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  1. 30 minutes ago, Aaron86 said:

    It's not blind devotion. It's called being a fan. 

    And the point your trying to make is not proving anything. Change a few words around and you can make anything sound right.

     

    You know what fan is short for right? Are you a fan of luck or the team? A logical, non-emotional, decision would be to choose mahomes over luck if the option was available.

     

    There's no changing words or numbers, mahomes came in after and therefore, logically, he will leave the league after. Meaning we would have more chances with him. 

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  2. 1 hour ago, Aaron86 said:

    You just want to start an argument.

     

    What's the difference really with excpected or the what if sanerio. 

     

    Everybody counted luck out last I mean even the numbers said we wouldn't make it to the playoffs but look we made.

     

    No I'm proving a point that it is a valid argument and should not be dismissed based on your blind devotion to Luck.

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  3. 5 minutes ago, SanDiegoColt8 said:

    What if we trade our 2nd and 3rd to the Raiders for Antonio Brown then turn around and send AB to the Jets for Leveon Bell? 

    why not trade our 2nd and 3rd for bell then...?

     

    Also...we don't need a RB.

  4. 1 hour ago, Aaron86 said:

    Luck has more playoff experience then Mahomes. With way less help the also. 

     

    Saying Mahomes has 6 more years then luck to reach a Superbowl is a what if scenario. So yes let's work within know parameters.

    The "what if" is if he gets injured or retires before the normal time span of a QB.

     

    First round draft picks and pro-bowl QB's (of which they both are) average 9-12 years playing time. Mahomes just got into the league while Luck has been in since 2012. Looking at the average expectation of a professional QB, we can confidently assume that Luck will finish his career in 5 years (12 seasons) with 8 years at best if he plays to 15 seasons.  Meanwhile, Mahomes (with all things being equal) will finish his career 11-14 years under the same assumptions of average play time and max of 15 seasons.  This means Mahomes has 6 years more expected playing time than Luck.

     

    It is a bigger "what if" to believe that Luck will play longer than Mahomes, than it is to believe that Mahomes will play longer than Luck. Simply looking at the numbers, and common sense, proves this.

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  5. 1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

    Because he is not on the team at this point.

    Dang, when did that happen? Google his name and he's still listed as a Colts player. He's a free agent though and we didn't offer a contract extensions then? I thought he wanted to retire a Colt, maybe I heard wrong though. Why we would not offer a contract, he played great for us.

  6. On 3/10/2019 at 1:04 AM, Aaron86 said:

    Ballard is going to give Luck more shots at a Superbowl then Mahomes is going to get at in his entire career. I believe in Luck. And who's to say Mahomes has 6 more extra years to reach a Superbowl? I mean the injury bug can happen to anybody the team can fall apart anything can happen.

    It's just my opinion though.

    If Ballard can give luck those shots, he can give Mahomes those same ones as well. Currently Mahomes has had just as many as Luck as both have made it to the AFCCG once. 

     

    And you can't work off of what if scenarios, because you can do that for anyone. What if Luck dies tomorrow?

     

    Work within known parameters.

  7. On 3/6/2019 at 11:06 PM, Dacoltsboi said:

    Would you guys consider trading Luck to the raiders for Carr and two first round picks?

    I wouldn't take Carr, keep Brissett. It would take more than just two 1st rounders, and I would not stack the picks in a single draft.

     

    I've not made it a secret by any means that I would trade luck, but you gotta be smart about it. Two 1st and two 2nds at least, if not three 1st and a 2nd spread over two to three years.

  8. 7 hours ago, GoPats said:

     

    Then you don't read much. But don't let that stop you from being all Judge-y McJudge-rton. 

     

    If you can put a lid on the sanctimonious, holier-than-thou stuff for about a minute, and realize that we're having more of a legal discussion than a discussion about morals and values, maybe this would be worthwhile. 

     

    You're also stating options as fact. "It's not anywhere near the majority of them," you said. Really? You KNOW that? If you do, please share how, or a source, or whatever. 

     

    Did you miss this yesterday? 

     

    "But it appears Kraft was caught on camera getting services from two women who are not victims of human trafficking: the 45-year-old manager of the spa, Lei Wang, and 58-year-old spa employee Shen Mingbi, also believed to be an operator of the business — both licensed masseuses and Florida residents."

     

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/28/how-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-could-get-off-in-prostitution-case/

     

     

     

    I've said it at least twice, and I don't know how else to say it, so I'll just repeat it I guess? 

     

    If Kraft is guilty of the charges he's facing, then I've lost a lot of respect that I had for the man. I don't believe in condemning human beings for making mistakes like this one though. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't hurt anyone, he didn't steal from anyone. He took part in an illegal activity that also carries a heavy moral burden for a lot of people. This is a guy who has been very generous with a lot of charities and overall has done far more good than bad in this world.

     

    I have to wonder if you guys would even care if this was, say, the owner of the Browns, or Arthur Blank, or basically any other team! 

     

     

     

     

     

    https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/38790.htm

     

    I read enough, but don't expect it from people here. 

     

    Legally, he paid for sex and could get off on technicality

  9. 20 hours ago, GoPats said:

     

     

    You guys can't really and truly believe this. Basically you're saying that every prostitute on the planet is a trafficked sex slave. Though I can't speak from experience, I would guess that is not accurate. Seems to me that plenty of them do what they do of their own free will and accord. 

     

    That is probably the saddest and most shameful thing I have read in a long time.

     

    It is not anywhere near the majority of them. Most don't realize what they're getting into and once in, they are stuck.  Some may enter willingly, but then become trafficked. Of those that enter willingly they are almost forced due to poverty, inability to get jobs, and home life situation. Few, if any, go into it thinking it's the career they want for their lives.

