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Happy New Year! To your health and welfare in 2020.
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1 hour ago, Two_pound said:
I just think he is outstanding, and would add more depth. And, I know, until we get a better qb drafting any offensive skill players will seem like a silly idea.
If he is that outstanding wouldn't he be gone by our 2nd pick in the 2nd round?
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4 hours ago, luvdacolts67 said:
I know this is months late but I had to respond . You are not understanding my posts I think you should re-read them. I talked about the heart of a champion. As an example Roberto Duran after the no mas fight which in my opinion he lost because he had to lose so much weight and he was absolutely in no shape to fight Leonard as quickly as that fight happened. Duran came back because he had the mentality of a world champion took out David Moore pretty easily and went toe to toe with one of the greatest middleweights of all time and darn near won the fight. I might add in his career he beat the pants off of Leonard and held the light weight championship of the world for seven years. It’s because he has the mental fortitude that it takes to be the champion of the world. Peyton Manning coming back from a terrible injury he had the heart of a world champion and that’s what it takes. Andrew luck admitted that he wasn’t mentally capable of playing period. He has that right and I understand that. Last year when he played against the Chiefs in the playoffs he looked terrible and I started to questions that heart at that point. I’m not trying to put down Andrew luck he certainly has the talent to be a world champion but he is has admitted he doesn’t have the mentality to do it. I want a Roberto Derann or a Peyton Manning leading my team.
Well you're doing a helleva good job of doing it. Understand some people may have enough common sense and talent to not give up their well being for our entertainment. He had the hell beat out of him from 2012 to 2018 and decided there is more to life than football. You say he doesn't have the mental capacity, I say he had the mental capacity to want to live a more normal life with his new wife and child.
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On 12/29/2019 at 11:50 PM, Thunderbolt said:
You win some and you lose some. I think Ballard needs fire his scouts and hire new ones.
Another TJ Green clone....
My good God. Let's just knock every player on the team because we are real Colt fans and we know everyone's coverage on every play and know better than the coaches.
I believe it was the Texan game Hooker got roasted on here unmercifully for a TD down the right sideline that appeared to be a blown coverage by Hooker. Later in the week Desir apologized for blowing the coverage. They were in man and he played zone and let his man blow by him uncontested. Hooker got blamed big time.
Hooker isn't pro bowl caliber yet but is damn good. I know I am in the minority but will stand by my contention that he is a good safety on a pass rush hungry team. Till we start putting pressure on the QB all of our secondary will continue to look bad.
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2 hours ago, Superman said:
Nobody is trading anything of value for JB.
So my question is what's your preferred approach? If you want to blow out the QB room, who's the starter next year? And is he someone you're expecting to be the starter for the next five years, or are you drafting someone?
A question I have that no one can answer at this time is how good a mentor would JB be to a rookie QB that was drafted to eventually put JB on the unemployment line. Could this be a large locker room distraction? JB has had somewhat of an ornery attitude with reporters who have questioned his play on the field. Do we go with the flow or we blow up the QB room?
I am dreaming but suggested before that we trade JB straight for Eli and let Eli mentor him. Giants get a good backup for less money than Eli but I am afraid Eli will hang it up after this year.
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3 minutes ago, Archer said:
I don’t think it’s over. We can’t draft a top QB without making a big move in the draft, and only Burrow is worth that move IMO. Not gonna happen. Not bullish on Love or Eason, so I see a mid-round QB and a continuation of the Brissett project, with a side contest between Kelly and the draftee (and Hoyer, I suppose).
Sorry but can not agree that Burrow is the only top QB in the draft. Not saying there are a number of 'can't miss' guys out there. Even Burrow is not a sure thing but should not prevent a team from trying. Love and Eason , even though far from a guarantee would at least put some excitement back in watching the Colts. Regardless, should be a interesting next months.
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35 minutes ago, Superman said:
It's not an endorsement of Brissett. The point is that I don't necessarily think we're doomed to 7-9 next season if Brissett starts. But more importantly, if we have the next guy on the roster, then there's no need to nuke the QB room. This isn't like 2011, and JB is still a good backup and can play a role on a team with a rookie QB.
As for the injuries and the circumstances, again, not defending JB's play. I've been very critical of his play, and I don't think there's room for him to hide behind the circumstances. I'm saying that, even with his play, we could have finished with a better record if a couple things break differently, so it's not like the team is entirely hopeless if JB remains the starter in 2020.
I absolutely agree that JB is not the guy, and we need to get better at QB. I've been co-piloting that plane all season long.
After rereading your post I responded to I do feel we are on the same page. I am discouraged to even think JB may be our starter next year but certainly would not be the end of the world. Watching our offense perform this year was gut wrenching and don't want to see another year of the same. Understand you were co-piloting the plane all year and maybe that is why I was surprised by your post but understand it better.
