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Unpopular opinion, but a good Head Coach is just as important, if not more important, than a good QB. QBs only control one aspect of the game, whereas a coach controls everything.
Also, in this scenario, I think they would have spoken to Irsay about the plan and both would retain their jobs next year. You can’t look at what they have done with extremely poor QB play, so you have to go back to how the team was under Luck to evaluate them
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Just now, Defjamz26 said:
I just don’t know if Ballard would want two QBs with that type of money on the roster. That’s like $40 mil between two QBs.
I agree. I think if this happened though that I would look to release or straight trade Brissett
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ESPN just recently put up an "article" of sorts predicting what would happen if certain players went to certain places. Of course, the Colts are listed on here multiple times, but the most interesting one for me for Indy was found under the idea of Tom Brady going to the Chargers. After Brady goes to LA, Rivers ends up signing with Jacksonville in this scenario. This is where it gets fun, and I have below the quotes from both parts of the Colts mentions in this section:
QuoteTHE JAGS TRADE NICK FOLES TO THE COLTS IN A SALARY DUMP
To get out of the $20.6 million guaranteed owed to Foles over the next two years, the Jaguars ship their deposed starter to Indy. To get the Colts to eat the money, though, Jacksonville has to send the 20th overall selection it received from the Rams in the Jalen Ramsey trade -- similar to the Brock Osweiler deal in 2017 -- although Indy ships the 110th pick back to the Jags.
This is followed by this prediction:
QuoteTHE COLTS PACKAGE THEIR FIRST-ROUND PICKS TO TRADE UP FOR TUA TAGOVAILOA
With plenty of cap room and draft assets left, general manager Chris Ballard decides to add Indy's quarterback of the future, too. The Colts package the 13th, 20th and 44th selections and send them to the Lions for the third overall pick and a fifth-rounder to draft the Alabama star, who will spend most of 2020 recovering from his hip injury behind Nick Foles and Jacoby Brissett.
Here is the link to the article so you can look through everything yourselves:
What do you all think? Would you do this in this scenario? Personally, I would do the first deal to get Foles, but then keep pick 20 and use 13 on Kinlaw and 20 on Love. There are lots of other Colts mentions here as well, and I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts!
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Haven’t they already come out and said that they will split time with him and Brees next season to work on him as their QB of the future?
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Kinlaw is an almost perfect fit for our team, and an extremely dynamic defender. I really hope we get him as well. If we want Love, we can always just trade up from 34 to say 22 for him, jumping the two teams that he would most likely go to in the Pats and the Saints. Kinlaw and Love would be an ideal draft IMO
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Just now, EastStreet said:
To me, the article/blurbs are basically the same as what you said.
But I agree that you go DE before OT. And because of depth of WR, you go WR even later than DE and OT.
Lol, I tried to edit before anyone caught it to clarify but I was a bit late
. It should be more laid out now.
Also, agreed on WR. If we go for each of these 3, disregarding need, go DE, OT, then WR. OT and WR are really deep this year, but DE is not deep at all, and a sizeable drop after the first 4 go
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26 minutes ago, EastStreet said:
blurb from fanspeak on OT and DE depth
Interesting, though I think it’s a bit different regarding this class. I think there is one star DE and 3 other good DE’s in the draft, while I see 4 Stud tackles and 4 or 5 more good OTs in the class. If you go for both this year, go DE early and get OT a bit later. I know it sounds similar to how it’s posted, but I think if you even want a contributor in this class at DE you need one in the first, and if you want an OT you can grab a stud early or wait until the 4th/5th for a development prospect with major upside
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2 minutes ago, DownHillRunner said:
It's hard for me to believe Love will make it past the Saints and Patriots in the 20s. Ballard could trade back with the Eagles or Bills to get Love then. Eagles need a Cornerback more than anything so that leaves the Bills. The Bills need a number 1 receiver, and Jerry Jeudy isn't going to fall to the 20s. Bills could trade up and snatch Jeudy at 13 and we take their 22nd pick and get Love then.
My favorite idea is to trade picks 34 and our 3rd to the Bills for 22 to leapfrog the Pats and Saints there. The value is about even according to the pick value chart
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I vote Love and Rivers, so long as we don’t spend 13 on Love and instead trade up from 34 for him. If not Rivers, then Brissett, and if not Love then Eason
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Actual Meaning: Ryan Kelly, Despite Injury Concerns, Will Start Week 1
Misleading Title: Hooker Wants Out Of Indy
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30 minutes ago, pacolts56 said:
IMO.... Kinlaw at #13 as a 3T and Gallimore as a 1T at # 34 would be great.
