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12 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:
Wow.......you sound like you are miserable at a party.
calm down, take a joke, eat Snickers...
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1 minute ago, chad72 said:
Yep, work ethic and his diabetes affecting his attitude sometimesGood Ballard seems to be looking beyond these stuff...
Ballard now seems destined to draft talents irrespective of flags, medical or others...
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5 minutes ago, chad72 said:
Man, I wish they still had the Laugh emoji
I'm very sorry
I had this joke ready for Adonai Mitchell draft selection, for any team..
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Colts Draft Adonai Mitchell and his daily insulin monitor guy.
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7 minutes ago, NFLfan said:
True but the farther back you select, the greater chance the player will not be successful. My former GM Rick Spielman loved 6th and 7th Rd picks. While I liked him a lot, I did not like when he traded back so frequently. He was a lot like Ballard in many ways.
Yeah, Speilman and Ballard should start podcast after Ballard's tenure in Indy... Like minded guys, both love free agent QBs
, trading down, and building through draft mostly, sticking to a similar coach or scheme until it all goes down.
Ballard has chance to deviate the course, he already did by drafting AR so maybe he'll do better.
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8 minutes ago, csmopar said:
Not terrible comp
I laughed silently at all the mock drafts, that trade back and get extra 3rd round draft pick... Like, many guys wanting MORE, MORE day 2 picks by trading Down.
Let the reality sink in.. you get picks in the range 140+...
Because, if a team tried to trade up, they'd give more. If Colts try to trade down, initiating the offer, the other team is gonna give their least favourite picks.
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5 minutes ago, NFLfan said:
He has a great attitude. Seems sure of himself without being boastful. He looks like a leader.
Lot of guys looked very nice and humble on podium, I liked how Odunze handled himself..
I also like the few guys in Green Room who congratulated every player being drafted, while they had to wait longer... Very few guys were doing that every time, and actually having fun in spite of not getting drafted (yet). Those are very good guys to have around the locker room.
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19 minutes ago, Mike06181 said:
Or they will trade him after yr 2
Yeah, for sure... He's a head case (in a very subtle, silent manner), will create unnecessary headaches all his tenure..
The league year just started, and he's already started 2 issues:
1) revealed the tampering evidences - for which his camp is not sorry, but...
2) his camp is quick to let everyone know their displeasure on Falcons draft selection!
These are unnecessary headaches that you don't want your franchise QB to make, just within 50 days of league year starting, still 100 days away from actual football.
Then, Kirk wonders why "No One Like That?!"
Meanwhile, Goff said trade to Detroit had been the biggest event of his career.. and I thought Goff would be a bust, he proved many wrong by his football play and not speaking a word about how he was hurt all these years, not shouting at Rams "You Like That?" After last year play-off win, etc., That's the sign of a matured QB. A classy, team oriented player focused only on winning for the current franchise, coaches and teammates... That's what you wanna see from your franchise QB!
To your point, yes, as it is 4-year contract and lot of money tied, 2 years later would be a good starting point to move on.
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2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Not to start a debate or anything, but you said "he never got upset with not even going to conference championship". How do you know this to be true? Also, I highly doubt he wasn't upset when he lost in the playoffs. You are letting your hate for Cousins to post something like that. After the Vikings lost to the Giants, he was very upset and was blaming himself. Go back and look at the press conferences.
Typically, when someone doesn't like someone, they make up stuff about them and have no facts to back it up. They just have it in their heads and really believe what they are posting/saying. Like this person is bad or doesn't care, etc. that goes with Sports, Politics, etc..
Regarding Matt Ryan, Matt was a better QB all-time and handled things differently than what Cousins does. Matt was like a calm leader. Being a #3 pick, he had to be like that.
You give Ton of advice but don't use it for yourself...
How do you know I hate Cousins, you decide for yourself? Then you turn back asking similar question about Cousins?
I supported Cousins even while knowing that his tape shows all the inconsistency, that will plague all his career.. you have only heard from me about Cousins maybe for 2 years but he's been Vikings QB for 6 years...
Every time, you start this debate and you don't even get closer to my viewpoint, which if even I explain like 2 days back, you beat all around the point except about talking about the actual point (that Superman's analogy about how it feels like watching a QB when he plays for your team).. so, I will have to stop replying you whenever you pick-up this topic with me...
Thankfully, Cousins is gone, can't wait for your predictions for Falcons go up in smoke this year and can't wait to hear about all the excuses (including Penix selection).. ha ha
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33 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Have you been drinking this morning?
