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    Chris Ballard at the Half-way Point (and Beyond)

    in Colts Football

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    5 hours ago, DougDew said:

    I'm not.  You're the one who responded to Ballard's comment:

     

     “It’s funny, ‘cause I’ve lived this in Chicago our first year in 2004. I thought we had a very talented team, but it’s a scheme that it takes a lot of discipline and it takes time to learn."
     

    by saying:


    Sure seems like he's building a Tampa 2.

     

    I was commenting that according to Polian and Dungy, that wouldn't be the way to describe a Tampa 2 defense, (relative to others we could choose to run)


    LOL , so based on your comments , I shouldn't suppose that the entire  reason for bringing Dungy/Polian quotes devoid of context (or relevancy , really) isn't to discredit my assumption?

    You mentioned them why , exactly? 

     

    On 10/31/2018 at 11:22 AM, DougDew said:

    What we want to play is probably not the same basic Tampa 2 that we had 10 years ago.  

     

    Its why I tend to hesitate calling our defense a Tampa 2.  We should probably just call it   Defense.

     

    19 hours ago, DougDew said:

    But if our D is similar to what Dungy ran, a Tampa 2, Dungy said it was simple and not complex.

     

    Honestly, I personally think we run something a bit different than what a Tampa 2 is and I probably wouldn't call it that.



    Because anyone with half a brain can see what you're doing. 

    Chris Ballard at the Half-way Point (and Beyond)

    in Colts Football

    Posted

    6 hours ago, DougDew said:

    But if our D is similar to what Dungy ran, a Tampa 2, Dungy said it was simple and not complex.


    Learning discipline can still be difficult or at least time consuming. Especially if we have a lot of carry overs from the previous scheme -- which we do. 

    That doesn't mean the same thing as being advanced tactically. Tampa is more simple , but that doesn't mean dudes can just learn all the intricacies overnight.

    I have no idea why you're turning this into "Ballard says it's difficult , but Dungy doesn't" , unless this is somehow your attempt at a foothold in saying we're running something different than Tampa 2. In which case , I would just say chill out. You might be right , but this isn't the way to prove it.

    Ballard specifically said it reminds him of the Bears first learning Lovie's defense when he first got there in 2004. He then said "it's a scheme that takes time to learn."  "It's" indicates what to you?  To me , it means he's talking about the same defense , or at the very least , the same principles. 

    Was Dungy's quote 8 games into his first season with Indy? Because that would be the equivalent. I'm sure it took our guys time to learn the intricacies of the  scheme in 2002 as well. No defense is instantly installed and perfected.

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    Chris Ballard at the Half-way Point (and Beyond)

    in Colts Football

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    7 hours ago, DougDew said:

    That's exactly the opposite of what Dungy said, if we're talking about his Tampa 2.  He said it was a very simple defense to learn, which is why it was always supplied with rookies and young players.  It allowed Polian to focus more on offense because non-special players could play defense immediately because it was so simple.

     

    The zone-blitz 34 is complicated by comparison.  At least that's what Polian said many times on his old radio show.


    And?

    They asked him about the defense , and his first inclination was to refer to the Tampa 2 they ran in Chicago as a reference point.

    That was my indicator. I wasn't saying "he must be talking about Tampa 2 because of it's complexity."

    Maybe the scheme will change/vary as we add talent , but for now , it's pretty damn similar. 

    Trade deadline staying put.

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    I didn't expect Ballard to do anything , and I didn't want any of the guys traded today.

    I was semi-interested in Karl Joseph as a reclamation type , but I wouldn't have given up more than a 7th. Highly doubt that would've got it done, though.

    I want us to have more picks for the upcoming draft , not less. Like it's been mentioned , I expect Brissett to be dealt in the offseason. Hopefully that will allow us to add some draft capital.

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    Chris Ballard at the Half-way Point (and Beyond)

    in Colts Football

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    Couple things I found interesting:

    On the defense: “It’s funny, ‘cause I’ve lived this in Chicago our first year in 2004. I thought we had a very talented team, but it’s a scheme that it takes a lot of discipline and it takes time to learn."

    Sure seems like he's building a Tampa 2.

    On free agency: "Is there a time that we could go into free agency and we see a piece that we think fits and it fits culturally, from not only from a scheme perspective, but also from a character perspective? When you bring a guy into your locker room and you him a highly-paid player, there’s a lot more that comes with that than just playing on the field. That means that guy needs to do everything right because he’s looked upon differently than the rest of the locker room.”

    Translation: he's gunna be super picky for any big name/money signings. They need to check a lot of boxes , not only on the field , but off it. 

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    A Secret about our 4-3 Defense....

    in Colts Football

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    I'd like to see that 4-1-6 snap count come down , personally. We're just begging to be run on. 

    What I will say is , I'm pretty comfortable in devaluing the SAM. Ballard brought in Goode and backed up him with 7th rounders. I don't think he values it as highly because we're so often in pass-defending sub-packages which is a product of the modern NFL. Two quality LB's is ideal , 3 isn't really necessary. 

