swifty1812
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Only 2 questions i have about all of these moves.
1 didn't Hasselbeck say he was retiring? and if so what cap space would open up from that?
2. I would rather go with a younger cover safety than Bethea at this point. I would try for Clemmons, especially if we get more free money from Hasselbeck retiring.
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Not sure if this has been posted or if I have missed anything on an extension given to him, but what about Chris Clemons? He surely wouldn't cost as much as Byrd, but wouldn't be a huge drop off in ability. He would give Landry more of a chance to get down in the box and be the hitter that he is, and not place him on an island trying to cover.
Just a thought.
I still struggle with dropping Toler, I know financially we can make it happen, but him and Vontae looked good once they got into a groove before the injury. And I just don't think we would have the funds to drop that much money in the secondary, that puts too much weight on 4 positions that would then also have 0 depth. I would rather keep Toler, draft a CB in the 2nd or 3rd, give Gordy some more chances and maybe pick up Corey Graham from the Ravens or Chris Cook from Minnesota.
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so basically Brown is better with a OLine that doesn't block very well. That was last year. Next year, the goal is to improve the OLine and create better run blocking holes. This is where Donald Brown no longer makes sense. Times are a changin and next year TRich will be the man
TRich will be the man next year no matter what. And it has nothing to do with the size of the holes that are made for DB. it is all about the scheme of the runs. Man Schemes are just, run to this spot, the hole will be there, if not either kick outside or push through.
ZBS the run is aimed at a "Zone" of the OL or to an area, It is built more for patience thus why you see Trent stutter step alot, waiting for a hole to open up and him to be able to cut to it and go. We saw a few times this year that Trent can cut back on a dime, if we put a ZBS in place and get him more in his comfort zone, I have no doubt he will flourish.
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Do you people not remember Donald Brown a season or 2 ago? He was freakin awful and we all wanted him gone. He then has one good year (his contract year) and you act like he is irreplaceable... We have seen what a difference a few years can do for Donald Brown, so why are you acting like it is impossible for Trent Richardson to get better? Brown hit his ceiling this year and will only go down hill. TRich/Ballard is the direction we need to go and i am glad we are doing it. I hope we can bring back Bradshaw on a low risk contract also.
This is where you are wrong though, Brown has always had a high ceiling, but we were forcing a square peg into a round hole with him. Last year when he ran with some of the Man Blocking fronts he excelled, until he was hurt. He has always had the big play ability just wasn't given the chances.
Brown was never a ZBS back, he isn't one to read the line and find the best hole. He was a "Here is the hole, run down hill and use your speed to throw the angles of the defense off" back. He has the ability to get "Small" and squirt through small hole. Thus why he excelled even more this year.
Trent is the opposite. He is a patient runner that is looking for "the Best" hole to open. The main problem he had in our system is that the holes are small and not open long enough for you to be patient. You have to hit it quick and get small, which Trent can do neither of those things. At this point, the only way that Trent is going to get better is for us to switch to a ZBS.
Brown was never BAD, a) people just had no idea what they were looking at, and due to injury he couldn't fully show them what he could do. b) He was being used the wrong way, just as Trent is now.
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I would love for this to happen..
Just don't feel comfortable with Howell as a starter.
Hope we can upgrade the safety position.
We could even pick up Kendrick Lewis from KC. I can't imagine him costing too much. Not Byrd or Ward money that is.
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I truly think people will end up seeing this as a big mistake in the long run.
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Most of that money comes from the salary we WERE paying Toler.
Re-sign Davis, but then go out there and find a different CB in FA and cut Toler. Say we pay someone like Shields 6 million. Only 2 million of that is taken out of our free cap space because we where paying Toler 4 million.
At the very least I hope they draft a CB in the 2nd round and keep Toler. And then when Toler inevitably goes down with an injury in the 3rd game of the season the rookie can come in, play at least as well as Toler and keep him on the field.
You mention Gordy a lot. He's not gonna get paid much, his salary isn't even worth mentioning in this discussion.
Based on other Contracts, I would guess Davis will demand 8-9.5 M. Then your saying sign another Corner for $6M. Add in Butler at $2.5M and our CB Depth after that would be Sheldon Price and Marcus Burley.
With the other holes that we have to fill I just don't see the point in spending the extra 2M on another corner. Especially when seeing that we will need a new FS, ILB, and DL help.
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If they sign for 1 or 2 million more it wouldn't be a big deal as long as they stay on the field and play well.
Again, where are we going to get that money, what position are we going to skimp on to afford it. Also, what happens if we lose Vontae and Toler. That would be losing 4 Cbs in one year, we would basically just have Butler and a bunch of scrubs.
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There are lots of free agent CB's on the market who are good enough to start.
http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2014CB.php
Toler counts for 4.8 million against the cap and we can save 4.2 million by cutting him.
He has an injury history before us and spent the vast majority of the season injured to the point that we would have been better off putting him on IR.
And I didn't see anything from in him that made me think he's worth 4.2 million even while on the field. The only memorable play he ever made with us was during pre-season.
