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3 minutes ago, Superman said:
I don't understand what's wrong with this deal. Great LT hits the market, he's going to reset the market.
I guess I do not think he's this good...
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4 minutes ago, Exodus said:
Raiders continue to make moves
wth are they doing? this is insane. God, I'm so happy we didn't get Gruden ...
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45 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:
Fowler got 14, Flowers will
prob get about 17
If Fowler got 14 I'm afraid Flowers might push the 20M range... WOW. I didn't expect this type of market for Fowler. My dream of getting Preston Smith for 12-13M just evaporated. Smith is a better player than Fowler and doesn't have the attitude concerns.
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First of all, thanks for the input everybody! Much appreciated.
3 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:Do you really see Ballard shelling out that type of money in FA?
4 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:Stiches, my man! I think you're cooking with gas.
Some thoughts to share. I'll get the easy one out of the way, first.
I think you're over-drafting Bobby Okereke... first, I think he's a Day 3 kid. Quality back-up. But I don't see a starter. So, why use a 3rd round pick on a position where we have Leonard? That would be his spot. He's not a Sam or a Mike. He's a Will. R5 for me.
As to Free Agency. I love the guys you're buying... but do you see Ballard buying 4 expensive players? I won't mind if he does, but I don't see him buying more than 2. One on each side of the ball. A rusher and a receiver. Four? Maybe next year.
Good effort, my friend!
I let most of our own FAs go, so I had to spend money somewhere to replace them. Then later realized KJ Wright will go for much higher amount so this mock should really be without him as I pointed out earlier.
I let Desir go, so I got a CB back... I let Gaethers go, so I got a starter SS back in Collins, I let both of Inman AND Grant go, so I got Humphries back. This is the bare minimum we should be doing. Then I added Preston Smith - pretty much everybody here assumes Ballard will probably spend some money on an EDGE and I didn't even go for the one most want and will cost the most. The rest(Fleming, Hyder) are small signings for depth/camp competition... pretty much every year Ballard has had several of those. With the exception of KJ Wright(which I later stated, I realized will not happen, so just assume he's not on the team(I cannot edit it in order to remove him)), I think it's not that out of the ordinary. We are still left with close to 45M to carry for next season.
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It's been pointed out to me that the market for KJ Wright might be MUCH higher than what I've posted here(as in more than double). If that's the case, I feel like Ballard would choose not to pursue him, thus you can assume he's not on the team...
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In my first mock I was more aggressive and it was more representative of my bias rather than in what I expect Ballard to do. This one is the mock where I would try to be closer to what I expect Ballard to actually do. So here we go...
I'm using Overthecap's Colts page for salary numbers. I'm using this article for Colts' own free agents.
I will be using spotrac's free agency tracker to find other teams' free agents and if there is market value figure listed, I will try to be close to it, unless I deem it ridiculous for one reason or another.
For the draft I will be using fanspeak's mock system. I will run it with Matt Millers board, but I will try to take players based on how I feel about the players without trying to cheat the system(for example if a player I have ranked no. 20 is there on the board at 26 and is BPA, but is ranked 77 on Miller's board I will NOT pass on him because I know I can draft him in later rounds, I would consider this cheating the system because I have information that in the real world GMs don't really have).
Starting Team Cap Space: $102,447,644
Own Free Agents:
Unrestricted FAs
Pierre Desir- I kind of think that if a deal was going to be done it would have already happened.Clayton Geathers- same... but also... look for other team's FAs in the following sections...Margus Hunt, DL - 2 year 9M 4.5 guaranteed
Dontrelle Inman, WRMike Mitchell. SS 1 year 2.5M guaranteed
Matt Slauson, OGretiredAdam Vinatieri, K 1 year 3.875M guaranteed
Mark Glowinski, OG - 3 years, 16.2M, 4.2M fully guaranteed
Najee Goode, LB
Ryan Grant, WR
Geneo Grissom, DE
Ryan Hewitt, TE
J'Marcus Webb, OT
JJ Wilcox, SS
Al Woods, DTRestricted FAs
Evan Boehm OC/OG - original-round tender(1 year/2.05M)
Mathias Farley, S - original round tender(1 year/2.05M)
Chester Rogers, WR - original round tender (1 year/2.05M)
Chris Milton -no tenderCorey Moore - no tender
Ross Travis - 1 year $645,000Exclusive rights FAs
Marcus Johnson, WR 1 year 660K
Luke Rhodes, LB/LS/ST 1 year 660K
*deals already done and included in the 102M cap calculation
---Total Spent on Own FAs: 24.99M ||| Remaining Cap Space: $92,477,644
Other Teams' FAs:
Preston Smith, DE, 26 years old. 4 years 48M(28M guaranteed, 12M fully guaranteed in the first year) - here's a young free agent coming off his rookie contract. Ex-2nd round pick. A player who's been improving every year and has shown some exciting things athletically. He is an athletic freak who will fit seamlessly into our aggressive attacking scheme(eventual replacement for Sheard)
Adam Humphries , WR 25 years old, 4 years 36M(19M guaranteed, 9M fully guaranteed 1st year). In my last mock I did mock Tyrell Williams to the Colts, but the more arguments I've heard on this board and the more I've been thinking about it Humphreys is more the type of receiver that our scheme is hungry for - a receiver who can catch short slants from the slot and get some yards after the catch. He will also be cheaper than Williams. Also... keep in mind the draft is coming shortly after FA and I like a lot of the potential outside receivers in the 2nd round range in the draft.
