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    Wr, Tight End.....who? How?

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    But guys..how 'bout those recievers and tight ends we can grab up...

    ...we need big time speed to compliment Collie and Wayne

    ..and where's our 6-foot-7 Gronk-style tight end>

    We need to sign and draft some for sure.

    We may be a little thin there in 2012.

    When Someone Leaves The Organization, Is It Easier To Evaluate Them Objectively?

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    You must have an incredibly small DVD collection.

    The AFC Championship game was "some Peyton"? OK. The greatest comeback ever in a championship game, culminating with as clutch a TD drive as anything that build the legends of Montana and Elway, and you're talking about the defense. But I suppose that Brady is "clutch" for a couple of field goal drives while playing behind the best defense in the league? Are you just mentally preparing yourself for life without him, or have you always felt this way? If the later, that's a bit out there.

    Ummm, pretty sure he didn't have a good first half. I was there, I remember it.

    The comeback wouldn't have been neccesary had we executed better in the first half.

    And Montana has four Super Bowls? Peyton 1.

    I was a HUGE Peyton fan, but I am really trying to view this from the perspective of his legacy.

    Like Jaric pointed out: 7 out of 11 one and dones. 1-1 in Super Bowls.

    Do you think Peyton is the GOAT?

    When Someone Leaves The Organization, Is It Easier To Evaluate Them Objectively?

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    Personally, I have a hard time proclaiming a QB with a sub .500 playoff record as the best quarterback ever to play.

    Now don't get me wrong, Manning still makes my best 5 of all time, but I can't put him in the top slot of a guy like Montana. Remember, if the defense doesn't decide to play out of it's mind in the 2006 playoffs, Manning is still the new Dan Marino and we likely go one and done in 2006.

    Agreed, the D was on fire and Peyton doesn't win, otherwise.

    When Someone Leaves The Organization, Is It Easier To Evaluate Them Objectively?

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    First of all, I wouldn't assume Denver has a better supporting cast. The Colts have slipped recently, but I'm sure that the Colts roster for many years was a lot better than the Broncos roster is now. Those who think that Peyton was the entire team are deluding themselves. I'm thrilled that he chose the Broncos, but he has his work cut out for him.

    Second, I have DVDs of quite a number of utterly stunning clutch performances by Peyton. You're comments sound like the national media perception of him in 2005. Not fair at all.

    But I do agree that the possibility of a strong running game is the best thing for him. If he can develop their wide receivers and they bring in a good tight end (and hopefully a deep threat) that offense could be something special.

    And I have DVDs of some let downs. The fact is that our D really got us through the playoffs in 2006. The Chiefs didn't get a first down until the 2nd half. We had a battle of FG's with the Ravens. And the AFCCG was some D and some Peyton...in the 2nd half.

    When Someone Leaves The Organization, Is It Easier To Evaluate Them Objectively?

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    I would normally say yes, but after a decade of arguing Manning is better than Brady, I still think Colt fans are way too entrenched in the idea that Manning is the best ever to play that I don't see many people changing arguments now that he's a Bronco even if evidence dictates that he is not.

    and

    I did FIRMLY believe that Manning was better than Brady.

    Until the last couple of years.

    How much of it supporting cast? I don't know. And history will probably fail to even mention that.

    Super Bowls:

    Brady 3-2

    Manning 1-1

    THAT is what history will remember.

    When Someone Leaves The Organization, Is It Easier To Evaluate Them Objectively?

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    Wow, a thoughtful thread.

    I am really inteersted to see if Peyton wins with a supporting cast like in Denver. But Peyton will have to play better in some circumstances.

    Random thoughts:

    He still threw a pick to ice the SB.

    Can he ice the Chargers PO game by NOT having an empty backfield on 3rd and short?

    Peyton needs to fine tune that "clutch" thing, I guess. A running game and a D can help that. Maybe he doesn't have to throw so much to win a SB. His legacy depends on what he does with a new team. If they can run the ball well (like we did early- mid 2000's) he will look great again.
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