The Problem isn't getting another CB, it would be having to get 2 CBs. Vontae is an FA as is Gordy. We can not afford to keep Vontae AND give big money to another FA CB. That is why everyone grasping at us cutting Toler are going to be greatly disappointed. It just won't happen.
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Gordy and Cam Johnson are RFA so they won't go anywhere. We will re-sign S.Brown, V.Davis, P.McAfee.
Maybe D.Brown and J.Reitz or even Link.Other than those, the rest I could see just walking
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I would try all I can to sign Donald Bulter away from SD, then go for a safety like Kendrick Lewis or Nate Allen. Might end up having to let Bethea walk. re-sign Vontae and draft a CB to build up. I think that will go a long way. Butler would give us a solid pass covering LB and we could let Freeman do more blitzing that way. Lewis and Allen are both fairly solid in pass coverage and then we could put Landry in more of a position to roam closer to the line and not in coverage.
We won't be able to afford 2 high priced CBs in one year, so people have to just understand that Toler will be here next year, no matter what.
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I really think a lot of you that are saying, "Let Brown walk", are going to be disappointed when he is gone. Neither Ballard or Richardson have his speed, and we will miss that next year. I can't remember who posted them last year, but the stats before DB went down showed him as one of the best backs after first contact in the league and we see that continuing this year.
If he ends up going to another team with an OL that can open holes, you are going to see a top back in the league, and I have no doubt in my mind about that. And then we will be here watching Trent get tackled by 1 foot after gaining two yards, but man will those two yards look like an epic effort.
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Isn't Spikes a Free Agent next year. i think he would look really solid next to Freeman.
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Isn't he a RB that went to Purdue?
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Funny thing is, the stuff that Trent is doing is exactly what people used to complain about Donald doing. it could just be something that these young guys need to figure out, that instead of thinking they just need to hit the hole and go. It really sounds like a lot of it is just in Trent's head at this point.
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Trent is not Donald. He is getting the same treatment, the one thing i don't see with him is the ability to run past people. Trent just needs to keep his momentum going forward and stop the stutter step. That is the same thing Addai and Donald did up until thus year. The jump cut crap, it kills their momentum, and it works for some guys, but not all. Edge could do it and accelerate fast, where Trent can't. I would almost bet that is what he was taught in Cleveland and now he just has to relearn how to not do it. You can see Donald just running downhill now, and see how much better of a back that he is.
Give him time, i think he will show us all what he can do once he gets out of that habit.
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The thing that worries me most about Glenn are these things I found on his scouting report: "Lacks Intensity" and "Questionable Work Ethic"
To me that just screams out Tony Ugoh part 2 and I want absolutely nothing to do with it. I would rather go Hill, Fleener, Upshaw, or trade down.
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the Marvin Jones pick. I can't see Thompson falling to round 3, and Jeff Allen pick makes no sense. I honestly don't see us picking OL until later on, since we picked up a lot in the off season. If I go OL Im shooting for Miller in 5th or 6th. or even Lucas Nix in 5th.
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I'd like Nick Toon in Round 4.
Marvin Jones from Cal is my choice in Round 4. I am huge on Toon but if Jones is still there I would take him over Toon, just merely due to injury history.
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that would be amazing Chad!!! I would EASILY chose him over Fleener.
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Andy I love it. My only switch, which seems like a broken record now, is switch the reciever from Dwight to Marvin Jones. other than that, great work. My only fear is that Pitt will grab Ta'Amu in late 2nd and if that is the case I would switch up picks 3-5 like this:
Leonard Johnson CB
Marvin Jones WR
Audie Cole ILB
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what about a 1st round Corner that falls to the second (Janoris Jenkins)
Jenkins is completely off my board. The kid has too many red flags and I would much rather wait until round 4ish and pick up Leonard Johnson, who might not be as physically gifted as jenkins, but doesn't have the red flags and is a VERY good man up corner.
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I really don't see many players that could fall in the 2nd round that I rate much higher than Fleener. WR there are solid starters that can be had in rounds 3-5. I am really not much of a fan of any of the 2nd round rated corners. The DTs that we would need should still be available in 3rd round or later. So as long as Hill or Wright don't fall to this pick, which I can't see happening, Fleener seems like a no brainer.
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I agree with all those except 6,7 and 9
Actually Reason 9 is the main issue that RG3 has. He can't sense the pressure very well at this point. Since he was running a spread most of his plays were 1 read and fire. His internal clock is not fully developed like Luck's is. The reason this is the main worry, in my opinion, is he is going to take a few more hits than Luck, and with his smaller stature that could lead to injuries. Not saying he will get injured, but that would be my main fear in drafting him.
As we all saw for years with PM, its not about the OL protecting the QB as much as it is the QB knowing how to feel that pressure and how much time he has before he is going to get clocked. So instead of getting hammered and taking a big hit because he isn't ready for it, PM would feel the pressure before it got there and make a slight movement and/or prepare for the hit so he wouldn't get clocked, thus saving him from injury for all those years. I honestly think that played about 80% in Manning being and ironman for as long as he was.
Superman's 2014 mock w/ UDFAs
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I think if we get some cap savings for hasselbeck we could afford a better safety. Also even in the same league just much younger I would consider Nate Allen