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15 minutes ago, Imgrandojji said:
Sell the play action, run a little, scramble and execute some deep passes while on the move. We're geared up and schemed up for a pocket passing mid range QB but Brissett is a generalist who's better as a read option QB.
Pocket passing has never been Brissett's forte. He CAN pass but that's never been his forte, Brissett's usually better off when he can use his wits and his powerful arm, sell the play action and snap off a few deep throws to an area... unfortunately the only gut we had on the roster that could allow Brissett to do what he did best was TY and he wasn't always on the field.
The short to medium passes that Reich was insisting on just aren't where Brissett lives. It's the area he's struggled with the most traditionally meaning the Colts were literally playing right into Brissett's weakest area. But Reich was forced to insist on them because our WR unit got decimated and we had to do what we could with the talent we had.
f we can get our deep unit back in line, Brissett's ability to sell the play action -- which he's actuIally very, very good at -- will allow us to scheme guys open deep and allow JB to put some throws into areas where only his guys can go get them. That's his game. He's pretty solid at that.
This dunk and dunk stuff, mid yardage accuracy and timing plays, that's something Brissett isn't good at and probably never will be. Although if he can get some experience and confidence based on other facets of his game I would expect him to find a way to figure this stuff out to a certain degree and at least not be one of the worst starting QB in the league at it.
Direct copy and paste from his predraft scouting report. Sound familiar? No long ball promise.
Weaknesses
Downward trajectory from over-the-top delivery causes some throws to sink. Has been severely pressured over last two seasons and developed bad habits because of it. Will drop eyes when he feels pressure and throws off his back foot as tools of survival. Occasionally muscles a backfoot throw despite having time to step and drive the ball. Still learning to calm feet and deliver rather than bail when defender is closing in. Carries ball low and away from body when scrambling. Has moments where he is oblivious to pre-snap tells that blitz is coming off the edge. Needs to transition from always trying to fight through sacks to getting rid of the ball more quickly. Struggles with deep ball accuracy completing just 23.1 percent on attempts of 21-plus yards. Had several overthrows when tasked with deep throws down sideline versus man coverage. Failed to recognize receivers running wide open down the seam. Gets locked in on a pre-snap plan and has issues altering his itinerary quickly.
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7 hours ago, Superman said:
It's not. JMO.
I'm not making excuses for JB's play, and you know I think we need to improve. But it is still a fact, based in our present reality, that the WR room got decimated by injury, then JB got hurt (which probably directly cost us two games), then he played his way back to reasonable health but wasn't as effective anymore, and TY was out, and the staff had built a roster around Luck and not JB, and they were shellshocked by the retirement as well. Oh, and AV did cost us games. Also, Reich went through a weird stretch where his second down play calling was pretty awful.
None of this excuses JB's play, and I'm not being sensational about it. But even with JB as the starter, we reasonably could have gone 11-5 this year.
So my preferred approach is draft the next guy, let him compete with JB and whoever wins the job is the starter, but if it's JB, make sure we have a solid receiving corps around him, figure out what to do on second down, throw some screens in neutral situations, keep working on the defense, and see what happens in 2020. I think there's a reasonable floor with JB as the starter, and a potentially acceptable ceiling. But either way, proceed in 2020 with the goal of getting the next guy ready to be the starter asap, while putting a good team around whoever the starter is.
Again, JMO, but I wouldn't just scrap the QB room. That's an overreaction, to me.
Super, I agree with you 99% of the time but not in your corner here. JB has proven throughout his college and pro career that he is average at best. I am totally in favor of drafting a QB and gambling on him being the answer. I am 100% convinced that JB is not the answer and just a year ago I thought we could get a 2nd for him though you I believe disputed that and you were correct I hindsight.
I feel injuries are way overblown. All teams deal with that and in JBs case he never missed a snap in practice all year and was day to day prior to the Miami game and took every practice snap leading up to that game. Unfortunately I think Ebron's injury was between his ears as he wanted out of this JB fiasco before he was considered part of the problem. 100% disagree with his actions as I think they were chicken waste but so be it.
My feeling is the sooner we move beyond JB the better off we are. We may miss a time or two but we must move on and take our chances.
Many will disagree with me. Bring it on.
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8 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:
Honestly I think this is a bad year to be looking for a QB. The only ones I am truly sold on is Burrow and no way he doesn’t end up a Bengal. The idea of Tau interests me because If he comes out he will be coming back from injury so he might slide and he could be paired with someone like Jacoby who can mentor him. I don’t like the idea of Jacoby being the starter but if he’s holding the job down until a rookie is ready I could live with it.
Don't quite understand the assertion by some that this is a bad year for QBs. Most all the draft reports and so called draft 'Experts' I read think it is a good to very good year for QBs. Guess time will tell but a franchise can't wait very long to finally pull the trigger on one.
