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  1. 45 minutes ago, chad72 said:

    Do you think Ballard would have given up next year's first rounder for a top 5 player in the draft after picking in the Top 5? Look at the gamble the Texans took and now the Cardinals have their pick No. 27, a far cry from where Will Anderson was picked.

     

    No risk it, no biscuit.

     

    And then you have the Carolina Panthers...

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  2. On 12/16/2023 at 3:39 PM, NewColtsFan said:


    Read the comments in this thread.   Some are suggesting he could eventually replace Grover.   

     

    Do you misread or misunderstand a post?  I just checked all posts in this thread and didn't notice any that suggested Grover should be replaced by Tart.  One suggested he might be an alternative if Grover decides to sign elsewhere (at least that's how I took it).

  3. 1 hour ago, w87r said:

    Weekly grades are premium(paid) content. Appreciate the work, but we can't post this. PFF charges $120 a year for their premium content and you are giving it away by posting it here.

     

    FYI, I was offered a 40% off annual subscription before draft time this year.  I think the full annual subscription price is $80.  Probably $120 if you go monthly for the entire year (unless there is another more premium tier that I'm unaware of).

     

    I subscribed and was charged $48 for the yearly subscription (April 2023 - April 2024).  Just FYI for those who might be interested.

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  4. 1 hour ago, krunk said:

    Why would Ballard say that the relationship with Taylor is "Repairable" if Taylor is the one telling the lies? If the Colts have played things by the books then what would there be to repair?

     

    I took this to mean the Colts are leaving a path for Taylor to save face (a little) and return without having to admit he was lying all along.  They've acknowledged the on-going pain with ankle and that he won't play until Taylor feels it's safe to return.  They might still believe he's lying, but are leaving a path for him to return after sitting out by claiming the ankle is now good enough when he returns.  This is an olive branch being offered by the team.  Just my opinion.

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  5. 2 hours ago, Indyfan4life said:

    You do realize in the first half our receivers dropped at least eight passes. That KILLED his stat line and yards. 
     

    Eight dropped passes will look bad on ANY QB. 

     

    Dropped at least eight passes?  I didn't recall anything close to that.  So, I went back and rewatched every Richardson play.  I see one drop by Downs.

     

    Don't get me wrong.  I think Richardson has looked very promising so far.  I was very impressed with his performance these first two pre-season games.  Having watched the other 3 top rookie QBs this pre-season, I think he's looked as promising as any of them so far (actually even better than all that I've seen in limited pre-season action).

     

    Which drive/plays do you consider drops?  I see one; Drive-5/Play-3.  Here's a breakdown of what I saw in his drives this game.  I've seen several posts about drops wand would be curious to know which of plays any other posters consider drops.

     

    Drive 1:

    • Play 1: Overthrown deep ball (Pierce/defender collided, no call)
    • Play 2: Overthrown ball over the middle to Pittman.

     

    Drive 2:

    • Play 1: Completion to Pittman over the middle. Very nice pass.
    • Play 2: Scramble.  Run 7 yards.
    • Play 3: Completion to Ogletree over the middle. Very nice pass.

     

    Drive 3:

    • Play 1: Designed run by Richardson for 15 yards.
    • Play 2: Incompletion, but defensive illegal contact. Pierce makes adjustment and nearly makes nice catch of off target (or back shoulder?) throw.
    • Play 3: Completion. Scrambles, throws low dart 9 yards downfield to Granson. Nice pocket presence by Richardson. Nice catch by Granson. 
    • Play 6: Short pass over the middle to Pittman. Turnover worthy throw.  Dropped interception.
    • Play 8: Short completion to Pittman over the middle.  Pittman makes a nice catch of pass thrown slightly behind him (stopping his YAC momentum and leaves game limping).
    • Play 9: Incomplete over the middle to goal line. Overthrown into tight coverage.  Play nullified by defensive illegal contact.

