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Shipped to his house in his wifes name?
LOL.
What some ppl will say to get their 15 minutes of fame.....I gotta call nonsense for now.
On the other hand, that could explain the huge forehead muscles...
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Giants also had a pick that was dropped. Better to be lucky than good I guess.
He should of used one hand, and pressed it against his helmet
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Halloween...
oh wait..you mean your coach....
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Don't worry guys. The Patriots will suck eventually. Then we can lay the beat down
Funny..I remember when the Pats sucked....the ironic part is, Indy was pretty much in the basement with us
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I think they usually come here to read my posts.
I thought you were the stalker....not me????
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I dont see the pats being as much a powerhouse, but that the other traditional strong teams have taken a step back. All the teams mentioned in this thread from the AFC can on any given day, beat the pats (or any other AFC team for that matter). The pats, to date, just have been more consistent then the Colts or the Bronco's and Ravens, and healthier then the Steelers.
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They hope its just a sprain. Mediots are reporting 4 weeks. Hope he' good to go asap.
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When you are down by 25 some points, and try a fake punt inside your own 40..
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Luck may be the last of a dying breed. Of all the highly touted QB's to come out of college lately, I dont see the Bradys, Mannings, Roethlisberger out there anymore. I'm not talking talent per se, but emotional maturity combined with talent. Luck may or may not stay with Indy for a career, but him and Wilson may be one of the last true "franchise" QB's.
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Maybe if he didnt suck for 3/4 of the game, he wouldnt have to mount the comebacks.....
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You're slicing and dicing "cheating" into micromanagement, as it were two different things. It's not. Neither are the penalties for such infractions based upon the Commissioner's discretion of fines, games, draft picks, et.al.
My take of the judge asking that question is different then yours and others I think. I dont think the judge was saying they were different. In the NFL's brief, they compared the two. I see the judge looking at that, and as judges to, play devils advocate. He asked the NFL defend their position that it was. If they could (I dont know if they did or not), then he may accept that argument. If they could not, then he would have to consider that in his decision also.
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I understand all that. However, I'll pose a question to you and all Patriot fans who side with the notion that only a fine should be inflicted upon Brady.
Why do you think the NFL and the Commissioner destroyed all evidence of SpyGate? (it's relative to DeFlateGate 100%)
After seeing the circus that has become Deflategate...its because The Commissioner is a clueless clown and has no idea what he is doing. Conspiracy theorists will say it was to protect the patriots. At one time, I may of listened to that argument, as it was a possibility that could be at least debated.
Now I think it was just absolute incompetence.
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Well, no one has answered my question. I think the general consensus from all of us is, we'll think the judges decision is great if it goes the way we want, and a crock if it doesn't. That's how I feel, and at least I'm honest about it.
The appeal is based mostly on technicalities of the process the NFL employed in upholding the suspension. It probably wont touch on if Brady did or did not "do it". I dont suspect it will change anyones minds. They are pretty much made up at this point.
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Do I dare wade in?
IMHO, I would love for the judge to put the whole thing on hold. Order the NFL to use a court appointed service to record PSI levels before/halftime/after each game, then reconvene after the season. If the data then shows that the measurements from the AFCCG were still abnormal, uphold the suspension and fine. If after a season of data, its within the dataset collected, allow the NFL to graciously reconsider its position.
Bradys not retiring next year. He'd still pay if the data does not support him.
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Naaa ... I think you're wrong again. I'm looking at their present cap situation and even if you take the McCourtney signing off the books , they would still be at 133 mill as we speak. Add 20 mill for Revis and they are over .. even with the extra money they rolled over. I think they "could" have done it if they chose to do that. Extend Solder , cut Mayo, and probably wait on DM.
Here is a great explanation..
t's clarify: Darrelle Revis is still an elite cornerback, if not the best cornerback in the league. He was a key member of the Patriots Super Bowl team and his impact and output won't soon be forgotten.
But after looking at the Jets offer, the Patriots had no chance to keep Revis. He was gone.
When the Jets said they'd open up the pocketbook to sign Revis, they weren't bluffing. They gave him the entire bank vault.
New York offered a five year deal, valued at $70 million, with $39 million fully guaranteed, no ifs, ands, or buts. He gets that money if he's injured. He gets that money if he's cut. That $39 million is all his. His base salary is $16 million, $17 million, and $14 million over the next three seasons.
This is why the Patriots balked.
New England structures their deals with signing bonuses in order to spread the cap hit across the life of the contract, while also putting in protection language that would require the player to be on the roster at the start of each league year. It's this protection language that caused the divide between Revis and the Patriots to grow- he wanted his money with no strings attached, which the Patriots couldn't offer, but the Jets were more than willing to provide.
According to PatsCap, if the Patriots tried to match the Jets "pay as you go" contract structure, Revis' cap hit would be $21 million due to the $16 million base salary, plus the $5 million outstanding from last season's signing bonus.
The Patriots currently have $13.6 million in cap space, per PatsCap, which would mean the Patriots would have to free up a minimum of $2.4 million in cap space to match the Jets offer, while leaving the Patriots at major risk if Revis were to be injured. This would also leave the Patriots with no cap space to fill any holes opened by freeing up the $2.4 million in cap space.