The Titans drafted Lathum
Drinks probably, makes sense..
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2 hours ago, NFLfan said:
Would Kirk have been that upset had they taken another player at a position of strength, say Brock Bowers at TE? I'm pretty sure he would not have been upset with that selection or with a player on defense.
Kirk should understand it is part of team building. Even with Vikings, he saw other QBs as some kind of competition, and as insult to him. Funny he never got upset with not even going to conference championship, for example. That's part of the reason why he never wins big games.. he doesn't love the team, he lives himself and his pride more than anything. As well as he talks great about everything, his actions show He's all about himself all the time.
Compare him to Matt Ryan for example, Ryan took everything with dignity and that comes from having team above himself, and even if he's benched he stood by their decisions by both words and actions. That includes not letting out statement from agent that he was a little confused or upset.
I suspect Kirk will throw fits like he did in Washington when he loses his arm strength at he ages and his team starts to bench him. That will be a riot.
As of now, he's a starter and he just has to keep his mouth shut (that includes any statement from his agent or his camp) and do his part in bringing success to the team, no matter what. This is a bad start to his Falcons tenure.
As for Falcons drafting Penix, one great WR or defensive player may or may not make a big difference in the Big picture. Maybe, that shows they're happy they got Kirk and that alone makes them very close to winning division and qualifying for playoffs, so they are looking into future. Kirk should take it as a positive reflection on him for this year.
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37 minutes ago, Mike06181 said:
Very happy lions got this kid. Class act will fit lions culture day 1.
Great pick, congrats... Finally, a first round CB might work out well, and it would be perfect timing for this team.
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8 minutes ago, RollerColt said:
Mostly desperate. Denver put themselves into a bad position with the whole Wilson thing. They really had no choice but to take a QB. Atlanta is still very odd to me with taking Penix Jr... With the whole Cousins trade, you'd have thought they were going to get one of the top defensive players to make a push for the division title.
Almost all the experts were projecting Dallas Turner to Falcons... So, it's funny Falcons took away Kirk from Vikings and gifted back Turner as well.
I think Falcons have made good moves in free agency, picking an elite defensive player might help theoretically, but trust me, nothing will help Kirk unless he does his part in big plays, big games, big downs (sort of like the saying "God helps those who helps themselves") - that's exactly why elite QB money is thrown around, not to ask for a great all-around team surrounding him.
And Kirk keeps getting Elite money without coming close to the production (not fantasy stats production).
I think Falcons are looking tightly at the big picture, building a team for the future, looking two years ahead. We know Kirk's contract can be set aside in a couple of years, while eating tens of millions of dead cap hit and by the time they may be looking to complete the roster build.
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14 minutes ago, Crunked said:
I thought someone might ask "who" I would want him to swing for the fences for.....and its tough to explain, but I will try. I would have loved Marv Jr. for nostalgia but knew that was unrealistic at any cost.....Liked the idea of Brock Bowers, etc. but its not really "WHO" for me, it was the effort, risk it....and this applies to FA as well. Go out on a limb for a difference maker, I think they are more qualified to determine "who" that is than I.....and maybe there wasn't one. but over the last 7 or 8 years there have been opportunities in FA and draft. So maybe my disappointment is more cumulative than this instance specific......Dunno if that makes sense, he has played it safe for years and does well with what he has had, guess I am saying (my opinion) at some point you gotta say "I am pushing all in" for this player as we need that over the top player now......and he never seems to reach that boiling point.
I asked for a player example, because I thought you were talking about this first round draft pick as Latu is such a great pick. If you're referring collectively, especially free agency, agreed totally. Anyway, I think Ballard is slowly reaching the point where he's started targeting elite players in very important positions (Hunter, Sneed, Latu), but yeah the slow transition pace in his method is not very inspiring.
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5 hours ago, colts89 said:
I agree. I definitely don't like some of the moves Ballard makes, but when he speaks he is usually pretty transparent.
Ballard speaks eloquently and that makes fan base calm down for that moment, but not exactly transparent...
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Start of last season: Ballard said he liked the young secondary he just drafted.
Year-end Presser: He blamed himself for throwing the young secondary group into the fire.