I like this, but I would like to use 34 on another position or for a trade up to say pick 22 to get Love if he falls there, then use 44 on Gallimore if he makes it and if not Ross Blacklock
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It would be a major reach if we did. I would much rather trade up to pick 22 with our first 2nd rounder and our 3rd rounder and take him there if we really love him, but I think using pick 13 would be a big mistake, especially if someone like Kinlaw or Brown is available
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Less of a report and more of a prediction. However, it would take a ton to get up that high to be able to draft him, so it ultimately depends on if Ballard is willing to use a lot of draft capital to move up, which we haven't seen from him thus far.
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I voted 34 for the QB pick, but I wouldn’t be opposed to making a deal to move up from that puck to get a QB if one falls a bit.
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So, in thinking today about some picks and whatnot, I have decided to come up with a new Mock Draft for the team, and this time, I wanted to make some trades. Let's get into it!
Round 1, Pick 13: Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
The more I work through scouting and mock drafts, the more I feel like, should Kinlaw be there at 13, he has to be the pick. He is exactly what Ballard has said he's looking for, and exactly what this team needs. Kinlaw steps in as a Day One starter, and has All Pro upside within a few years. Unless Derrick Brown falls here, Kinlaw is my choice 9 times out of 10.
TRADE!!!!!
The Colts Trade Picks 34 and 75 to the Buffalo Bills for Pick 22
Round 1, Pick 22: Jordan Love, QB, Utah State
I know, I know. Surprising, isn't it. However, I never was on the train of thought that Jordan Love wasn't good, I just didn't want to use Pick 13 on him. However, he is moving up slowly in my rankings and now has a decent gap between him and my QB 5 of Jacob Eason. I would prefer to get Love with Pick 34, but I don't see him falling past the Saints at 24, so we leapfrog them here to get our (hopefully) Franchise QB. Bring in a Vet (Rivers/Brady?) to mentor him for a year and see where he takes us!
Round 2, Pick 44: Neville Gallimore, DT, Oklahoma
Kinlaw slides in at the 3-tech, and Gallimore comes in as our new 1-tech. Gallimore is a very good interior lineman, and pairing these two early picks together up front will tremendously improve both our pass rush and overall defense. If Gallimore isn't here, I'd look at Ross Blacklock, though he projects more as a 3-tech like Kinlaw.
Round 4: Solomon Kindley, G, Georgia
Kindley is my top rated Interior O-lineman, yet I have seen him fall this far in many drafts before. He is dominant at everything he does, with the only knock on him being that he might want to lose some weight to move faster in the NFL. Other than that, he is a beast. He would replace Glow on the right side almost from day one, and help our front line become even more dominant, potentially making it the unquestioned best in the league pending Castonzo's decision.
Round 5: Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
An amazing WR, the only knock on Claypool's game is that he is too slow. If he does well at the combine in the 40, he could shoot up draft boards, as his skill set is that of a round 1 talent. I think he could take over as our WR1 in a few years, as he is that good to be going this late in the draft.
Round 6 (1st): Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
I know back-to-back receivers doesn't sound great, but each of these guys have so much potential in a deep class that I can't miss out on either. Given a few years of development, if they both pan out, they could be our top two WRs for the future after TY.
Round 6 (2nd): A.J. Dillon, RB, Boston College
This team has a great running game, but none of the guys on the roster really fit well in a goal-line back role. That is Dillon's specialty. At this late stage of the draft, getting a guy who could score 10+ touchdowns as a rookie is a massive get for a team that all to often is forced to pass or sweep outside in short yardage situations.
Round 7: Shyheim Carter, S, Alabama
A late round steal, Carter is a team's chess-piece. He has the speed to play as a nickel corner, while also having many times where Saban moved him to a sub LB. He won't start for the team, but in obvious passing situations he can come in and play an important role of shutting down the short and intermediate area's of the field.
Any changes you might make? Any surprises? Who here is your favorite pick, and who don't you like? Mock draft 3 will come out at some point soon after the Combine! I hope you enjoy this draft as much as I do! GO COLTS!!
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12 minutes ago, Hoose said:
You're going to want a WR in there somewhere in the first 2 rounds. Just Clowney and Kinlaw alone would be a huge upgrade and as much as you need. Then go to work on improving the O. WR; TE; OT. And of course........ someone who can throw the ball.
The dream for me would be Kinlaw in the first, Love and Blacklock in the second, and then Denzel Mims in the 3rd, adding a TE and Chase Claypool in the next few rounds
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28 minutes ago, SP_21 said:
Is Bryan Edwards not a Top 20 WR in your opinion?