For reference, Dont'a Hightower accounts for $2.5 million in cap space. This is some crucial cap space.
The cap hit would also stand at $17 million next season, when the Patriots will have to address potential contract extension for Chandler Jones, Dont'a Hightower, Nate Solder, Jamie Collins, and other key members of the roster.
The Patriots would never have exposed themselves to such a high level of guaranteed money with no strings attached. They shouldn't be expected to, either, if they want to field a team with the depth required of every championship roster.
Revis will forever be remembered for his 2014 season, but there's no way the Patriots were going to match the Jets offer.
It was ~doable~..but at what price.
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I heard we're taking the $$ we saved, and signing the ref from the superbowl...
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Useful to say? There is nothing left to say till the investigation is over. This back and forth can go on forever and all it does is blow smoke. It has become nothing but an argument that some are calling a discussion. No more no less. But it is no problem to put you on ignore as you have nothing more to add that hasn't been covered.
So why participate? Why take the effort and time to point out to the rest of us the frivolity of our discussion? Do you have such a need to control others, that you have to point out what you believe to be useless?
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It is a fact the Patriots had multiple balls under inflated. The NFL made a statement to that effect.
Grigson knew from the November game.
To the poster who asked how the balls in Indy could have been deflated. The Patriots bring and handle their very own balls.
That was me, and my understanding is, no, its the responsibility of the home team to supply the equipment people. During the AFCCC, the pats supplied the personnel on both sidelines, and it was the pats guy that had both bags coming out of the refs room (and into the bathroom
).So in the Colts game..wouldn't it be a Colts employee providing the same service?
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The real fact is I couldn't care less about what you have to say. No more deflections for you as far as I am concerned.
But yet you took the time to point that out. You seem to want to be relevant, yet you are not. If you want to participate in a discussion, and have something useful to say, then do so. If not, keep your fingers off the keyboard. Or ignore me. Dont matter.
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For the most part I have been just reading these comments without being too involved. We can all talk and speculate till we are blue in the face but the facts remains the same. Patriots-11 underinflated footballs. Colts-0 underinflated footballs. That fact has been deflected and discussed by both sides of what you think happened. Till the final results are in from the investigation are in all this crap is useless. There is not point of view that has not been covered. Now it has turned into nothing but an argument. No matter what the result are going to be there will never be an end to this. Just like the fact of the Patriots getting caught, fined and losing a draft pick over the spygate incident. Anyone who dislikes the Patriots is never going to forget that. That will be a part of Patriots history forever. Patriot fans cant stand that part of their history. All I can say is it wouldn't be a part of their history had it not happened. This incident will also be a part of Patriot history no matter what the results of the investigation are. When you put the shoes on and play the part you have to take the heat. I do find it ironic that Patriot fans started pointing fingers at the Colts when the facts speak for themselves. The facts are as stated before are Patriots-ELEVEN underinflated footballs. Colts-ZERO underinflated footballs. How, why and who is responsible is yet to be determined.
But here's the rub, even what you said is not accurate.
11 balls is in dispute from various sources reporting different things. So this cannot be a "fact".
I'd say "get your facts straight", but given the situation, I'm not sure if its worth it
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It could be from the game in Indy ? Although we did hear that Harbaugh said something but he later denied that. Or maybe Grigson will prove to be a nut case and most of these balls will prove to be a few ticks under and the rest around .5 under. The ball that was 2lbs under could have been defective and case closed .. dunno
Here is something I cant figure out about the Grigson thing. Not that he notified the league, if he had his suspicions, then fine, he was perfectly justified to do so. But in the early part of the whole deflategate thing, we all learned (supposedly), that the home teams ball boy/locker room attendant is the one responsible for handling the balls.
So if it was the game in Indy that the colts noticed something, how did the pats get a chance to do any foul deeds to the balls? They would of presented them to the refs a couple hours before the game, and then no one in the pats organization would of touched the balls till just before kickoff.
it just doesnt add up with the information we have available...?
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Correct - I did say that would be unprecedented but you would think in a championship game the other team has to be made whole somehow.
I think thats a slippery slope indeed. If on one incident, the team that was making the complaint was rewarded with something..draft position switch, draft picks..something along that line, the league would go to heck in a hand basket really fast.
Every time something happened, whether real or perceived, teams would be clamoring for compensation, and fans would be right behind them. How come we only got their 3rd round pick for this, when team X got a 2nd for that!!
It would be a mess.
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The whole thing was on video and turned into Wells investigation team, so we'll know when the report is final.
Will we know? Does the NFL have any obligation to make the full results public?
I'm not trying to give you a hard time here, but the way this whole thing has been handled, I wonder if the "report" will be sanitized for the media/public...
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@BartHubbuch: NFL Referees Association just issued a statement denying anyone has been fired and demanding an apology from ESPN.
Hopefully this link works on mobile, here is NFLRA statement: https://mobile.twitter.com/BartHubbuch/status/568242830189191169
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water.....
Peyton Manning HGH accusation (edit)
in NFL General
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I thought I heard Mort report 11 of the 12 athletes have denied taking PEDS..
and it fluctuates naturally????
Has the NFL asked for the phone yet??!??!?!!??!