position to get a top QB prospect, they should absolutely pull the trigger.
The sample size was way too small to judge Anthony Richardson one way or the other, and due to his lack of experience in college, he should be given very little benefit of the doubt. As of right now, he is a huge question mark.
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1 minute ago, Superman said:
I think an outstanding QB prospect could be worth three first round picks. I really liked Stroud, but I didn't see him as the type of player that would be worth that kind of investment, especially since next year's QB class looks even better. If he keeps living up to the current hype, I'd say in hindsight that he'd be worth the extra picks.
Makes sense. I think it would have been worth it even without hindsight due to the Colts rarely drafting that high, and him clearly being the best passer in the draft.
Next year's QB class is kind of irrelevant due to the Colts unlikely picking high enough, and they still only got the number 4 pick last year after working really hard to get it (bad QB play, rookie O coordinator, Coach fired). This draft was also a bit unique because the Bears – with the number 1 pick – were still committed to Fields, so they were willing to trade. Usually the team with a high pick doesn't have a QB, so there is no guarantee that the team with a high pick would be willing to trade their chances at a QB.
It's amazing how after one draft the Texans looks to be able to compete with anyone. High QB play is worth a lot.
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25 minutes ago, Superman said:
I thought Stroud was QB1 in this year's draft, but I didn't want to trade up for him, either. Especially not for the price the Panthers paid -- essentially three first round picks. So realistically, he wasn't an option for the Colts.
I also don't know that the Panthers and Texans (and Colts) didn't like Levis enough to draft him in the first round. I think they just liked the guys they drafted better, which is reasonable.
You don't think 3 first round picks is worth a franchise QB?
*Double post*
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17 minutes ago, Superman said:
I thought Stroud was QB1 in this year's draft, but I didn't want to trade up for him, either. Especially not for the price the Panthers paid -- essentially three first round picks. So realistically, he wasn't an option for the Colts.
I also don't know that the Panthers and Texans (and Colts) didn't like Levis enough to draft him in the first round. I think they just liked the guys they drafted better, which is reasonable.
You don't think 3 first round picks is worth a franchise QB?
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24 minutes ago, DougDew said:
Too late. You tried to say that people who thought he had a great game we’re making stuff up
Why do you label people who thought he played well in two games as “Levis Lovers” if it’s not to exaggerate what that say and who they are…….. to then argue it
AR. The legend. Its will grow every week he doesn’t play.
I don't understand how people are so convinced that AR is the next franchise QB of the Colts; nothing suggests it.
It feels like I'm in the Twilight zone.
If he didn't run really fast he would be irrelevant. Him being a running QB makes it all the more vexxing to me how so many of our fellow Colts fans – who spent over a decade watching pocket passing Manning annihilate the league
– have bought in to AR being the next franchise guy. Some were even licking their chops at the prospects of a running QB. How? I have no clue. He even goes out and gets injured multiple times in a short time span, which is one of the biggest fears of having a running QB.
I hope he turns out to be great, but there is nothing to suggest he will, and it would probably be wise to go in to the off-season as if we don't have a QB.
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CJ Stroud is legit. Im watching the Houston and Cincinnati game, and it's a pleasure watching him play.
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I wonder how he passes away.
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On 11/8/2023 at 11:03 AM, tweezy32 said:
Ive witnessed multiple games in there careers where they were game changers. Taylor-Pats game, Bills game etc. Pittman How many big time catches has he had to put us in scoring positions? So many times ive seen him Moss someone. He can be a game changer in ways you don't consider game changing but yes he has been a game changer in multiple games.
I guess it all depends on how you define game changing.
If a player ever makes a big play they're game changing? How often have they done this?
I don't think either makes big time plays consistently enough to be considered a game changer. Especially not Pitman.
Taylor is too dependent on the Oline to be considered a true game changer, imo. But I do think he is closer to this than Pittman.
Pittman is way too inconsistent in his play in general to be considered a game changer.