He’s actually 21. I think he is a very good receiver as well, and he should turn into a quality number 2 guy on a team, but their are too many good names to fit on a 20 man list
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5 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
While you have a point in a way, Love is no where near the level of prospect that Mahomes was, and players of this level of need in development don’t pan out just as often if not more often than they hit. Mahomes is a statistical outlier, comparing Love’s situation to him is insane
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Dream Offseason for our front 7:
Sign Clowney
Draft Kinlaw at 13
Draft Blacklock/Gallimore at 34 or 44
Our line if this happened would rival SF as the best D-Line in the league
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@stitches Thank you for your input! I'll hit on a few things you mentioned as to my thought process:
- Reagor over Ruggs was easy for me. Jalen is extremely underrated and despite being 5'11, he high points the ball better than almost anyone in the class. That, along with his speed, makes him a very interesting player for me, and I agree that the overall depth is amazing this year!
- Josh Jones, though I like his tools, is very raw. I like his skillset, but IMO he's got a ton to work on before I'd be confident putting him on the field.
- Kindley, along with Lemieux, are grossly underrated by most board. The only knock on Kindley is that he actually might want to lose weight, but every other aspect of his game is top tier. He and Lemieux are both rated by many as mid-rounders, but they should be the top two IOL off the board IMO.
- I haven't gotten to the tape of Jordan Elliott yet. I've heard good things, but very little. He's coming up for me though, and I'll bump him up some for you lol.
- Finally, I totally agree with the CB sentiment. I think both the WR and CB groups are really good and really deep, and I think the top 8 CBs on this board should be starters by the end of year 1.
- One final point. You didn't mention this, but in talking about depth at some positions, I wanted to mention that I think this EDGE class is very top heavy. After the top 3 (Young, Epenese, Gross-Matos), the group is very underwhelming.
Thanks again for your input!
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6 minutes ago, chad72 said:
Marlon Davidson of Auburn, I feel, is better than Julian Okwara of Notre Dame, he should be No.5 amongst DEs, IMO, he can also be moved inside and played, is more versatile.
I knew I was missing someone haha. I like Davidson, but just not that much. I'd have him as my 8th Ranked EDGE, and will go ahead and edit that in. Thanks for the name, probably forgot a few others as well.
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Walter Football is an interesting source. Half of their takes that are seen as questionable are spot on, and half of the takes that are reliable are dead wrong. I love how in depth they go with a lot of players, but its a dart throw to see if they are right or not. What people fail to realize is that Walter and Charlie DO have sources, which the average fan does not. So complaining about someone who has more knowledge on a subject is questionable, and therefore I will not complain and take it in as viable information for the time being.
However, I will say that I have a second round grade on Love, so higher than 4th round, but not quite 1st round. Nobody really knows until the draft though.
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For the first time ever, I present to the forum my own NFL Draft Big Boards. These are by position, as I have not had time to fully create an overall board yet. They will also change over time, so don't expect everything to be the same after the combine when I release my second takes along with (hopefully) an overall board. I hope you enjoy, and don't be afraid to ask questions and push for certain players that I might have too high or too low!
OFFENSE:
QBs:
Quote1) Joe Burrow, LSU
2) Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama
3) Justin Herbert, Oregon
4) Jordan Love, Utah State
5) Jacob Eason, Washington
6) Jake Fromm, Georgia
7) Anthony Gordon, Wash. State
8) Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma
9) James Morgan, Fl. Int.
10) Bryce Perkins, Virginia
RBs:
Quote1) Deandre Swift, Georgia
2) Jonathan Taylor, Wisconsin
3) J.K. Dobbins, Ohio State
4) Clyde Edwards-Helaire, LSU
5) Zack Moss, Utah
6) Cam Akers, Florida State
7) Antonio Gibson, Memphis
8) Eno Benjamin, Arizona State
9) Lamical Perine, Florida
10) A.J. Dillon, Boston College
WRs:
Quote1) Jerry Jeudy, Alabama
2) CeeDee Lamb, Oklahoma
3) Laviska Shenault Jr, Colorado
4) Jalen Reagor, TCU
5) Henry Ruggs III, Alabama
6) Tee Higgins, Clemson