     

    Drive 4:

    • Play 1: Quick pressure, steps up into more pressure. Jumps while being hit and throws ball away (or overthrows) the checkdown RB.
    • Play 2: Scrambles left, short hard throw back against body to Downs.  Ball is well behind Downs but he manages to whirl and get a hand on it. Not a drop.
    • Play 3: Drop back, pumps, scrambles left. gains 12 yards and picks up first down.  Nice run for a first down.
    • Play 4: Looks off first couple downfield reads and make nice throw to RB in the flat for a completion.
    • Play 5: Nice intermediate depth throw toward the sideline. Thrown over defenders.  Nice throw.  Very nice catch by Granson.
    • Play 6: Designed run option.  Richardson keeper for no gain.
    • Play 7: Shotgun, drop back, scramble, defenders hitting legs.. able to dump ball downfield while going down.  Granson coming back toward Richardson nearly pulls in a low ball behind him. Originally ruled 1st down but overruled.  Very nice attempt by Granson, but ball touched ground as he was reaching back and going to the ground to craddle the ball.
    • Play 8: Shotgun, drop back, immediate pressure up the middle.  GREAT escape by Richardson, scrambles right for 5 yards.

     

    Drive 5:

    • Play 1: Richard fumbles without pressure while throwing.  Ball slips from his hand during the throw.  Very nice recovery by Pittman.
    • Play 2: Shotgun, drop, no pressure, short middle throw to RB.  High throw. RB leaps, full extension, ball goes through hands as he's being hit. Throw off target and kills YAC momentum. Stretch to call this a drop. This incompletion mostly on Richardson. Should have been a completion for a first down with an on target throw of short pass.
    • Play 3: Shotgun, drop, nice pocket, nice movement forward in the pocket. Richardson delivers a beautiful rope between defenders and hits Down in stride and in the hands (just slightly high but very catchable). Defender was pulling on Downs shirt as he was separating. Downs leaves his feet and extends slightly; fastball goes through his hands.  DROP. Should have been first down, but fourth down instead. A shame because this was a nice pass.

     

    Drive 6:

    • Play 1: Overthrows well covered Pittman deep down the right sideline.
    • Play 2: Shotgun, drop, no pressure, intermediate throw down the right seam to Pierce. Defender draped on Pierce appears to deflect ball. Unclear if defender gets a hand on it.  Throw is slightly behind Pierce causing him to slow and turn back into defender causing contact and defender to have play on the ball.  No other angle shown on this so hard to tell the ball placement.
    • Play 3: Shotgun, drop, time to throw, slight pressure, arm may have been slapped as Richardson throws.  Ball out of reach of Pierce running hook toward left sideline.
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  6. 37 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:

    I hate to disagree with a fellow Colts fan, but I have not seen that quoted by front office   

     

     

     

    Irsay said it during the draft day press conference.  He said if AR was taken at 3 they would have taken Levis or traded down.  Then, he immediately followed that up by saying they would have probably taken Will Levis at 4.

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  7. 2 minutes ago, CR91 said:

     

    Why didn't the Commanders take him then? All they have at QB are Sam Howell and Jacoby Brissett. Not exactly locks to start.

     

    I would guess because they like what they have in Sam Howell and want to develop him. Washington passing in the 1st round doesn't support that conclusion that Levis is viewed as no more than a backup QB by the NFL as a whole.

  8. 5 hours ago, PRnum1 said:

    Levis is nothing more than a backup at this point.

     

    33 other teams passed on levis. 

     

    Why would you draft a backup at #4 overall ?

     

    This is a very weak conclusion.

     

    #1 Of course the 20+ teams with established QBs aren't going to take him in the 1st round.  That doesn't mean he's only backup quality.

     

    #2 There were 3 teams looking to take a new starting QB in this draft.  Levis just happened to be QB4. That doesn't mean he's a backup quality.

     

    #3 Of the remaining teams that have aging or unproven QBs that might have considered him as an near term replacement (Minn, Tenn, Sea, Atl, Det, Rams, Wash)... Well, Tenn did try to trade back up into the 1st round for him and eventually took him at #33.  You think they picked him at #33 to be a career backup?

     

    #4 Rams didn't have their first pick until #36.. and Tenn jumped them and Lions.

     

    Slides that that can happen to QBs in the first round because there are so few available landing spots for new starting QBs. That doesn't mean they are backup quality.  Aaron Rodgers had a similar slide.. guess he should be considered a career backup, eh?

     

     

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  9. 1 minute ago, Smoke317 said:

    But why on 3rd down?  You’re in the red zone. Take another shot at the 6. What’s 5 more seconds off the clock at that point?

     

    Yeah, timeout too.   Even if Murray scrambled and came up short they could have stopped the clock and kicked the FG on 4th.. but a much better chance at the TD there than after the onside kick.