Landon Collins, SS, 25 year old, 4 years 40M(21M guaranteed, 10M fully guaranteed 1st year) - I've been on the record that we should either go for one of the elite safeties in FA, or we should try to sign someone from the discount bin. This is the former - a player who has excelled when put closer to the LOS, already has several pro-bowl appearances and I do think he will fit great with Malik Hooker in base backages, but can also be used as a dime linebacker in some sub-packages.
KJ Wright, LB, 29 years old... 2 years 10M (5M guaranteed, 5M first year) - here's a player who suffered 2 knee injuries last year that cut his season short(non-ACL) and IMO that's why he will have somewhat of a subdued market. I firmly believe in his talent, though. He's a versatile linebacker who excels in coverage and this is something we desperately need to put next to Darius Leonard. He allowed a 1 reception per 13 snaps in coverage last season. I think this is the best available LB help we can get that is not too old and not too expensive and is good enough to be pegged as a starter next to Leonard.
Cam Fleming, OT, 26 years old, 1 year/3M - a solid swing tackle/spot starter/depth
Justin Coleman, CB 26years old - 2years 8M (5M guaranteed, 4M 1st year) - solid CB for competition/depth... Again... he's still young too, comes from Seattle, just like Desir.
Kerry Hyder, DE/DT, 27 years old - 1 year, 1M - he had a great season with 8 sacks in 2016 as a rotational pass-rusher for Detroit but he tore his Achilles tendon in pre-season in what was supposed to be his breakout season in 2017. He returned to action the second half of last season but was used mainly as an interior lineman on passing downs. This is me taking a shot at a guy who had shown to have high potential in the past and hoping that being one more season removed from his injury will see him return to his previous form.
So here we go
---Total Spent on Other Teams' FAs: $46M ||| Remaining Cap Space: $46,477,644
And here comes the draft...
Round 1. Pick 26 Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame... I LOVED him on tape! And he performed great at the combine. There are rumors about scouts having concerns about his focus on football(i.e. he is a smart person and he has interests outside of football), but I don't know how to assess that. All I can do is watch what I see and what I see I'm liking a lot. He is one of the best interior pass-rushers I've seen in this draft. He has great power and explosiveness in his hands and has natural quickness that gives a ton of trouble to offensive linemen. He has it all as a prospect - the physical tools and length, the athleticism and some OK technical basis from which to build on. Just put the Stanford tape if you want to see the best defensive lineman game of the season. Yah, I said it. It wasn't Wilkins or Bosa or Josh Allen, or Quinnen Williams that had the best game of the season IMO... it was Tillery and he might have single-handedly tanked the stock of a solid prospect like Nate Herbig on the Stanford OLine.
Round 2. Pick 34, Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State. Well, here's to hoping. I feel like after the combine he will be gone in the first, but I hope you allow me this slight optimistic outcome. People who have followed the WR threads around here know about my crush on Butler and I don't know if I have to say much more. He is a natural X-receiver with immense size and great athleticism for his size. He will never be a natural lateral separator because his huge frame makes him lack the required agility, but he does have the physicality, "that's my ball" mentality and straight line speed to win on the outside. He can also be used as a mismatch weapon on the inside or in stacked formations that force smaller defenders to jump for the ball with him (6'6" with huge wingspan vs nickel corners that are usually under 6'0"... guess who I'm taking in those matchups?)