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46 minutes ago, aaron11 said:
im not sure hes better i would have liked to see what he can do in a real game though. i do think he looked better than JB in pre season, thats what we have to go off of
what i think would happen is he would turn it over more but also produce more, no way to know if that would be worth it.
we ran a pretty simple offense this year too i think kelly would be caught up on that by now
Aaron, I think that the Colts want to give Kelly some time to see if he is straighten out his personal life. Would be devastating if he started to perform well and then had one of his relapses. Could you imagine the fire storm and the picks and axes coming out and going after Ballard if that happened? Can see it now from 25 posters "I told you so".
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9 hours ago, Flash7 said:
I hated when Ballard said that —still do. It was obvious to Colts fans that it WAS mostly about one player.
At the time, Ballard was some new guy who came in and said “it’s not not about one player” and we were all like, “yeah, Sure it’s not.”
Well I tend to agree with him. It really isn't about one guy if you have a complete team. I did not take it as a knock on Andrew but saying we need to improve the entire club.
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7 minutes ago, runthepost said:
That’s like saying Barkley wasn’t going to be good. A few posters were saying that
I'm confused when you throw Barkley in. I didn't say Lamb would not be good, I was questioning your assertion that because the guys you mentioned were doing well that Lamb would do well. Just because a guy is good in college does not guarantee he will be good in the oros.
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33 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
From Is no better then Jacoby. He is highly inaccurate with the deep pass. 60% of his passes have been screen passes.
Fromm was a much better college QB than Jacoby ever was. Why would you think he would be no better of a pro?
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Just now, Chloe6124 said:
Seeing the ghost have some big plays really put a smile on my face. I am so sad the season is over.
Chloe I think a much more exciting season is just beginning. Next 3 to 4 months will go a long way in determining our future which to me is very exciting.
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1 minute ago, runthepost said:
I hope we get Lamb. Looking at AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel, Terry and Metcalf all producing right away.
That is certainly no guarantee that Lamb will be good.
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1 hour ago, FRW said:
How many double digit leads have we given up in the second half? I think we were out scored 25-0 in this game after being up 20-13. That has been a theme all year. We start well, get a lead and then the defense and the Oline disappears.
Yeah. That TD on JBs fumble was all on the D. And they couldn't even stop Jacksonville on JBs second fumble from the 10 yd line.
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He was a positive today but I thought he looked slow compared to his pre-injury form.
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12 minutes ago, csmopar said:
Outside of Burrow, none of the other QBs look like an upgrade. And we are way too far down to remotely convince the bengals to give him up.
Totally disagree with the bolded. I would guess there are a minimum of 6-8 off the top of my head that have as much if not considerable more potential and wouldn't cost us anywhere close to the $21.5 M that JB will cost us.
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27 minutes ago, kornstar said:
I think they truly like him and are all in on him. I think we’ll hear about the injury a lot to justify why they will stick with him as our franchise QB.
Keep believing. Hopefully the other GMs in the league also believe so we can do what we want to do in the draft and FA.
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1 hour ago, Thorolf said:
I see a Lot of people saying things like " Brisset is not that good !" I would just like to remind those people of something-- When Peyton Manning had been our starting quarterback for less than 2 years, he was not so great either ! He set a new team record for most interceptions thrown in a year !! It takes some time to acquire enough poise, experience and confidence to become really good . I think he is doing quite well considering his time in the Driver Seat ! If JB sits another year in the Starting Quarterback position, and shows no additional improvement, perhaps it will be time to think about replacing him. But to replace him now simply puts us right back where we started, by having to break in a new quarterback from scratch again !! Sadly we seem to have gotten spoiled by having a true great like manning for so many years !! many of us need to remember what it was like before Peyton came along !! Give JB the time needed to show if he can step up !
Comparing JB to Manning is an insult to the intelligence of any knowledgable football fan. Manning was a great, great college QB and JB was meh. Manning was #1 selection in his draft and JB was a 3rd rounder at 91st and probably a favor from BB to B Parcells.
You are right it does took time for a guy like Peyton but he had tremendous talent, and also played on some horrible teams to start his career. The biggest difference in the two is JB doesn't have near the talent of Manning had to work with. There are a boat load of QBs that start slow and most don't make it but they also didn't have Manning's talent.
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All water over the dam. If the dog hadn't stopped to take a 'duke' he would have caught the rabbit.
If JB would have done his job and thrown more tds in those games we would have won them all and be undefeated. Fact is , it is what it is. Give it up.
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Just now, Chloe6124 said:
Wouldn’t it be interesting to see the colts go up against a team like LSU. For some strange reason I think they could beat us.
Not if Kelly started!
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Heard Ballard is at the Peach Bowl to pull off a blockbuster trade. Trying to trade entire Colt team for the entire LSU team.
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