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  10. The Raiders would have absolutely no leverage what so ever in trade negotiations if they sign Brady or are known to be aggressively pursuing him.

     

    The only thing that would drive the trade price up would be multiple teams bidding for Carr.   If only one team is negotiating the trade I would expect it to be for a mid-level pick, such as a 4th or 5th rounder because Raiders would have to trade him no matter what's being offered.  If two or more teams are involved then I could see the trade value rising to a second rounder or maybe two 3rd round picks (2020 and 2021) instead of a 2020 2nd rounder.

     

  11. 13 hours ago, EastStreet said:

     

    1) The average of their draft position is 56th, which would be late second round.

    2) Only 4 of 11 were taken top 10. 1 of those benched, and only one made the playoffs

    3) 5 of the 11, were taken after the 1st round... 

     

    9. D Carr / R1-1 / Missed Playoffs

    Note - he was the assumed #1, and went #1

     

     

    You are confusing Derek Carr with David Carr's draft position here.  Might want to update your stats.

  12. 1 minute ago, EastStreet said:

    He had some very pretty passes vs Bama. I still remember watching both of those game. Both Ws vs Bama I was like WTH is going on.

     

    Yes (some shown in Swag3), but the passes against Fresno State (Swag2) are even better.

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  13. Some have stated..

     

    Why are people so intrigued by Chad Kelley? 

    The absolutely jaw-dropping elite quick release, accuracy, and velocity that he showed in those pre-season games.  If you didn't see them go check them out, it was very impressive.

     

    But it was only against 4th string talent.. lol

    I don't care how it was demonstrated.  The jaw-dropping traits were evident. People can get intrigued by demonstrating this kind of ability at a pro-day workout where there is no competition at all.  So as far as demonstrating jaw-dropping traits, the argument that it was against non-first string talent is moot.

     

    But let's talk a little about the level of competition in which he succeeded in pre-season.  Games 1 and 2 he played the 4th quarter against lesser talent.. BUT, he was also playing with 3rd/4th string talent on his side too (OL/WR/TE).

     

    He started pre-season games 3 and 4 as they decided to hold JB out of the rest of preseason.  So he at least faced the other teams starters for those games, not the 3rd or 4th string.  He was successful in every pre-season game.

     

    He's a risk that you can't allow to be the face of a franchise.

    Agreed, he's a risk.  I might be naive, but I believe anybody in his situation would understand this is his last change, be completely humbled, and put 100% focus into his career while he still has a chance.  

     

    How incredibly lucky was it for Chad that Luck retired?  He had no chance of playing and then, all of the sudden, he might be the most talented QB on the team.  He just needs to get his head straight.  He's reaching that magical age of 25 where males are finally starting to fully mature. Is he on the right track.. only the team really knows.. I sure hope so.

     

    But he was not claimed off the practice squad by another team when exposed

    This surprised me.  I thought he would be claimed.  This is the one thing that gives me pause. But the fact that they kept on on the roster at the end of the season shows the team didn't want to risk it again.

     

     

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  14. If four QBs and three OTs go before pick 13, that means at least one of these blue chip positional prospects will be available at 13.

     

    Chase Young
    Isaiah Simmons
    Jeff Okudah
    Derrick Brown
    CeeDee Lamb
    Jerry Jeudy

     

    Pick #13 looks like the spot where the blue chip positional talent and top-4 QBs will still be guaranteed available.  It would be hard not to take one of these 6 or one of top three OTs at this point.

     

    When this pick on on the clock I bet there will be a lot of interest from teams wanting to move up, and Colts would have leverage to demand a bit more than the trade charts typical would indicate because they can keep the pick and get a blue chip prospect.

     

  15. Regarding watching preseason games outside local market..

     

    I'm not in the local market, but I watch preseason games live via nfl.gamepass ($99 / year).  For regular season games, gamepass gives you the live local radio broadcast during the game, then you can watch the video broadcast right after the game ends.

     

    My game day routine is to listen to the live radio broadcast (with gamepass) and follow the live game cast on either espn or nfl.com.  Then once the game is over I can watch the video broadcast of the game on gamepass (commercial breaks and halftime are removed from this feed). 

     

  16. 16 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

    The right QB can win you a lot of games while your fixing the rest of the roster. A DT is not going to do that.

     

    That's kind of obvious. Luck is an example of that.  It's also true that the wrong QB can lose you a lot of games while wasting an improved roster.

