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  1. Just now, Lucky Colts Fan said:

    What?  I'd be interested to see your ranking of the greatest leaders at the QB position.  I never saw Unitas or Baugh, but I did see Manning, Brady, Brees, and some later Montana and they were/are better leaders than Rodgers is, IMO.


    Brees for sure. 

    Montana and Rodgers actually have pretty similar disposition. Montana was just playing for a legendary coach in a legendary program. You give Rodgers that coach , and that team , and I'm sure people wouldn't be complaining about his lack of leadership.

    Brady , probably yes. But the real leader of that team has always been Belichick , and again, they've always had the best coaching (and sometimes roster) in the league. You give Rodgers those things , and again, I doubt people would talk about his leadership.

    Environment matters so , so much. Part of the reason Rodger's leadership gets questioned is because McCarthey has been terrible for at least a few years , the play-calling is bland/unimaginative , and the rosters have been sub-par for a QB of his quality. 

    You put Brady in that situation , and of course he'd be * off/unenthusiastic . Rodgers is smarter than the guy he plays for. Brady isn't.
     

    6 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:

    You're arguing a different argument.  Go back and read my OP, it's about his ATTITUDE, which you haven't mentioned once.


    I'm not arguing anything. You said Rodger's leadership is what holds him back from being considered amongst the best , and I'm telling you : a) leadership is typically falsely defined by winning , and b) you put those QB's in his shoes , and 100% their "leadership" would be questioned

    His attitude is Cali-cool , and he's extremely self-confident ... but so are those others guys , they just either hide it better , or don't have to deal with total ineptitude around them.

    Could he be a better leader ? Definitely.

    Is that holding him back from being amongst the greats? Hell no.


     

  2. 4 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:

     

      Rodgers is definitely not the GOAT when it comes to leadership.


    I got news for ya , neither are the guys you mentioned. Just because you win doesn't mean you're a legendary leader of men. That's just what the media pushes. 
     

    6 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:

    you look at the whole picture.


    Then look at the whole picture. 

    Look at how Rodgers has carried that franchise from Day 1. Look at the rosters , look at the coaching , look at the playoff games that people love to define a QB's actual ability from. 

    Or, you can take away all the noise , and just evaluate who plays the position of Quarterback the best. You can study the tape and witness just how absurdly good Rodgers is. 
     

  3. wow , just wow... reading some of these takes.

    Rodgers is the most talented QB of all-time. Where you want to rank him is up to you , but if it's outside the top 10 , you have no idea how to evaluate the position.


     

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  4. 7 hours ago, FalseStart said:

    DT, OT, CB, WR, G

     

    Looking like a 15-25th pick... Colts playing good...

     

    Picks I like...

    RD1: Gary DT, Williams DT, Simmons DT. Brown DT

    RD2: Tillery DT, Risner OT, Harry WR

    RD2: Love CB, Fant TE, Jackson DE

    RD3: Granderson DE, McGovern G, Evans OT, Bush LB, Willis DT         

     

     


    Hard to argue with any of these , really. You may as well cross Williams off your list now though- we're not getting him. He's going really, really high. 

    Love the Risner shout . I think he's got the flexibility to play any position across the line and his character is off the charts. I think he'd be a great addition to our group.

    If Devin Bush slips to the 3rd round , it'll just be because of his size. I think that'd be foolish of NFL teams , but crazier things have happened at the draft. That kid is a beast.

  5. 2 minutes ago, MPStack said:

    but to say Booger turned the defense around, well, I beg to differ on that.


    Well, I guess it's a good thing I didn't say that. :thmup:

    Sanders coming back was a huge help as well. But, watch the tape of our playoff games. Booger was vital , and it was a component were sorely lacked in previous playoff runs.

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