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    Reitz vs Good

    in Colts Football

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    I say it will be Good, he has all the size and skills to be a long term RT.

    Remember he was just a rookie from Mars last year. If he was in the draft this year I'd suggest he would be an earlier draft pick.

    EZEKIEL ELLIOTT

    in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk

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    2 hours ago, OffensivelyPC said:

    If he was BPA at 18, I question this organizations front office from the top down.  About the only time, IMO, where a 1st round pick on an RB (and for Colts, especially after Trent) is when it is one of maybe one or two truly missing pieces.  The Panthers, for instance, could justify taking an RB in the first round.  They'd probably be better served taking maybe a wideout or DB, depending on who was there, but that's neither here nor there.

    What?

    I would question everyone from top to bottom scout if he was not BPA in our board at 18.

    Your 2016 Draft Unpopular Opinion Thread

    in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk

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    21 minutes ago, Gavin said:

    http://www.macon.com/sports/college/university-of-georgia/bulldogs-beat/article30285420.html

     

    http://www.fieldstforum.com/2015/08/03/will-floyd-play-more-ilb-than-olb/

     

    This pretty well ends the discussion of why Floyd was moved around so much, From Mark Richt and the d coordinator

    I believe game films say otherwise and my concerns on him as the 18th pick as an edge rusher are justified. 

    Heres a fair read on Floyd.

    2016 NFL Draft: Leonard Floyd fails to deliver at Georgia pro day

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    Rob Rang  / The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com
     
    March 16, 2016 09:24 PM
     

    Georgia's 6-foot-6, 244-pound edge rusher Leonard Floyd captured the imagination of every defensive coordinator in the NFL last month at the combine in exactly 4.60 seconds.

    Floyd's surprisingly speedy 40-yard dash time was reinforced with an eye-popping 39.5-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-7 broad jump in Indianapolis, proving the raw explosiveness which helped Floyd lead the Bulldogs in sacks the past three years was quantifiable.

    Before scouts could get too excited, however, Floyd pulled his hamstring in Indianapolis, abruptly ending his workout.

    Eager to see the projected first-round pick (and the rest of a talented class of Bulldogs) perform these same drills, representatives of all 32 teams attended Georgia's pro day on Wednesday. Among the noteworthy attendees were NFL headliners like Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, Billshead coach Rex Ryan, Giants general manager Jerry Reese and a sizeable contingent from the "hometown" Falcons, including general manager Thomas Dmitroff and head coach Dan Quinn.

    The A-list crowd, unfortunately, was again left wanting more from Floyd.

    After initially creating some buzz by weighing in four pounds heavier than he did in Indianapolis last month, Floyd surprised scouts by opting not to participate in the bench press (he didn't do the bench in Indianapolis, either) and later leaving his positional workout early because of stomach issues.

    "It wasn't an injury," Floyd told D. Orlando Ledbetter of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "It was more that I ate something for breakfast, and I had a messed-up stomach. I couldn't keep going."

    In between, Floyd was clocked at 4.32 seconds in the short shuttle and 7.18 seconds in the 3-cone. These are times which would have ranked among the best amid pass rushers tested in Indianapolis.

    "Look, he's a very good football player and very athletic. He's got the size and the arm length, and has a lot of what people are looking for," Dimitroff said, according to Jason Butt of Macon.com. "Unfortunately, we didn't get to see a full workout here."

    The inability to finish a second workout could be seen as a bit of a red flag to scouts, especially given that Floyd comes with plenty of question marks already.

    While boasting the length (including 33 1/8-inch arms) and quick-twitch athleticism to harass quarterbacks as an edge rusher, Floyd's relatively spindly frame and lack of ideal functional strength make him a potential liability in the running game.

    Further, while Floyd's opportunities to rush the quarterback dropped as he was moved all over Georgia's defense, he simply wasn't as productive as his hype suggests. The 6.5 sacks Floyd recorded as a redshirt freshman dropped to six in 2014 and to just 4.5 last season.

    The NFL is a sucker for edge rushers, and with private visits already set up with the Raiders and Colts in the next 10 days (according to Butt), Floyd won't have to wait long before his next opportunity to prove he deserves to be a first-round pick.

    Among other highlights from the Georgia Pro Day:

    • While Floyd's unique traits generated more attention at Georgia, fellow edge rusher Jordan Jenkins was the more productive player throughout much of their respective careers together. As such, perhaps it wasn't surprising that Jenkins again came up big while Floyd faltered. The 6-foot-3, 257-pound Jenkins improved in the vertical jump (38 inches), broad jump (10 feet, 3 inches) and bench press (19) and also had a strong positional workout, I'm told.
    • Given that he recorded the fastest 40-yard dash time of any skill-position player invited to the combine, scouts didn't expect running back Keith Marshall to do many of the timed drills on Wednesday but he showed zip changing directions in the 3-cone (6.98 seconds) and while running through positional drills, and he caught the ball cleanly.
    • Georgia's other two potential top-100 picks -- offensive tackle John Theus and wide receiver Malcolm Mitchell -- each elected to sit on their combine workout results and performed only positional drills. Scouts are quite familiar with these two long-time starters and Senior Bowl participants and were pleased, I'm told, with how each competed during their portion of the workout.

     

     

    Leonard Floyd left scouts wanting more at Georgia's pro day. (USATSI)

    Leonard Floyd left scouts wanting more at Georgia's pro day. (USATSI)

     

     

     

    Your 2016 Draft Unpopular Opinion Thread

    in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk

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    11 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

    I think Floyd will be special and has a chance to be the best pass rusher in this class.

     

    Noah Spence=Johnathan Newsome. He'll be a 8 sack a year guy at best. And he'll fall out of the first round.

    Floyd wasn't the best on his team, that would be Jordan Jenkins. We should target Jenkins in the 3rd and jump all over Spence if he drops to 2nd as you say he will.

     

    I like Floyd but very concerned with his lack of desire to be

    physical. I think it's his lean frame. I know he fattened up for weigh ins but so did a lot of other tweeners such Gregory and others from last year but they lost the weight once drafted. Floyd also is having trouble finishing pro day & combine already because of one thing or another. That's scary.

    5 round mock

    in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk

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    27 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

    The most sacks Spence had at OSU was 8.5. Then he went to EKU and got 13.5. Just to put things into perspective. Floyd was also moved around everywhere. Didn't spend as much time rushing the passer as the other top guys.

    Spence 7.5 sacks got them in 13 games at OSU, Floyd was about 5 avg per 13 game season thru 3 years.

    Jordan Jenkins was the bigger threat at Georgia over Floyd. He had the same production sacks and better in TFL. He was much more often the one that was doubled and set edge better. I'd love to see the Colts get him in the 2-3 rd.

     

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