    And you're 100% correct in thinking we need a way better d-line if we plan on running a 4-1-6/4-2-5 so damn often. And if we were to not address our line, we'd need a freak safety in the Derwin James mold at the very least to assist Leonard in the run game on the second level. I'm just so out on Geathers. 

    For me, if I were to rank the positions I want upgraded in order of greatest need to least , it'd be something like : DT, DE, SS, CB, LB , S , CB

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    Ty Montgomery defied coaches and the team paid for it yesterday

    in NFL General

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    3 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

     

    OK. So teams want to trade for players that disobey coaches? Got it.  ;-)


    For 7th round picks? Of course. 

    Teams have turned a blind eye to FAR worse things. Please. 

    If you honestly believe the Packers dealt a productive young player for a measly 7th round pick for making a "mistake" and not directly disobeying orders and putting himself above the team, then I dunno what to tell you. 

    Believe whatever you want. 

     

    Ty Montgomery defied coaches and the team paid for it yesterday

    in NFL General

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    1 minute ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

    We know there was something to it.  He brought it out when directive was in the end zone, stay there (for all kicks all year), but it is also to clean up the locker room at minimum.  He created a division and mess in there that the Packers can’t have moving forward.

     

    If they couldn't trade him, they may have had to resort to cutting him later today or tomorrow anyway.

     

     

    5 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

     But, evidently there was not a specific direct order given in that situation.

     

    5 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

    Believe it, if a specific direct order was disobeyed (Zooks or McCarthy’s) he would be gone by now.


     I mean , c'mon man.... work with me here. 

     

    Mike Francesa WFAN NY praising Reich + Ballard

    in Colts Football

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    1 minute ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

     

    Yes, I hope he makes better decisions and throws better than drives.

     

    ”Sources in Weehawken with knowledge of the incident said the 23-year-old was trying to make a right turn from the wrong lane to get to Route 495 West, and was directed to keep going straight. Lauletta, driving a Jaguar, made the right turn and nearly ran over the officer directing traffic. He was stopped by another officer at the end of the on-ramp.”

     

     

     

     


    This sound like someone you want to build your franchise around?

    Mike Francesa WFAN NY praising Reich + Ballard

    in Colts Football

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:

    Could we go after a guy like Raiders’ DE Bruce Irvin?  All of his guaranteed money has been paid by Oakland and I believe his salary next year can be dropped without any cap penalty or we can keep him for 9M?  If not him, what position do you think we have interest in?  Receiver?  Cornerback?


    Bruce Irvin is a hard no.

    I think Ballard would look at any position , really. It just has to be a young guy on a good contract for a fair price. 

     

    Mike Francesa WFAN NY praising Reich + Ballard

    in Colts Football

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    28 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:

    Nonsense. So can it also be said that they made Peyton into a Hall of Famer?  I hate when Colts fans try to diminish others just to credit Peyton.  Marvin Harrison put up good numbers when Peyton was a turnover machine early in his career...  In fact it was Marv’s greatness that allowed a young Peyton to get acclimated to the speed of the NFL and put up respectable numbers along with those interceptions.  It was Marv’s greatness that Peyton leaned on to become great.  It was Marv’s greatness that Peyton had the sense to recognize (to bad his Indy fans don’t) and put in the extra, extra time with Marv on perfecting his craft.  

     

    And Reggie proved his worth by putting up pro bowl numbers with a rookie in Luck.  But y’all want to act like Peyton “made” them.  That’s total crap.  They complimented each other.  But since Peyton gets the credit for making them HoF’ers, I guess he also gets the credit for us choking away the majority of our playoff appearances during his years here huh?  Can’t have it both ways.  If he gets all the credit, then he deserves all the blame.  I prefer to give all 3 their own just deserved credit.


    Although Reggie is my favourite , Marvin is in a separate category , imo.
     

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    Mike Francesa WFAN NY praising Reich + Ballard

    in Colts Football

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    1 minute ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

     

    You are entitled to your opinion, and might even prove to be right (no guarantee though).  But Dorsey passed on Darnold (#1) for Mayfield.  Gettleman passed on Darnold.  Their football resources, knowledge, and scouting reports are vastly superior to fans and most all media.  There is also no guarantee for any of these 4 draft QB's from last year. 

     

    Let's revisit this and see who the premier NY area football team is in 3 years.


    Sure, but the Browns passed on Darnold for a QB. I didn't agree with Baker over Darnold , but at least they took a QB. 

    That's far more understandable in my books. 

    As for the GM's having much more insight/information than fans , that's true - of course. But there's tons of GM's that would've done things differently. Most scouts within the game had Darnold ranked higher. Some GM's are flat-out bad , and some make mistakes that the fans can see right away. 

    Dorsett over Landon Collins seemed like a mistake as soon as it happened. And whattaya know...

    Dorsey didn't do what the rest of the league thought he would , and power to him. Baker was his guy , and he took him. 

    In the end , time will give us all the answers , on that we can agree. 

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