Naptown Lifer
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Here's a quote for you:
"One player, whom we found credible, said that Incognito was 'a good player, but he is kind of a disease; he divides a locker room. ... (Incognito) is the kind of guy who has to be the alpha male.' "
Again no name not credible, doesn't prove incognito was anything more than that someone that divides the locker room, randy moss t.o? Lots of people in nfl have divided lockerrooms
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Ok. How about the part in the report were they repeatedly called an asian trainer by a bunch of racial slurs and threatened to beat him up because of Pearl Harbor?
By the way, the report is double spaced so it's more like 77 pages. I'm sure you can handle it.
Page and quote please, and also a quote that shows they were being serious and not making an attempt at ill advised humor that's clearly just a bad joke
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We'll since you ALL have read the 144 page report within 24 hours it should be pretty easy for someone to come up with a BUNCH of quotes from players saying Richie was wrong or a big got. Or is the reading comprehension on this site really that bad.Nah man, it's clear that the NFL has it out for Incognito and this entire report is fabricated to make him look bad. /s
Should be pretty fresh in your head to give a quote from a named source. If I read 144 pages of something in 18 hours it'd be pretty fresh in my head.
You can keep giving these vague generality like, oh go read it yourself you don't know, or we'll mike pouncy was guilty too so no one supports him, but until I hear some kind of substance I don't have any reason to believe it sorry
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maybe you should just read it.
No maybe you guys screaming read it should actually read it.
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Apparently you didn't understand the question. It is because of what you say that it is just foolhardy to draft a franchise QB when you don't have a good defense and a good offensive line to protect him. When you do it the way the Colts did by drafting Luck with no defense and no offensive line on hand, you are probably not going to build a Super Bowl contender in this day and age. The reason is that when you get that defense and line where you want them, Luck's looming big contract makes it necessary to let some of the very best go. When you do it like San Francisco and Seattle, you have the great defense and the line when you get your franchise QB on a rookie QB. This give you several years of excellence before your QB gets the big bucks and you have to adjust. This is they way Seattle won the Super Bowl, the 49ers got there last year and they way Baltimore won it while all of these QBs were on their rookie contracts. It is the new blueprint for getting to and winning a Super Bowl. Baltimore dropped off the map when they had to pay their QB elite money.
So the colts should've passed on luck and taken kuechly by that logic? Good luck finding someone who shares that opinion.
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I don't know if Manziel
His antics...playing no show Jones at camps....too immature for me to take number one...Simple as that.
First of all I really respect your posts I can tell you have a very high football iq and know you're stuff
I think his antics are a little overblown. Majority of people have a drink I before they are 21 I don't think Manziel was guilty of anything word than that and maybe some weed or something. And being hungover at Peyton manning camp and having Archie ask him to leave lol
I think he will grow out of it like most people do, and it won't be about his antics but whether he can play in the nfl. People in the nfl have done much worse and still play.
For those saying he is being cocky in this, if you want a rookie quarterback who doesn't want to win the Super Bowl every year then more power to you.
I think I want the guy that wants to win it all every year, but I like to win. I hope the kid does great and proves the haters wrong( as long as he's not in division ha)
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What is your agenda Beauregarde
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You do know that a very large part of this report cites what other players in the locker room say, correct? This isn't some Skip Bayless writing. This is an actual investigation, and it's 144 pages long. Maybe you should check it out.
ok well since i havent read it and you have please quote players names and whether or not they though what richie did was wrong rather than just post something with no substance
you all can think that this report is objective and youre very naive, there is no way they wouldnt make richie look bad to please the fans like you calling for his head without even knowing what really happened
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so in conclusion he did in fact say it? That was not my logic at all but rather some abomination that your friend took out of what I said.
i dont think anyone on here is stupid enough to argue what someone posted when its clearly up for all to see
i know youre goal is to make me appear to be that person
the conclusion is NOT "ernnn a durrr so he did say it huh???!!1?" because that wouldnt be at all relevant to the thesis of my arguement
the conclusion = just because you say something doesnt mean you agree with it, are suggesting it, or endorse it in any way
example (so you can understand) :
racist person: "I hate jews, theyre all the same and my boss is one and i want to kill him" (NOT A PERSONAL BELIEF At all)
thought provoking person: "So by your logic we should kill them all and torture them to death like adolf, including the women and children"
person b is not suggestng at ALL that racist person is right hes pointing out the faulty logic in his statement
this is exactly what you did in different context
you: "oh so youre suggesting we kill people person b omg youre evil!'
its okay a lot of people like to do what you just did. When they lose an argument act like the whole time they were arguing something else. At first you were saying "oh so youre suggesting we trade luck for punter??" now youre saying "did he not SAY IT"
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Cam Newton's team was much worse that Indy when he came on board and it had been for a while. Yes, the other two were drafted into good situations but I don't think you should punish them because they play for teams that decided to develop a defense and an offensive line before drafting their franchise QB. They will be way ahead of Indy for years because of taking that approach. Once Indy starts having to pay Luck the big bucks, they will have more and more trouble fielding a good defense to go along with him. Luck came to a team that was only one year away from being 10-6 and being in the playoffs. I look for Houston to rebound big time this year and winning that division and going 6-0 will not be as easy as it was this year.