Round 2. Pick 59 Sean Bunting, CB, Central Michigan - after he put up a good combine I have watched several games of his this week. He's very interesting prospect and has the traits that get corners drafted high. Long(although a bit lanky), has great movement skills mirroring opponents, smooth transitions, seamless flip of the hips. Can and should get stronger/add a bit of bulk in order to be better help in run defense/getting of blocks, but that's why you are getting him here and not in the 1st round. He has good instincts in zone coverage. Great ball-skills - seeks the ball and competes for it, doesn't wait for it to come to the receiver to disrupt the reception - has 9 career interceptions and 15 PDs.
Round 3, pick 89 Bobby Okereke, LB, Stanford - Good size, LONG hands... similar to Darius Leonard last year. Playmaker... similar to Darius Leonard. Fills the stat-sheet... similar to Darius Leonard. Great movement skills, doesn't hesitate to lay a hit on opponents, although might need to get a bit stronger. Great vision when the DLine clears his path to the ballcarier. Great read and react ability. Sometimes takes bad angles in the open field... but then again... this is why he's here in the 3d.
Round 4, pick 128 Dru Samia, OG, Oklahoma - solid guard prospect with some versatility and good movement (has played some tackle in Oklahoma)
Round 4, pick 135 Rodney Anderson, RB, Oklahoma... he keeps falling to this place in most mocks I see. I guess it's understandable because of his injury, but I cannot let him fall any further. IMO had he stayed healthy he would be a 1st-2nd round RB with speed, ability to make people miss and ability to catch the ball. IMO he's a complete RB prospect... if you can get him healthy.
Round 5, pick 165 Foster Moreau, TE, LSU - Long athletic TE, who was a victim of LSU's horrific passing game and bad QB play for the last 4 years. IMO there is untapped potential there.
Round 6, pick 200 Hunter Renfrow, WR, Clemson - great hands, good router runner. Slot receiver in our rotation.
Round 7, pick 242 Will Harris, S, Boston College... athletic safety, probably better around the box, doesn't make plays on the ball... take a shot on his athleticism.
---Total Spent on Draftees: $8M ||| Remaining Cap Space: $38,477,644
Depth chart:
Offense:
QB: Andrew Luck, Jacoby Brissett, Phillip Walker
RB: Marlon Mack, Rodney Anderson, Nyheim Hines, Jordan Wilkins
WR1: TY Hilton, Zach Pascal, Daurice Fountain, Steve Ishmael
WR2: Hakeem Butler, Deon Cain, Marcus Johnson, Krishawn Hogan
Slot: Adam Humphries, Chester Rogers, Hunter Renfrow, James Wright, Jordan Veasy
TE1: Jack Doyle, Mo Alie-Cox, Billy Brown
TE2: Eric Ebron, Ross Travis, Foster Moreau
LT: Anthony Castonzo, Cam Fleming, , Antonio Garcia
LG: Quenton Nelson, Dru Samia
OC: Ryan Kelly, Evan Boehm
RG: Mark Glowinski, Joe Haeg
RT: Braden Smith, Le'Raven Clark, De'Ondre Wesley
Deffense:
LDE: Jabaal Sheard, Denico Autry, Jihad Ward, Al-Quadin Muhammad
DT: Jerry Tillery, Grover Stewart, Hassan Ridgeway
3T: Margus Hunt, Tyquan Lewis, Kerry Hyder, DeShawn Williams
RDE: Preston Smith, Kemoko Turay, Carroll Phillips
WILL: Darius Leonard, Bobby Okereke, Anthony Winbush
MIKE: KJ Wright, Anthony Walker Jr., Skai Moore
SAM: Matthew Adams, Zaire Franklin
SS: Landon Collins, Mike Mitchell, Will Harris, Isaiah Johnson, Ahmad Thomas
FS: Malik Hooker, Mathias Farley, George Odum, Rolan Milligan
RCB: Quincy Wilson, Jalen Collins
LCB: Justin Coleman, Sean Bunting, D.J. Killings
Slot: Kenny Moore II, Nate Hairston
Special teams:
LS: Luke Rhodes
P: Rigoberto Sanchez
K: Adam Vinatieri*names in green are rookies
**names in red are new FAs
I probably need more work on the CBs but... oh well... it is what it is... FA legal tampering starts soon so, I didn't have much time remaining.
