Hoosier
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Pats response tells us that the team is not going to pursue legal action. If they were they would not have wanted to lay out their arguemant
So, they're not going to pursue legal action and will eat the penalties.
Two paths to that end:
A) Release an honorable statement saying that, while they don't agree, they are going to put the whole thing behind them, accept the punishment and let everyone move on, regaining some respect. Then not pursue legal action.
B) Release an asinine rebuttal with outrageous claims that no one in their right mind would believe, making themselves look like a laughing stock, alienating the rest of the league, and losing all credibility with anyone but Patriots fans. Then not pursue legal action.
Good choice, Pats.
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LOL
1) The rebuttal denies that either Jastremski or McNally did anything wrong, on several grounds (I don't agree with them so far, but whatever). If neither did anything wrong, why did the Patriots suspend both of them?
2) "The deflator" refers to McNally's attempt to lose weight. LOLOLOLOL
3) No one saw McNally with a needle, therefore, it can't be proved that he ever had one (even though the rebuttal states that he would bring a needle and sometimes two to the officials locker room so that the officials could test footballs before the game; the Wells report states that officials bring their own gauge and needle for testing). As jskinnz would say, dear God...
4) The Colts violated the rules by testing the intercepted football on the sideline, because only the refs can test footballs once the game starts... nice try. The football was a memento, and was taken out of play. The Colts could do whatever they wanted with that football on the sideline, except put it back in play.
How much are they paying whomever is writing this stuff??
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Shaun Merriman on FS1 saying that teams have known that the Pats have been cheating and the league has ignored it for years.....
Said that when in the locker room at Gillette, they'd pass around cards with what the plans were because they were afraid the Pats were bugging the locker rooms
I remember reading an article after this whole thing broke (can't begin to remember where it was) that said visiting teams bring their own locks to Gillette for the visitor's offices because they know things will be copied and/or taken.
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and the league too because if it was "common knowledge" this was going on, then I'm sure there were MANY complaints sent in to them about it.
And Wells has said that they just didn't take Grigson's initial complaint seriously. So it's not hard to believe that it was being ignored back then.
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de·lu·sion
(dĭ-lo͞o′zhən)
n.1.a. The act or process of deluding.b. The state of being deluded.2.a. A false belief or opinion: labored under the delusion that success was at hand.b. Psychiatry A false belief or perception that is a manifestation of a mental illness: delusions of persecution.I said it before, but I honestly don't think it's delusion. It's gotten to the point of straight-up trolling.
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He'd have to get the other 31 owners on board...not gonna happen...and I hope he does take it to court. Then they'll be legally required to turn over all their records, and a more thorough, longer investigation will result and then it's more likely the extent of how long they've cheated comes out.
This is exactly why neither Brady nor the Patriots are ever going to take this into the court system in any form.
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You were the one that mentioned PED's, not him.
It's gotten to the point that I don't even believe it's delusion anymore, but deliberate trolling.
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This kills me! It takes some serious gall to think that the Patriots should deserve some kind of seat at the table in "negotiating" what punishment will be handed down!
There is a theory that Brady and the Patriots are working with the league to resolve the Deflategate matter, but a variety of sources have told the Herald the NFL is working solely on its own accord to reach a conclusion. There have been zero negotiations between the sides to resolve this matter, and the NFL is not dealing with the Patriots or Brady in any sort of way, according to the sources familiar with the situation.
Don't you think the ship has sailed on that??
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The way I see it, there is a line somewhere on the punishment scale.
Anything below that line, Tom Brady laughs and takes it as a victory.
Any punishment handed down needs to be well on the greater-than side of that line.
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I happen to think Florio is a pot-stirring windbag. I can't stand him. When it comes to "sports media," he and Skip Bayless are the first two on my anti-Mt. Rushmore. (Mt. Flushmore?) But he does have a law degree, and likely has a good idea about what he's talking about here.
Totally agree with every aspect of this statement regarding Florio.
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The independent investigation says they found no evidence of bias against the Pats. I think that turns out pretty well for the league in the eyes of anyone who isn't partial to the Pats.
I meant that it isn't good for the Patriots to have their counsel question the integrity and objectivity of game officials and league executives.