7) Brandon Aiyuk, Arizona State
8) Justin Jefferson, LSU
9) K.J. Hamler, Penn State
10) Denzel Mims, Baylor
11) Michael Pittman Jr, USC
12) Chase Claypool, Notre Dame
13) Tyler Johnson, Minnesota
14) Van Jefferson, Florida
15) Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan
16) Collin Johnson, Texas
17) Antonio Gandy-Golden, Liberty
18) K.J. Hill, Ohio State
19) Isaiah Hodgins, Oregon State
20) Quintez Cephus, Wisconsin
TEs:
Quote1) Brycen Hopkins, Purdue
2) Hunter Bryant, Washington
3) Cole Kmet, Notre Dame
4) Jared Pinkney, Vanderbilt
5) Colby Parkinson, Stanford
6) Thaddeus Moss, LSU
7) Albert Okwuegbunam, Missouri
8) Adam Trautman, Dayton
9) Harrison Bryant, Florida Atlantic
10) Cheyenne O'Grady, Arkansas
OTs:
Quote1) Jedrick Wills, Alabama
2) Andrew Thomas, Georgia
3) Tristan Wirfs, Iowa
4) Mekhi Becton, Louisville
5) Austin Jackson, USC
6) Prince Tega Wanogho, Auburn
7) Lucas Niang, TCU
8) Trey Adams, Washington
9) Josh Jones, Houston
10) Jack Driscoll, Auburn
IOL:
Quote1) Solomon Kindley, Georgia
2) Shane Lemieux, Oregon
3) Lloyd Cushenberry III, LSU
4) Damien Lewis, LSU
5) Matt Hennessy, Temple
6) Ceser Ruiz, Michigan
7) Nick Harris, Washington
8) Ben Bredson, Michigan
9) Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin
10) Netane Muti, Fresno State
DEFENSE:
IDL:
Quote1) Derrick Brown, Auburn
2) Javon Kinlaw, South Carolina
3) Ross Blacklock, TCU
4) Neville Gallimore, Oklahoma
5) Raekwon Davis, Alabama
6) Justin Madubuike, Texas A&M
7) Leki Fotu, Utah
8) Rashard Lawrence, LSU
9) Larrell Murchison, NC State
10) Davon Hamilton, Ohio State
EDGE:
Quote1) Chase Young, Ohio State
2) A.J. Epenesa, Iowa
3) Yetur Gross-Matos, Penn State
4) K'Lavon Chaisson, LSU
5) Julian Okwara, Notre Dame
6) Terrell Lewis, Alabama
7) Jonathan Greenard, Florida
8) Marlon Davidson, Auburn
9) Anfernee Jennings, Alabama
10) Curtis Weaver, Boise State
LBs:
Quote1) Isaiah Simmons, Clemson
2) Patrick Queen, LSU
3) Kenneth Murray, Oklahoma
4) Troy Dye, Oregon
5) Malik Harrison, Ohio State
6) Jordyn Brooks, Texas Tech
7) Evan Weaver, California
8) Akeem Davis-Gaither, Appalachian State
9) Justin Strnad, Wake Forest
10) David Woodward, Utah State
CBs:
Quote1) Jeffery Okudah, Ohio State
2) Kristian Fulton, LSU
3) C.J. Henderson, Florida
4) Trevon Diggs, Alabama
5) Jeff Gladney, TCU
6) A.J. Terrell, Clemson
7) Damon Arnette, Ohio State
8) Cameron Dantzler, Mississippi State
9) Noah Igbinoghene, Auburn
10) Bryce Hall, Virginia
11) Jaylon Johnson, Utah
12) Troy Pride Jr, Notre Dame
13) Darnay Holmes, UCLA
14) Michael Ojemudia, Iowa
15) Lamar Jackson, Nebraska
16) Myles Bryant, Washington
17) Essang Basey, Wake Forest
18) A.J. Green, Oklahoma State
19) Lavert Hill, Michigan
20) Trajan Bandy, Miami
Safeties:
Quote1) Xavier McKinney, Alabama
2) Grant Delpit, LSU
3) Ashtyn Davis, California
4) Antoine Winfield Jr, Minnesota
5) Kyle Dugger, Lenoir-Rhyne
6) Brandon Jones, Texas
7) Jeremy Chinn, Southern Illinois
8) J.R. Reed, Georgia
9) Antoine Brooks Jr, Maryland
10) Shyheim Carter, Alabama
Once again, I hope you enjoyed, and please feel free to fight for your favorite player to move up the board. Let me know your thoughts, and I will go through and rewatch some film of everyone who is brought up by you guys! I can't wait for the Draft! GO COLTS!!!
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17 minutes ago, DougDew said:
Since Mahomes is merely average from the pocket, his bad ankle limited his ability to create his typical backyard plays, so the offense was less effective. Also Hill was not in the game, and since he is a real talent at the WR position, having a player like that creates spaces in the defense by which Mahomes' backyard plays can work.
Left with just Watkins, Kelce, and Williams, and a pocket-stuck Mahomes, they were not exceptionally tough to defend.
Also, we employed a proper offense. We sought to play keep away....instead of trying to get chunk yards a lot of the time......by using a QB who was accurate with short passes. We won, in part, because his long ball inaccuracy wasn't even relevant. Also, I think Chris Jones was either out of the game or on limited snaps because of injury.
Yet no mention of all the injuries we had against us. Both starting safeties, Darius Leonard, Tyquan Lewis, and Parris Campbell all sat, and going into the game, TY, Mack, and Rock were each questionable. Injuries weren't the reason we won. We won despite injuries.
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. It should be more laid out now. 
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Love the first three as well as the WR picks. Everything else is not spectacular but not bad either. Only thing I would want to know now is if either Antonio Gibson or AJ Dillon is still available, and if so use the round 7 pick on one of those two!