Any thoughts and critique are welcome. Cheers everybody
(also, I used my last mock as a skeleton for this one, so it's possible that there are remnants of it remaining on this one, if you see something that doesn't make sense(like if I've mentioned a player in the depth chart that we didn't acquire), please don't hesitate to tell me, so I can correct it)
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28 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
Everybody had the Kitchens to the Colts rumor. There was likely some truth in it.
You don't know if the KC offer he accepted was came late and surprised us. You don't know if he was one of the players who turned us down because he was unsure about the future of Andrew Luck?
Getting a report like that wrong isn't the worst thing imaginable. But if you get TOO MANY such reports wrong, THEN you have a credibility problem. Like Jason LaConfora. Doesn't mean everything he says is wrong. But too high a percentage for many here....
Yeah, that's not the only one. He has numerous obviously false reports. There was a OBJ to Oakland rumor from him last year, there was Suh to Colts rumor last year, etc... in general he throws a lot of things at the wall and waits to see if anything sticks. He was also the one that put the Brissett to Miami rumor out this month.
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2 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:
Never heard of Chad Forbes. He credible?
Not very.
2 hours ago, Boiler_Colt said:Not really, he's just another Draft talking head on twitter. He tries to connect dots but doesnt have any inside info usually.
Yah... seems like he makes stuff up regularly. There was an article somewhere about all the made up stuff/connecting dots he posts about. Also reporters with some actual reputation have called him out on his 'reporting'.. he seems like NFL draft's Brad Wells:
Also I just checked and I'm ashamed to say I've posted stuff from him in the past when I didn't know about his reputation, too... like the Anthony Hitchens to Colts rumor... which turned false too.
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http://draftanalyst.com/pro-day-report-colorado-state-colorado
QuoteSafety Evan Worthington, who also participated in the Shrine Game and worked out at the combine, timed the 40 between 4.55 and 4.59 before his hamstring tightened up. That’s a major improvement from his official combine time of 4.63 seconds.
It should be noted Worthington completed everything at the combine and timed 7.07 in the three-cone.
He’s drawing a lot of interest from the Houston Texans, Tennessee Titans and Indianapolis Colts. The New Orleans Saints, Dallas Cowboys and Green Bay Packers also spent time with Worthington during pro day.
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If we are not targeting an elite player at the position(Collins, Earl Thomas - yes I actually think I would love him with us, even though he's played single high so far for Seattle) I'd rather we go over the scrap heap and get the best player we can from the leftovers of free agency. We saw last year how very good players were still available for practically free in the middle of the season.
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I just listened to The Draft Show podcast(it's a Dallas Cowboys centric draft podcast but they do cover the draft as a whole and they do have some of the better analysts in the game like Dane Brugler(who BTW seems to know Chris Ballard) and an ex-NFL scout like Brian Broaddus on). So they played out a scenario in which the Cowboys and DeMarcus Lawrence try to reach an agreement on a long-term contract but they are so far off on the terms that things sour between the two parties to the point where Dallas decides they are willing to trade Lawrence.
You can hear the segment here at 44:15: https://www.dallascowboys.com/audio/draft-show-combine-winners-losers-d-law-s-trade-value
They think the Mack trade set the market and they do not think they can get the same Oakland got for him so they end up on an offer of #26 and #59 from the Colts for DeMarcus Lawrence. If this deal becomes available, would you do it? You would have to give Lawrence a big contract (lets say 5/100 with 60M guaranteed) too.
If not, what's the maximum you would be willing to give up?
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I'm not alone anymore!!! Hurray! I just listened to Ross Tucker's podcast with my favorite NFL analyst Greg Cosell and they talked about the WR position of this draft - very good listen... you can find it here:
https://www.podcastone.com/episode/RTFP-1008-Greg-Cosell
He seems to love Butler and is not overly impressed by Harmon.
Highlights about players by Greg Cosell(those are his words so when you see 'I' in here it means Greg Cosell and his opinion):
DK Metcalf - big physically explosive athlete. He ran by off coverage, straight line player at this point of his career. Not refined route runner. Doesn't come out of breaks smoothly or cleanly just yet. Rounds off his routes. Depending on the pass-game concept that might not be a big problem(cited the greatest show on turf as an example of an offense that you can do that). Defeats press coverage by his size and strength. Not many receivers with his HWS profile - will probably get him drafted high. Has the traits to be a threat on all 3 levels of the defense. Comparison - Josh Gordon, Mike Evans. Ross Tucker brought up TO as a comparison.