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Sitting here reading through the report and this little tidbit can't serve to make Goodell or the league happy...
At various points in the investigation, counsel for the Patriots questioned the integrity and objectivity of game officials, various NFL executives and certain NFL Security representatives present at the AFC Championship Game or otherwise involved in the investigative process.
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You are missing this. Gauge the balls before kick-off then to ensure the game is played with proper footballs. Why wait until half time especially when Walt lost track of the balls?
I addressed this very thing in a post to Dynasty.
They did guage the balls before the game! Again, were they supposed to stop play and guage the ball every time the Patriots brought one onto the field?
When the Colts got a hold of one and realized it was low, they checked the balls again. You make it sound as if they purposely allowed Tom Brady to bring the balls from home and drive them out to the sideline in a golf cart.
The only fault on the league's part was being stupid enough to bestow any assumption of integrity on an inveterate cheater.
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Let's talk about this for a second.
You're saying the NFL was less concerned about the integrity of the game than it was in catching the Patriots? If it's all about the integrity of the game, then why is it ok with any of you that the NFL allowed the entire first half of the AFC Championship Game to be played with the Patriots having an unfair advantage?
Just trying to follow the logic here...
They tested the balls before the start of the game. What more were they supposed to do from that point? Stop the game and check the ball every time there is a change of possession?
Do you get that, sometimes the only way to fully stop a wrongful activity is to bust those responsible in the act?
If the league tells them, "Hey, we're on to your little scam here," you do realize that they (any offender) would simply knock it off for that game and then go right back to it.
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My co workers and I do this all the time.
"Hey Deflator, I'm gonna need those TPS reports!"
"Sure thing, Deflator! I'm gonna need you to work this weekend...that'd be great..."
Oh, everyone does.
"Did the Deflator pick up those land surveys?"
"Hey, Deflator. Can you drop some fries?"
"Step back and let the Deflator handle this."
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I get what Patriots fans are wanting to say here. The report didn't flat out say Brady/the ball boys/aliens did it but it essentially went like this:
Let's say you are trying to prove there is a fire in a room. Ted Wells is giving you the following hints that there might be one by saying the following:
-There is a strong amount of heat coming from this room.
-There is the sound of crackling wood coming from this room.
-There is smoke coming from under the door of this room.
Now, a Patriots fans would try and tell you that there is no proof that there is an actual fire in that room but everyone else will tell you what's really in that room.
Even if you produced a videotape of Tom Brady himself jamming an ice pick into a football, the same blind, brainwashed narrative would continue for some.
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so how long has Brady been doing this?
I'm reading texts in the report right now that go back to May 9, 2014.
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There are back & forth texts that implicate Brady . according to Polian earlier Probable is all thats needed the verbage is NFL speak for guilty .
I love how some people seem to think that this is happening inside a criminal court of law.
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What I'd like to know is whether the Colts will get any apology from any of the sports media *s who perpetuated the asinine notion that the Colts deflated the INT ball, or that the team and the league somehow conspired to bushwhack the Patriots on this.
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So the report indicates that Belichick was unaware. Didn't Sean Payton maintain he was unaware too?
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The Baton Rouge Advocate reports that Collins has received interest from "almost every" team since the conclusion of the draft. We're only surprised by the word "almost."
Wonder who's not on that list...
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bet we don't even look into him
Unless he's just playing it cool, you may be right.
{"We feel comfortable that we have enough options to work with," general manager Ryan Grigson said. "We have (offseason workouts), and then we can see them out on the grass and figure it out from there. We feel confident in what we have."}
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Henry Anderson was the highest graded interior defender in all of college football last season.
PFF had him as the 9th best player in the draft.
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/04/27/philip-rivers-trade-titans-chargers-nfl-draft/
Anderson had the 4th highest run stop% and the 2nd highest pass rush productivity in the nation.
I'm not doubting any of this, and I'm excited about the prospect.
But how does all of *that* fall to the 3rd round?
Brady suspended four games, Pats fined and docked two draft picks (Mega Merge)
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McNally meant that was his diet cheat day, and he was going to be eating about a dozen crab cakes and a huge bowl of chowdah during the game.