Pre-draft presser: Ballard says, The young secondary group is not young anymore, and they've all grown up. (When zero off-season program or progress they achieved between January and April)
What exactly transparency we see here? But, Ballard knows how to appease people, and talk to media so that people will trust him. He knows what to say to make fan base trust him a bit more and give him more time
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5 minutes ago, Crunked said:
We have some positions of need just like any team. I really felt this offseason we needed a true difference maker(S), either at WR/TE , or defense....maybe Latu can be that guy, but combined with what we didnt do in FA pretty disappointed overall.....I am sure this draft class will be "nice" but its been several years of nice, I dont feel like we have enough Dynamic players on either side of the ball to be more than a middle of the road wild card team....Just feels to me he is afraid to take a chance and swing for the fences once in a while......
I think Latu is exactly that kind of player, who is said to be the most special edge rusher in the draft. Only concern with him was neck injury, but he recovered from that 2 years ago and his awesome tape shows the kind of special player, far from injury concerns. Without that injury history, he'd have been top-10, if not top-5, player in this draft easily.
So, what more swing-for-fences move you refer to? Which player did you have in mind?
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3 hours ago, NFLfan said:
I don't get why they drafted him. It seemed like a reach. It was not a need. They could have drafted Odunze or any number of defensive players. I don't get it.
I did not think of that.
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Falcons probably drafted Penix because they liked him, more than most other players because of the importance of QB position as well.
Note that They didn't draft JJ McCarthy so it shows Falcons staff definitely had their preference, inclination and liking to his QB play more than anyone else.
I think the thumb rule is if a team likes a QB very much, there are chances it won't happen again sooner in future, and even if they like few QBs in near future they may not be in position to draft the players they love.
So, general rule is always draft a QB if you like and when you can - same with Lions last year, and I hope Vikings did the same this draft.
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2 hours ago, IndyEV said:
They havent done a very good job of explaining trades tonight!
Just traded picks and traded 5th/6th round picks
@Happy2BeHere this NFL website page shows all the trades before and during the NFL draft this off-season, and you can bookmark it to visit again whenever a draft day trade happens in next 2 days.
It takes around 10-15 minutes for the details to be reflected, so don't expect full information when the team involved in trade are immediately on the clock.
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1 hour ago, NFLfan said:
Penix did not have to do it alone. Lots of his teammates are being drafted. Anyway, he is injury-prone. We need a QB who will stay on the field.
Anyway, let's agree to disagree. It is clear that others disagree with me, as he was drafted 8th and Kurt Warner likes him. I'm ok with that.
The Colts need a WR.
Bills are gonna draft, with first draft pick of day 2, either McConkey or Mitchell.
Maybe, they'll surprise and pick another WR but past few draft selections show that different teams have different WRs at the top order of their draft board.
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2 hours ago, NFLfan said:
1. Kirk didn't give any heads-up either that he was gonna reveal tampering of Falcons out in the worst place, introductory press conference!
2. I find funny how "Cousins camp" and his agent act as if their client is Tom Brady! They talked about him achieving Super Bowl success, hyping up Cousins, while bargaining with Jets and Minnesota when he came out of DC.
3. Also, it's funny that Cousins camp even want Falcons to utilize every draft pick for Cousins, and act like picking a rookie QB is somehow a problem. If he's that good, it's a problem only for Penix - like how everybody forgot about QB Hooker after Lions' last season. No one cares now if Hooker even recovered from ACL fully.
So, Kirk - maybe, you make people forget that Penix is on the roster. But, I suspect Falcons made a necessary move, in case Kirk gets injured or doesn't make a big difference.
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5 minutes ago, IndyEV said:
Latu doesnt look very big!? Doesnt look like he will Bull rush any OT!? Lets hope he’s not another edge that will overrun the qb by a mile every play!
Hope is that he's like TJ Watt mold of a player
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5 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:
In the words of bill bellichick, no disrespect to the secondary, but if the qb can’t get the ball out, you don’t have to cover as long…
Bring. the. heat.
many on here said the pressure from the d-line wasn’t good enough in spite of a record breaking sack year… said it wouldn’t sustain without the pressure. Well, we will find out…
What would you find out?
That was said about the current pass rushers. Which Ballard seems to agree
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1 minute ago, NFLfan said:
Brian Thomas Jr. looks like Antonio Brown.
Before or after Musth?
, trading down, and building through draft mostly, sticking to a similar coach or scheme until it all goes down.
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2024 NFL Draft Day 2 (Rounds 2 & 3) Discussion Thread ****NO SPOILERS****
in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk
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@NFLfan I picked exact same position or same player in DN draft for Packers, they're following same logic..
My picks for GB:
Graham Barton
Edgerrin Cooper
Javon Bullard
GB picks so far:
Tyler Guyton
Edgerrin Cooper
Javon Bullard