AJ Brown - interesting guy. There is savvy and refinement to his game when it comes to his route running. In the slot almost exclusively until game 8 this season and this was big for him when they moved him outside and he showed ability to win outside. He's not overly athletic but he checks a lot of boxes - route running savvy, hands. competitive toughness. The more I watched him the more I liked him.
Marquise Brown - slight built. Similar to Desean Jackson and TY Hilton in his vertical explosiveness. Game breaking speed. Maybe not volume receiver. He will line up all over the formation. Will present matchup issues for opponents. Speed and space receiver.
Kelvin Harmon - natural toughness, physically competitive, big body. More measured, not explosive, a little stiff, upright, not fluid. Question is whether he can consistently separate and win against good NFL man coverage. He's not a burst guy, not a speed guy. Not sure about Kelvin Harmon['s transition to NFL]. Size, hands, body control receiver. Can he be someone like Alshon Jeffery?
N'Keal Harry - ran better than I thought. Presents that hands, size, body control, contested catch profile that a lot of X receivers in the NFL are about. Great awareness on the boundary, terrific ball skills, not explosive... great runs after catch but not an explosive... more of a big strong body type of receiver. New NFL emphasizes short passes - I don't think he moves as well as Michael Thomas, but can he be used in a similar way?
Riley Ridley - I like Ridley a lot. Traits exceeded production. has the desired combination of size, length and movement. Very good feel for how to run routes and defeat both on and off man coverage. Combine test not great but he showed refined sense as a route runner, very detailed, understands how to attack the leverage of corners and to create separation at the top of his route stems.Andy Isabella - a lot of fun to watch and then he runs 4.31... He's both quick AND fast. He has suddenness to his short area movement, he's also got the speed to run past the defense. He plays fast, he plays explosively. Even though they have different strengths(strength vs speed) can he be used in a similar way to how Pats use Edelman? I think it's easy to stereotype him as a pure slot receiver, but in today's NFL he can probably line up both on the inside and on the outside(comparison - Gabriel). He can be a movement receiver, they will motion him, he will be in the slot or outside... fascinated by his tape.
Then Ross Tucker asked him if he wants to talk about anybody else in this draft class? JJAW? Emanuel Hall? Dillon Mitchell? And Cosell was like... no, no... I will give you someone else - Hakeem Butler.
Hakeem Butler - I really liked him on tape. 6'5 3/8, 227, 4.49, 36" vertical. Fascinating combination of size, stride length, hands, pretty fluid for a guy of his size. Classic X-receiver, but he can also be a matchup problem in the conventional slot, in the inside slot of trips formations[my note here - Reich runs a ton of those]. In current NFL X-iso boundary receivers are critical to passing games. You get a lot of man coverage against X-iso receiver and I think Butler with experienced coaching can really fill that role effectively. What's the knock on him? Some people feel he had too many drops, but I wouldn't say he has bad hands. Maybe I will be totally wrong, but I think this kid is fascinating.
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1 hour ago, twfish said:
Soooooo you like Hakeem Butler? Haha it's okay my view on D.K has been very different then most, we all see different things different ways. Just like how for me Harmon appears to be the most polished pro ready WR in this class. I havent watched hardly any of butlers tape so I cant judge to harshly. I am also looking at the WR that I think will compliment t.y and this offense, I dont want another Dorsett type so I havent really looked at the smaller speedsters
The problem of Dorsett was not that he was a small speedster. it was that he was not a good small speedster. Neither of us will turn down a small speedster like... Tyreek Hill for example. Who do you consider small speedster in this draft? Marquise Brown and Andy Isabella? Both of them have much better production than Dorsett did in college. Have you watched Parris Campbell? He's not exactly small, but he's not big either(6'0" 205) and he's a speedster.
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Here's a nice article on this year's receivers group divided in X, Z, slot and big slot receivers from The Draft Network:
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/breaking-the-2019-wide-receiver-class-into-nfl-roles
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6 minutes ago, twfish said:
Yea you and I see so differently on him it's not worth arguing over haha.
What I will say is that you are not in a bad company. A lot of draft analysts whose opinion I respect are with you on Harmon(at least were before the combine, I don't know about now). So I'm kind of alone on this one so it's very possible I'm wrong. I tried to see what others do, but every time I put on the tape of him I'm thinking... oh look... imagine if he was 3 inches taller, he'd be like Hakeem Butler... oh look... he's kinda slow... imagine if he was much faster he would be like Hakeem Butler... oh look... he caught a tough ball but didn't get any yards after the catch... imagine if the was Hakeem Butler, he could have taken it all the way to the end zone... etc.