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2 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:
i have been one of the peoples that have been wanting a true game changer at WR, but i have realized our defense is trash. We have to get a game changer at DE 1st before anything. If our offense can score over 20 points a game this year, the offense is not the issue at the moment. biggest needs is defense for sure right now and thats DE and secondary. Now if there isnt a game changing DE where we will be drafting the go ahead and draft the next best available player at defense. Our defense needs another Leonard (before he got hurt). We need a game changer on defense more then a game changer on offense. We already have Taylor and Pittman. Will also have Richardson coming back to help create things. Right now all we have is Buckner on defense, and he gets double teamed every time. We can get a game changer at Wr, but at that point it will just be shootouts every game and we still lose because our defense is so bad and cant make stops.
Pitman and Taylor are not game changers.
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9 hours ago, Hawkeyecolt said:
If Leonard was upset because he was told that he’s not making enough impact plays. Who do you think told him that? Coaches will and should protect them to the media.
Absolutely, and what's funny is Leonard aired the dirty laundry himself when telling the world the coaches are not pleased with him. Just silly.
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8 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Manning only had 1 INT in that SB - at the end. You lost me?
8 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:Manning threw for 333 Yards, 1 TD, 1 INT in SB 44. His INT at the end stings but he had nothing on Earl's SB 3.
I miss these days so much, I have barely had any interests in the games this season; I watch them very passively.
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This is interesting. Hope he does well. I am eager to see the results.
I almost kind of miss Wentz after what has transpired since his departure. It is getting hard to be a Colts fan.
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2 hours ago, jvan1973 said:
Sure thing.
Sarcasm can be good for coping.
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3 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
The Panthers did trade up and passed. The Texans were never trading out of 2
They should have traded with the Bears. Whatever it took.
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50 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
See, now that is what I call a great game by a QB. Stroud, 470 Yards/5 TD's/0 INTs/Game winning drive!
Super jealous. Colts should have traded up to get him.
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13 hours ago, jvan1973 said:
This will be an unpopular take. The Colts have a terrible fan base. A bunch of entitled punks hanging onto the Manning dominance and the transfer to Luck. Very few true fans. The hold over Baltimore fans are the real heros. I'm not even one of them, but those folks know true adversity as a fan. Indy fans have been spoiled.
They're a horrible fan base because they love the Colts most dominant era (Manning era)?
There has been nothing to hang on to since those eras.
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20 hours ago, Nickster said:
He has "something". He does appear to be unflustered. But he is also a strikiningly inaccurate passer.
IMO, there is now way this kid is the answer if he isn't taking 120-170 carries a year like Hurts, Jackson, and Allen (though Allen might be evolving away from so many carries). So the injury situation so far for that type of load is inauspicious to say the least.
He quite frankly looked just like he did on film from Florida. Talented, but inaccurate. Exciting, but not all that productive.
I am not of the opinion that he is destined to be a bust. He appears to be at the least a low tier NFL starting QB. Whether or not he pans out into a star that the org so desperately needs, is far from clear IMO.
I doubt a 45 QBR player has ever gotten this amount of positive report though.
I wonder what people would think about him if he was a late round pick.
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36 minutes ago, Nickster said:
is it the inverse lol? My bad
Lol yeah, "converse" would be since there is no confidence he is the long term answer, he hasn't done anything to prove it.
I definitely hope Richardson pans out. I did think he would look worse than he did, though.
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31 minutes ago, Nickster said:
Anthony Richardson has done nothing on the field of play that should instill great confidence that he is the Colts' long term answer at QB.
The converse is also true.Anthony Richardson was not a particularly effective QB when he was playing for the Colts this season.
Truth.
And, yes, the inverse is true as well.
He is very much still a question mark.
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Colts released Shaq Leonard
in Colts Football
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Wow! Why exactly? He was playing that bad? Per request?
Being a Colts fan sucks.