Bad Morty
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The "fumbling" stat is kind of silly. It presumes that "fumbling" is a random occurence that should be expected to fall within a bell curve. That's nonsense. This is like putting a chart out there that shows that the Patriots or the Packers throw far fewer interceptions than "the norm" as though it was random and had nothing to do with the fact that the guy's doing the passing were simply better players and better coached on not throwing interceptions.
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Actually many scientists agree that Belichick's explanation is plausible, especially in light of the reports that Kravitz and Mortensen may have gotten incorrect information regarding how deflated the balls actually were. This story is starting to fall apart.
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Tom Curran has also crawled out from under his rock citing Irsay's drug issue , and the Ravens Ray Rice issue to Deflategate. I don't think we need to remind Mr. Curran that the two examples he cited were personnel or personal issues, versus a team once again trying to gain a competitive advantage and skirt rules. You guys up in Boston just keep blaming everyone but Belichick and Brady. Read the rules Tommy- boy !
What are your thoughts on the reports coming out now that the balls weren't 2 PSI too low and all but one of them was within a range where weather would completely explain the drop? Interestingly enough, the only ball now being reported to be 2 PSI too low is the one the Colts had possession of for most of the first half.
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And the back-pedaling begins...looks like Kravitz' sources may not have been all that great
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/25/nfl-bears-plenty-of-blame-for-deflategate/
So now, the balls were all closer to 11.5 and the notion that the league actually tried to conduct a "sting" to catch the Pats red-handed is becoming more and more credible. Wow. What a cluster.
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I'm pretty sure that's not the first time DQ ever touched a football. Just saying.
It doesn't take a genius to notice a football feeling deflated anyway.
Which makes you wonder how the refs didn't notice this, since they handle the football on every snap of every game and also had the advantage of handling the fully inflated Colts balls for comparison. Why do you suppose they didn't notice it? Also, since the allegation apparently occured in the first half, when the game was still close and there was no significant rain, I wonder why the Patriots looked so much better in the 2nd half, when the rain got heavy and after the officials had been put on notice about potentially deflated balls?
I fully understand the compulsive need to believe in stories like this for fans of other teams, but again I'll say it - this is an incredibly flimsy accusation that requires a whole lot of logic to be cast aside in order to buy in to it.
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Only if it is a significant difference. The fact he hasn't had an interception lends credence to him being able to catch that ball. But don't be native to think he never touches a football at all.
That just doesn't make a ton of sense. It was a poor throw right to him. He caught it. I would expect a starting NFL defensive player on a team in the Conference Championship game to make that catch under almost any circumstance. You all watched the game. It's not as if the balls looked visibly deflated, and as stated many times they obviously weren't deflated enough for the refs to notice anything. So essentially, this entire controversy comes down to the word of one defensive player who doesn't routinely handle game balls. It's a pretty flimsy case and I think anyone with an ounce of objectivity would agree. But I fully expect that when the league exonerates the Pats this will all shift into "league cover-up" mode rather than the far more likely scenario that the defensive player was simply mistaken or possibly had an axe to grind against an opponent that had embarrassed his team twice before and was well on its way to making it 3 in a row.
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I looked at the Colts stats for the year and saw that D'Qwell Jackson had exactly ZERO interceptions this year. Does it make one iota of sense that a guy who apparently never gets his hands on a football is going to be able to notice what would be a pretty subtle difference in the air pressure inside a football while the referees who have handled balls on every snap of every game they've ever officiated didn't notice this? I'm sorry, but this duck just doesn't fly.
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But really, why is there always a headline with Pats and cheating?. Is it really that everyone outside Pats nation are not very knowledgable?. I am sure there is a possibility.
It's sour grapes. What the Patriots have achieved over the past 15 years in a league that is set up specifically to make it difficult to sustain long term success (salary cap and draft) is unprecedented. Fans of other teams want what the Patriots have, and they hate that they can't have it. That tends to leave people with no other option than to try to smear and stain them any way possible...claiming that perfectly legal formations are "cheating" or "not in the spirit of fair play"...claiming that shenanigans with the air pressure in footballs took place during a 45-7 rout...it starts to get outright crazy after a while. And judging from reading this thread, it seems like phase II of this will be "The NFL is covering it up" when this dries up with no substantiation. So if you are a Pats hater, there is always something to hang your hat on if you are pre-disposed to believing they cheat to win.
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You congratulate a team trying to score with a long pass up 38 with 5 minutes left ? Get a backbone.
So just to be clear - having watched Seattle erase a 12 point deficit with under 5 minutes to play, largely because Green Bay played ultra conservatively, you think Belichick should have "called off the dogs" with a spot in the Super Bowl on the line? Okie dokie...."running up the score" in a professional football game is a dumb accusation even if we are talking about week 2 of the season. These guys are highly paid professional athletes. If you don't want the score "run up" on you, then here's an idea: stop them from scoring!! But to make this accusation in the freakin' League Championship game, particularly after what we witnessed in the early game? That's crazy talk.
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What about when the Pats steamrolled our D other games? Guess they used deflated balls then too.
I'm being sarcastic. It's actually one of the most laughable things I've ever read. In case you haven't noticed the pattern here over the past many years, it goes like this:
1) Patriots defeat team in playoffs
2) Defeated team complains that there was cheating
It's pretty sad, actually. This thread is pages long with fans assuming that a wild and unsubstantiated accusation is truth. Lol.
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People that think it has nothing to do with the game aren't thinking it thru completely. It has plenty to do with giving us the ball first and Lucks passes being batted at the line or overthrown. That's why we are here. .
Wait - isn't the accusation that the Pats were using a less inflated ball while the Colts were using a normal regulation ball? So how does that have anything to do with Luck's passes being batted down? He was in theory using a regulation ball. The advantage would be to the Pats' offense, because the deflated ball made the transfer from Brady to Blount more smooth, which is why Blount was able to gain 150 yards rushing.
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Help me out with the logic here...in the prior week, against a team with a proven track record of being a tough matchup, a team that has actually gone to Foxborough and beaten the Patriots in the past, and in frigid temps where this "deflated ball" trick would have been clearly advantageous, no accusations of it were made.
Fast forward to yesterday, in balmy conditions where it only briefly rained significantly over a short stretch in the 2nd half and playing against a team that they have crushed by 20+ points every time they've played them, primarily on the strength of their running attack where the air pressure of the ball makes no difference...THAT'S the game that Belichick decides to resort to deflating the ball and risking another hit to his reputation?
That really doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speculation Thread: What do you think happened at Deflategate? (Merge)
in NFL General
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Sure...
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/01/26/scientists-agree-that-football-will-lose-air-pressure-when-moved-cooler-place/2KfFPHn9dARXXCwMgBMSkO/story.html