     

    And if you spend significant draft capital to draft that QB, then you are going to give them additional years to prove themselves before you're able to pull the plug on a bad decision (QB purgatory). Meanwhile, with the lost draft capital, you may have missed out on top-tier talent in a couple other key positions. 

     

    The question is, do any of the QBs available in THIS draft look like long term solutions worthy of #13 or even a trade up?  Some think there are and others don't.    I think this is the root of most disagreements about this draft.

     

    The fact that there may be much more top-tier QB talent (and even generational talent) in the 2021 draft is something to keep in mind.  If the Colts start 2020 the way they ended 2019, there's a good chance they will be a contender for that top talent in 2021.  I wouldn't want to trade any of the 2021 picks to move up this year.

     

  17. 5 hours ago, stitches said:

    IMO it's very likely that if we get a QB we will trade up to get him. If we don't, we are likely not going to get a QB in this draft. 

     

     

    IMO you would only want to do this if you're targeting a top-tier QB.  I only see one healthy top-tier QB in the 2020 draft and he's going #1, and it's very unlikely any team could get the Bengals to trade that pick.  Tua is a top-tier QB with serious injury risks, but a team might have to trade into the top 10 to get him.

     

    Other than those two, I only see a group of second tier QBs (like Haskins and Lock last year).  Of course, that's just my novice opinion and experts will certainly have better opinions whether some of this remaining group are deserving of top-tier grades.

     

    That's not to say teams don't reach and trade up for second tier QBs.. they do.  But it often results in a significant multi-year setback (QB purgatory plus lost draft capital) when they're wrong.

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  18. After week 17

    Hope this thread was useful.

     

    Observations

    - DEN and NYJ might be competing to trade up for the third QB

    - CLE and TB might want to trade up for Barkley

    - With a little luck we could swing a trade from 3->4 (Barkley) then 4->5 (3rd QB)

    - If three QBs and Barkley go in top 4 we still have our choice of top player at any other position at 5

     

    Teams 0-16
    #1 CLE  0.5195  133
                
    Teams 3-13
    #2 NYG  0.5313  136
                
    Teams 4-12
    #3 IND  0.4805  123
    #4 HOU  0.5156  132
                
    Teams 5-11
    #5 DEN  0.4922  126
    #6 NYJ  0.5195  133
    #7 TB   0.5547  142
    #8 CHI  0.5586  143
                
    Teams 6-10
    #9 OAK  0.5117  131
    #10 SF  0.5117  131
    #11 MIA 0.5439  139
                
    Teams 7-9
    #12 CIN 0.4648  119
    #13 GB  0.5391  138
    #14 WSH 0.5391  138
                
    Teams 8-8
    #15 ARI 0.4883  125
                
    Teams 9-7
    #16 BAL 0.4414  113
    #17 LAC 0.4570  117
    #18 SEA 0.4922  126
    #19 DAL 0.4961  127
    #20 DET 0.4961  127

  19. After week 16 (before Monday games)

     

    Not much drama left.  Browns picking #1.  Colts/Giants are picking #3 or #2.  I've projected PHI and PIT wins on Monday for these stats, but they really don't impact much at this point (except potentially moving HOU to the 5 win group).

     

    Observations

    - It would be really good to get that #2 pick.  I think we could get something from NYG to move #3->#2.

    - Would be good if QB needy teams don't get drop too far down.  I'm thinking DEN or NYJ as a prime trading partner.

    - Trading partners for Barkley?  Maybe CLE (#4), TB (#5), or SF (#7).

    - Would like to see TB join the 5 win teams and potentially move DEN/NYJ higher.

    - Would like to see SF improve SoS and move behind NYJ.


    Teams 0-15
    #1 CLE   0.5167   124  (@PIT)
                
    Teams 2-13
    #2 NYG   0.5333   128  (WSH)
                
    Teams 3-12
    #3 IND   0.4833   116  (HOU)
                
    Teams 4-11
    #4 HOU   0.5083   122  (@IND)
    #5 TB       0.5583  134  (NO)
                
    Teams 5-10
    #6 DEN   0.4833   116  (KC)
    #7 SF      0.5208   125  (@LAR)
    #8 NYJ    0.5208   125  (@NE)
    #9 CHI     0.5583   134  (@MIN)
                
    Teams 6-9
    #10 CIN  0.4667   112
    #11 OAK  0.5083   122
    #12 MIA  0.5417   130

     

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