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15 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:
If the bolded is true, then we should get a compensatory pick for him next year as long as we don't sign too many FA's. I believe we'll re-sign Geathers still, but we'll see.
I don't think there is much of a chance we get compensatory picks. We will probably spend more money for outside FAs than we lose.
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11 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
Is N’Harry even on your draftable list at all? Surprised not to see his name in your post.
People say he had a very good Combine and answered questions about a perceived weakness.... speed and athketicism.
Your thought?
Oh I like Harry(he's on the list under the code name... Harry
). I was kind of disappointed watching him against Stanford, but that was not one of his better games and he did play against what I consider a great CB talent in Paulson Adebo. I think he's a good value in the second round(if he drops there). He's great after the catch and he can make people miss as well as just truck over a couple defenders to get the tough yards and move the sticks. He is also pretty good tracking the ball and fighting for it in the air.
His combine was pretty much what I expected - his explosiveness scores were off the charts(27 bench press reps, 38.5" vertical and 122" broad jump). his speed which was one of the questions for him, was good enough(4.53 40 yard dash). He did not do the agility tests and IMO he's one of the players whose representatives know what they are doing and they knew he wouldn't test great there so he just skipped them. But his game doesn't suggest he has great agility so that wouldn't have been a surprise to me. In general he checked the boxes he needed to check for me to still consider him high level prospect.
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1 hour ago, twfish said:
Have you watched J.J yet? I cant recall a receiver attack the ball like that. I was disappointed in Harmons R.A.S score so much so that it took him out of #26 consideration for me. I don't believe that score to be a end all be all, but it definitely has an impact and shows itself well. That being said at #34 I'm all in on him as long as we didnt take another wr in the first
I was never enamored by Harmon and I never saw what most others did. He was pretty much a worse, smaller and less athletic version of Hakeem Butler for me without the YAC ability Butler has. I have about 7-8 receivers ahead of him in this draft. I would pick Metcalf, Butler, Deebo, AJ Brown, Harry, Campbell, JJ Arcega Whiteside, Hollywood Brown if he was healthy... probably even Andy Isabella ... ahead of Harmon.
BTW...
Fairly disappointing pro-day for Preston Williams:
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2 hours ago, NFLfan said:
It would be interesting to check how one's relative athletic score (RAS) compared to how well one performed in the NFL. I recall that many here downgraded Orlando Brown after the Combine last year because he could not bench press. He probably had a low RAS. However, based on PFF rankings, he was among the best OL his first season.
We have to remember that there are outliers in any set. You will always have outliers one way or the other - horrible testers becoming good players or excellent testers becoming bad players. The latter is not that surprising, because a lot of positions rely on much more than athleticism. The thing that surprises is exactly the situation you are giving - a player whose athleticism should render him useless, because even though not everything is athleticism in the league, there is some minimum level which if you cannot cover, it makes it extremely hard to compete against the best of the best.
I have not followed Orlando Brown specifically this season. PFF gives him rating of 66.2 which slots him in the 'above average' range for PFF grades. This by all measurements is a much better performance than his testing would indicate. I would love to learn what's the story behind it. Did he lose weight? Get in better shape? Etc.? Or is he just THIS good technically and processing-wise that his deficiencies don't matter?
On your question. RAS has high correlation coefficient with draft position so I would assume it also correlates with success in the league. It also has high correlation coefficient with sack production for pass-rushers and even rushing production for RBs. This is not exactly surprising - if you filter out any other trait, the more athletic players will produce better on average than the less athletic players.
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Something I wanted to point out. As you can see from the lists it seems like big portion of the players tested 'above average'(much more than is expected by pure chance). This is interesting and worth mentioning. Maybe part of it is the players having better preparation for the tests in the last several years... but also... a lot of the players with questions about certain aspects of their athleticism refused to do the tests that test this aspect of their athleticism. If they did test and did badly(as expected), their relative athletic score would have dropped and we would have had more players slotting into a 'below average' range of scores.
Anyways, just wanted to put a pin on this interesting aspect of the tests this year - players and their representatives are getting smarter about the way they handle the combine and they do decide to show off their athleticism and hide their deficiencies in the precise ways that will benefit them.
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Tampering is upon us!
in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk
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FAKE account. This is NOT Schefter.