Yeah you realize the colts were 2-14 before ole Andrew came along? Also every single expert predicted the colts would lose the majority of games the next couple years and would take a long time to rebuild. Cam newton didn't make the playoffs until he had a top 5 defense. Luck made the playoff both years and has a playoff win that cam does not. Not to mention his obvious eye test better play stats etc but you don't watch football sp the whole common sense eye test things is pretty much out the window with you
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Huh that's weird. I have it on good authority that you did suggest that. It's not my logic, and I didn't post it,
Again another failed attempt at trying to seem smart and witty which you consistently fail at
He did not suggest that at all
He said BY YOUR LOGIc we should...
I have it by good authority that he never said that but good try though, I mean I think you really intended to sound smart but got knocked on your butt
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All you buffoons who think these Trent differ clones are better than luck (throwing the whole team game concept out the window like always when talking with colts fans) will eat crow.
Andrew luck is one of the most phenomenal qbs in the league out of everyone!
He was voted as the 2nd best piece to start a franchise with
His clutch factor is ridiculous, he rises to the occasion, he steps up in the fourth quarter, and he wins ball games.
I mean you wanna nit pick the Kansas City game? Who won us that game...god
Sometimes I wonder if the people on this site believe the garbage that comes spewing out of their mouth or are just trying to get a skip baylezs reaction outré people.
Russell Wilson can ride his way to the damn Super Bowl on his pathetic little 159 yards passing games all he wants, but that doesn't mean he can even hold a candle to my boy Andrew
I can't wait till Andrew wins the Super Bowl and craps all over these scrubs
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Yes, that is what I am saying. We will see how the people like him when the team slips a bit. He is demanding a power running team in an age of air superiority. That will all catch up with him about the time Luck gets the big bucks and he can't sign free agents any more.
Again
Fail
In paganos first year Andrew luck set the record for most rookie yards passing, when pagano was still there luck was chucking the ball 50 times a game
You know why?
Arians called the plays. Guess what Arians likes a vertical downfield passing game in his offense
The next year pagano had pep, and we ran the ball a lot
You know why?
Pep called the plays and HE likes the power running game
Things you should take away from this: pagano is the hc, oc call the offensive plays, pagano doesn't have as much of a problem as you guys make him out to be with a vertical passing game because he let Arians pass every play!
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This report is from the media. It's from a private investigator hired by the NFL.
Again ill take the players word for it. I think there would be a lot of * off people with Richie if he was that racist, it really sounds like he just had bad boundaries and a terrible sense of humor.
I don't believe for a second that if it was found incognito didn't do anything they wouldn't somehow spin this to make it look like he was at least a little wrong. He said the n word and other homophobic words. I don't think the dolphins would have decided it was worth it to keep him right or wrong because all the scrutiny and public relations issues it would've caused regardless of what happened.
If ya really want someone on our team who can't stand up for themselves and is at risk to just walk out and throw people under the bus then you all will find reasons why it would be smart to sign him and downplay his actions.
But, you can't argue that paying someone to not play will benefit this team
That is what will happen with a mentally unstable martin who has shown no reason for me to believe he will not continue using drugs during the season. Hell fail a drop and boom, money down the pisser ( re dhb)
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Oh yeah paganos 11-5records mean nothing... It's not like he took the team thru otas, training camp, preseason etcActually, it was Pagano who went one and done with Arian's team. No, it doesn't have anything to with Pagano but neither does their 11-5 record that year. I don't think Pagano will be the Colts coach for very long. One season under .500 and he will be gone.