  10. 15 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

    There are 58.000 children abducted a year for sexual motives right here in America.

    This problem is not privy to under developed countries.

    No ya that's totally true, but it's more prevalent in under developed countries, explicitly for human/sex trafficking, not just sexual motives which could include rape and molestation without the intent of selling them.

  11. 15 hours ago, GoPats said:

     

    You basically made my point for me here by taking "solicitation" and turning it into "human trafficking." 

     

    Also, Irsay's offense wasn't using drugs, it was operating a vehicle while he was severely impaired. 

     

    Although I am apparently "willfully ignorant" in your own words... I'm simply trying to make a point in a civil manner. No, it is not "disingenuous" to assume that Kraft did not know the status of any of the women working at this spa. In fact, it's irresponsible to assume anything. 

     

    Do you really think a guy like Kraft would risk his fortune, status, and - most importantly -- his reputation by knowingly soliciting sex slaves? I don't. 

     

     

    Nobody is happy about it, or blowing it off. It's an embarrassment to the organization. My view on Kraft is certainly forever changed. 

     

    The only thing I've taken exception to is how many people here have stretched the actual charges Kraft faces into something much worse. What if, after Irsay's arrest, someone had said, "Well he was found with almost $30K in cash, so he MUST be selling drugs to school children!" You guys would be pretty upset with something like that. 

     

    If evidence comes to light that he knew these girls were victims of human trafficking then I'll be the first to further condemn his actions. But it's not fair to take a misdemeanor and turn it into a completely reprehensible act like many have done.  

     

     

    For the love of all that is holy, NO VIDEO! OMG, lol... I concur Gramz. No one needs to see that! 

     

     

    His crime is solicitation, but all solicitation abet human trafficking. It is illegal to pay for sex for that reason.

     

    Just like buying illegal drugs abet its trafficking. 

     

    Sorry, but you just don't do it.

     

    So no rich person has ever risked their fortunes doing illegal stuff? Come on now, be the smart person you say you are and not the willfully ignorant one you're portraying. 

     

    He didn't have to be explicitly told they are sex slaves, it comes with the territory of solicitation and prostitution and even more so with Asians engaged in this.

     

    Do you have to be explicitly told as an adult that boiling water is hot? No because you know the processes behind it that cause water to boil. 

     

    He knew what he was doing is illegal, you simply have to think it through to its logical conclusion. Solicitation and prostitution is the result of human trafficking.

  12. 14 hours ago, GoPats said:

     

    This is disappointing and, on a personal level, pretty disgusting, but I think a lot of people are making a bit of a leap here insinuating that Kraft would be aware of the status of any of these women. Soliciting, versus being involved in human trafficking, are two very, very different things. Plus if you're going to apply the moral compass to Kraft how can you ignore some of the things Irsay has done? Seriously? That's the ultimate case of hypocrisy if you want to go there, but whatever.

     

    I'm not happy. I don't condone it. But let's not make this more than it really is because, itself, it's bad enough. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Are you seriously comparing drug use/addiction to prostitution and being complicit in human trafficking.

     

    You say he isn't aware of the status of these girls...? Do you know many prostitutes who are there of their own free will and can leave whenever they want? 

     

    Even though its stereotypical, the asian community is known for having woman stuck in sexual servitude, being promised transportation and a life in a new place and then having their passports taken and making them "work off" their contracts. It is prevalent with Taiwanese, Filipinos, and other Asian girls that work in prostitution. Yes I know this because I lived in South Korea for a year and was made very clear to stay away from any girls working in juicy bars and other such less reputable businesses that are everywhere in many South Korean cities. The same happens in US, as many girls are sent all over the world, not just South Korea

     

    So to say he had no clue is disingenuous, at best was being wilfully ignorant (seemingly like yourself). 

     

    Give me a break here. 

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  13. 9 hours ago, chad72 said:

    A very practical trade back would be to swap our #34 pick with the Eagles picks #53 and #57, thus giving us three second rounders at #53, #57 and #58. Eagles are typically trade trigger happy and will move up if a player they really want is still out there at #34, IMO. I would be very much fine with that trade. 

     

    Another trade possibility is if the Redskins do not want to reach for a QB at No. 15, draft someone else and want to move back into Round 1 for a QB like Daniel Jones or even Kyler Murray, if they are available at No.26 and offer a future 1st, plus current 2nd and 3rd for the same.

    I think the talent level we can get at pick #34 is too much to trade out of.

  14. 7 hours ago, Tombstone said:

    Will you be disappointed if this was the case and we go receiver in the first round.  He is aware that the Colts fan are looking for a number 2 Wide out and he did say in that interview the fans say that this is a need.  This is going to be interesting what happens but in Chris I trust

    He also said he doesn't care what the fans think and is going to do whats best for the team.   So I don't expect our first to be a WR.  It will most likely be a DB, DT/DE/Rush LB.

  15. 6 hours ago, esmort said:

     

    I might be tempted to take "the over" on that.

    ok, I'd give you three and that's a risky three. Giants, Jags, and Broncos are in the market for a QB.  If one of those signs a QB or trades for one (Like Jacoby) then you may only see two get drafted. Duke's QB may not make it into the first round, Patriots might go for him though.  But none of them are worthy of a top 10 pick by skill, only by supply and demand.

  16. 13 hours ago, shastamasta said:

     

    Yeah...I think people need to accept that WR might just be the play, considering where they are drafting.

     

    Something tells me that they probably won't be drafting at #26. I sense either an agressive move up if someone slips or a trade back to try to have get some more draft assets.

    We're straying a bit off topic (My fault), but I think we should definitely nab one of those safeties honestly, or even Corner if the DEs/rush LBs available aren't as highly rated. Since DBs and DEs feed off of each other, either will work.

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