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Who does McShay have in his final mock from this morning? Listening to him on Mike and Mike, sounds like he's been getting a good amount of information in the last 24 hours on where teams are leaning.
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Just now, Jared Cisneros said:
I wrote about this in another thread. In this deep CB class, I don't want King earlier than the 3rd round. He shouldn't go anywhere near the 1st. A completely overrated player.
I'm honestly not that familiar with him. I'm only going off the vibe I've been getting reading different outlets this week.
Combine that with the fact there was a guy a few weeks back claiming to have connections in the Colts war room stating King was in CB's top 10, and that's why he's my darkhorse pick. 99% chance it's probably someone else. I'm just opting to go against the grain with my prediction.
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My wish list is Foster, Jarrad Davis, or Charles Harris. I'd be happy with any of them at 15.
My prediction would actually be a darkhorse pick. Kevin King. I think he checks off everything CB is looking for and the media has been catching on to his stock in the past week or so. I could see him being very high on the Colts' board.
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5 minutes ago, austriancolt said:
I like it. We have a lot of cap left this year so the contract won't hurt us long term and he will upgrade our D. Ballard is doing a good job so far. Now we need a pass rusher, ILB, CB and a RB. If he nails the draft Colts will make a huge step forward.
This. CB now has 6 picks in the first 4 rounds to fill 4 big needs. Colts are in a great spot heading into the draft. Plus, they still have the flexibility to trade down and pick up another 2nd-4th if their guy will be there later in the 1st.
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3 hours ago, Colts1324 said:
Well this world has become all about supply and demand. People want the money to play. If you supply them the money, you'll have a lot of demand. Hard to get top players unless you are willing to pay up. But the smartest long term approach is doing what he is doing(for the most part). It just sucks as a fan!
This isn't how supply and demand works at all.
I agree with the end of your post though. Exercising patience is never the easy route to take, although it's typically the right one.
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I like this draft a lot. I'd probably swap out Walker with a CB, but hard to complain about it as a whole. I still don't see any way Foster drops that far. Too many teams in front of us need play-making LB's. Can't see that many people passing even with his temper tantrum at the combine.
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CB's dropping like flies.
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1 minute ago, NorthernBlue said:
I just feel like everyone got a million times happier when Grigson was given the boot
That alone should result in much better production for a handful of guys in that locker room. Anyone that has ever worked for a bad manager knows how it can keep you from doing a job to the best of your ability.
I'm looking forward to seeing who, if anyone, takes that leap next year.
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By the way, it looks like Jax still has more cap room than we started with. ($53 mil)
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Jacksonville is absolutely desperate to be relevant. I could see them telling DP they'll beat any offer Indy puts forward in both years and $$.
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Foster out of that group. After the Sidney Jones injury, Reddick is 2nd for me but isn't on the list.
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1 minute ago, Majin Vegeta said:
I wonder who I'm thinking about then.. lol
Maybe Lardarius Webb? He just got cut by the Ravens. -
I posted this on the main board but just now saw this thread.
I like Kayvon Webster. 2013 3rd rounder for the Broncos that has been stuck behind Talib and Harris. He's been a special teams stud for Denver, but he just hasn't been able to get on the field with the two guys in front of him.
Sounds like he's looking for a shot to start. I'd offer him a 2-3 mil per and let him compete with an early draft pick for the #2 spot. Measured out at 5'10 200lbs with a 4.41 forty. Plays very physical and would fit into the culture/play style Ballard is trying to build with the defense.
Plus, I think guys like Webster and John Simon will have a chip on their shoulder to prove they should have been more than depth pieces on really good defenses.
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1 minute ago, Majin Vegeta said:
Didnt he play safety for Baltimore last year?
No, he's a former 3rd rounder for the Broncos. He's been buried behind Talib and Harris the past couple years. Still only 26. You have to think he wants a shot to start somewhere.
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I'd give Kayvon Webster a shot to fill the #2 spot. Draft another CB in the first two rounds and create some competition at that position.
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14 hours ago, neug3246 said:
I wasn't asking about moving up, I was asking about moving back from 15 to say about 22 could we also get a 2nd and a third if we did that or would it just be a second etc.
In this example, moving from #15 (1,050 points) to #22 (780 points) leaves a delta of 290 points. Pick 61 is valued at 292 points so you're looking at an extra late 2nd.
Since those two picks don't align with the actual draft order, you're probably looking at something like this:
#15 + #122 + #144 = 1,140 points
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#22 + #54 = 1,140 points
OR if you don't want to give up anything outside of #15, an almost even match would be:
#15 = 1,050 points
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#26 + #58 = 1,020 points
Swapping #15 for #25 + #57 is a perfect match value wise, but that's the Texans so it would be a very cold day in hell if that happened.
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8 minutes ago, stitches said:
BTW Matt Miller's source from Colts scouting/drafting room was spot on last year - he was the first one who reported we are in love with Ryan Kelly and he will not drop past our pick. Unless the source was Grigson himself, chances are whoever was his source is still with the Colts.
Matt Miller is a good one. He's doing an AMA as we speak on Reddit. I may throw together a post with some of the highlights. He's had a handful of interesting comments about some pretty popular prospects around here.
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I really liked some of Harris' game film before the combine. Thought he was a top 20-25 guy for sure. His combine numbers weren't very good for a true edge guy though. I would imagine you could get him early in the 2nd.
40 - 4.82
3 Cone - 7.47
20 Shuttle - 4.42
60 shuttle - 12.48
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1 minute ago, throwing BBZ said:
All of those moves would be spot on.
I kind of favor Hankins, and at this point a reasonable deal with Claiborne could be worth a shot.Hankins is probably my top guy left at this point. If you can get him in the door for a reasonable price, you've added two guys that will help tremendously against the run (including Simon). That gives CB flexibility to go after pass rushers and CB in the draft. I'd also like to see Zach Brown brought in for 7-8 mil max.
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Just now, KB said:
It took 17 pages but the subject somehow found its way in lol.
It's funny. A month or so back, you could have convinced me to take Cook in the 1st.
Now? I can not freaking wait for him to be drafted by some other team just to spite all the Dalvin drones that can't go one thread without proposing the Colts have a firesale to bring him on board.
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1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:
No idea what this means.
Fixed that for you
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2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:
The three big targets that Ballard was reportedly interested in: Jeffrey, Zeitler, and Perry, he missed out on. 20 minutes in, plan A is out the window. At best, we are repeating what Grigson did, at worst, well, we just missed our targets and this will suck.
FTFY
Also, wth. You wanted to pay Jeffery more than $14 mil, Zeitler more than $12 mil, Perry more than $20 mil (year 1)?
These guys have to want to be in Indy too.
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2 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:
didn't Ballard flat out hint that he wasn't going to make a huge splash in FA?
Yes. He literally told us he wasn't going to break the bank in Free Agency. It wasn't even cryptic.
Yet some are still shocked we haven't spent $50 million in 28 minutes. It's crazy.
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2 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Except we don't have 60 million
Semantics.
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