I guess I'm willing to take a bad coach if he gets me to the playoffs every single year he's been here but you're more interested in more important team agendas like losing games and not going to the playoffs during the supposdsed rebuilding era
So you're saying paganos 11-5 record has NOTHING to do with Him..THIS year
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Other than the fact he was coach of the year with the Colts and he probably should have been with the Cardinals this year. Pagano is a very weak coach in my opinion and I think that will start to show. I think the kid had in about right in the ratings.
so what does arians being coach of the year have to do withh pagano? oh yeah, it doesnt at all.
pagano 11-5 won a playoff game
arians 11-5 one and done in playoffs
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Nothing to elaborate on. Ariens led that first team to a great record while Pagano was ill. He got the job in Phoenix and he is a far better coach that Pagano. End of story..
pagano went 11-5 without arians. arians interim coaching record has nothing to do with paganos coaching ability
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it seems like that rg3-13 forunm member has since disappeared since they had their crappy season
the last comment he made waas "yeah jon gruden is all nice about andrew luck with the camera on, but a little more realistic with it off'
how he knows what jon gruden says with the camera off is beyond me, but it goes to show that all the rg3-13 jockryders will say anything to make it seem like hes better than luck, what trash
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i'd like to dedicate this video to skip bayless, rg3, and anyone who has ever said andrew luck is anything but the future GOAT.
bleed blue
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He is on the committee the Miami owner asked to look into what happened with Martin. He did an in depth interview with Martin. He still has close ties to Indy.
Joking aside you realize evidence has surfaced that no one did anything to Martin at all, his whole team supported incognito from the beginning, and texts surfaced showing Martin and incognito were friends, martins on drugs, and he threw incognito under the bus because he didn't want to look like he was mentally incompetent to play in the nfl and made iit appear to all be Ritchie's fault
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We will see. I am betting that Dungy is going to bat for him and the Colts will try to sign or trade for him. In spite of what you say, I think Martin can play and Indy is the best team in the NFL for him to play for. But, who knows? We are all guessing. You could easily be right.
We'll I just don't think Jim harbaugh wants him on the colts because they have beef from there Stanford days, and the colts are talking to the 49ers about trading luck for harbaugh again due to copy right infringement on the captain comeback nickname.
But dungy probably will step up and call Reggie miller from his position at nbc network, and have Reggie announce on TNT that the city of Indianapolis should sign Martin due to his great play, competitive fire, and love and loyalty he would bring to his fellow teammates. Probably
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And he's ONLY 6 foot but 341 he ain't no marathon runner and a guy like that doesn't have stamina. That seems just too fat for me.When Chapman was in, he was very effective much more often than not. And how do you know he doesn't have the stamina to play half the snaps? This past year, he was second on the depth chart behind Franklin, and they don't use a NT on every play so just because Chapman may have only played 1-2 plays at a time does not reflect at all on his stamina, but rather the rotation that they like to use.
I by no means hate or want him gone. He'd make a good depth piece.
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When Chapman was in, he was very effective much more often than not. And how do you know he doesn't have the stamina to play half the snaps? This past year, he was second on the depth chart behind Franklin, and they don't use a NT on every play so just because Chapman may have only played 1-2 plays at a time does not reflect at all on his stamina, but rather the rotation that they like to use.
He had 15 tackles, 1 tfl, 0 sacks but ok
It is hard to judge 3/4 dine men by stats but still
I still don't think he was VERRY effective in the colts 26th ranked run defense
And I can't remember where I read he doesn't have the stamina but I did. I don't feel obligated to post a link to everything like some people.
If you like chapman cool, but fact of the matter is we were 26th in run defense for a team that has the "stop the run mentality"
I don't see us getting better without major changes on a very.very mediocre and if I am so inclined down right crappy dine.
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Mocking free agency and the draft are fun(I guess), but when people do it that have no clue how to go about it, its just annoying. 1st of all, do not ever mock trades, they NEVER happen and are totally and completely unrealistic. Secondly, at least have a little idea of what free agents are going to demand on the market. Mack for 6.5 mil. per yr.??? Yeah, keep dreaming! Why people keep thinking we will even entertain the idea of signing on top FA NT is beyond me. We have Chapman who is more than capable of being a good starting NT, we have Hughes who can play NT and DE and do both at a competent level. A low level backup NT is who we'll sign if we sign one at all. We may just draft a late rd. NT.
I feel that in order to run the 3/4 successful you have to have a stud nt that creates double teams and wreaks havoc. Chapman isn't terrible but saying anymore than that is being unrealistic. He's just another name around here that gets talked up for no reason like Thornton. I don't see chapman as getting it done this year at that position. Hughes is unproven. Chapman doesn't even have the stamina to play half the snaps.
Incognito / Martin: Wells report released
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Why not if incognito was this huge. Black guy bashed racist ok * harasser wouldn't ONE black guy on the team stand up and be like he was wrong. I don't think all 53 dolphins players are spineless