Patagonia Chris
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Somebody actually wants Chip Kelly? GEEZ....
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I love how the rationale to hire Manning as an OC, a position that would pay him about 1/16 of what he makes now, really boils down to three reasons.
1) He knows how to read defenses.
2) He can run an offense.
3) He ran the team when he was here.
This baffles me. Do people really think that offensive coordinators in the highest, most competitive level of football, do not know how to run an offense or read defenses? Also, are people aware of the fact that you have roughly 40 seconds between plays? There's no way you can expect Manning to force feed coverage to the QB in the final 8 to 10 seconds before the snap. He ran the team when he was here? I think there is very little evidence of that. I'm sure he had some say, but I don't see a scenario where a man who was as much as a control freak as Polian was letting someone else do his job for him. Manning is beloved in Indianapolis and he is a great person, but I doubt he will ever be an offensive coordinator or head coach in the NFL. Executive, yeah maybe. I think it's time for people to move on from their "Manning Coaches The Colts!!" fantasy.
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4 hours ago, Introspect said:
GOOD RIDDANCE!!! He cost us two games this year!!
You're probably going to get absolutely slaughtered for this... just warning you ahead of time.
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1 hour ago, BOTT said:
Coordinators can't cut it the NFL. I would never hire one.
Pretty much every NFL coach was a coordinator at some point though. Are you saying you'd rather hire a college HC or someone with no coaching experience?
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It's always hard to tell whether a great coordinator will be a head coach. For every Bill Belichick there are five Norv Turners or Wade Phillips. Time will tell, I guess. I would expect the Colts to get an offensive minded coach, seeing as how NFL teams usually hire a coach who is a 180 of the man that just got fired.
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2 hours ago, Coltsman1788 said:
Good post. Yeah...NewColts was turning me on to that as well. Mentioned that Superman has several posts on our cap situation and that the Colts will be in pretty decent cap shape even after signing Luck. So I definitely stand corrected. I'll do some reading up on the Saints cap issues. Appreciate the post.
Here are a couple of good articles that really help explain the situation. You might have already read them but in case you haven't started here are some good beginning points....
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/new-orleans-saints-salary-cap/
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5 hours ago, Coltsman1788 said:
So when he had talent he was able to lead the Saints to a Super Bowl in 2009. But as the team eventually fell into cap hell, the talent has diminished and he doesn't have much to work with defensively and is doing the best he can with what he's got. So what do we expect will happen once Luck gets his pay day and the Colts are forced to cut more corners on defense? Seems like Payton might find himself in a similar situation with a team lacking in defensive talent. Our defense is already shoddy and we aren't even in cap hell.
It's not unrealistic to assume that Luck's cap number can still be in the range of what it will be next season even after he signs his next big deal. (16,000,000) I suggest you read up on the salary cap issues that the Saints have had. They might be in the worst cap situation since the beginning of the salary cap era. You have to be really, really incompetent to end up in the situation that the Saints have. For what it's worth, Grigson has done has a pretty good job of managing the cap and structuring contracts since he has been GM. With the rookie contracts the way they are now, the Colts are really only a good off-season away from shoring up the defense.
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A lot of the problems the Saints have are due to terrible contracts and being capped out for the last couple of seasons. It's hard to win when you're playing with spare parts. The defense has no talent whatsoever but that isn't Payton's fault. I doubt there is another team in this league that would start Devin Breaux at CB.
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6 hours ago, akcolt said:
That is exactly why it was so stupid to hand him the starting job. He can't stay healthy and he's not even average. You add a real C to what we have the OL isn't in the shambles everyone thinks it is. Your leader can't be a wimp and the weak link. It's beyond me how anyone thought it would work.
Besides being below average this is the first year Holmes has made it to week 1. Then he lasted a whole 7 games before his boo boo's started. He's weak.
When Pagano questions your toughness. The guy who builds up everyone to the press. When he calls you out there's a problem, Louis and Herremmans were just handed starting jobs??
A good NFL C would make this line better immediately. Wisenewski or Jones is who I'd pursue because they are 26 and 25. I would be happy with a place holder. By far the weakest link on the team followed closely by CB. The C should be the leader of the OL.
As I said in the other post then I'd bring Jeff Allen in from KC. He's 25 and played both G spots and RT to challenge our RG and RT. He should at least unseat Thorton unless Hugh finally puts it together and stays healthy. Which could happen Holmes never had the tools.
We could draft a RT but I have no problem going with Reitz. I thought he did fine. Or look at Schwartz or another in FA. Schwartz is a young guy that may not fit the Browns new zone scheme. I guess a lot depends on how we feel about Good.
I'm tired of bringing in old guys. I think C at least needs to be a FA.
Yeah I agree with you that neither are starting caliber in the NFL. I also think that this line is so bad that it won't be very hard to see an improvement as long as they sign a couple of players in FA. The team could have in excess of 40 Million in cap space depending on who they release so there's no reason for the next GM to neglect the situation. In fact, if I'm Jim Irsay, that's one of the first questions I'm asking in the interview with any potential GM, "What are you going to do to shore up the offensive line?"
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19 hours ago, akcolt said:
I like Wiesnewski. If Grig's signed him last year we wouldn't be going through this. Holmes is the biggest problem with this team. You stick a real C with Castonzo Mewhort Thorton Reitz. We have at least an average O Line. You upgrade RG we could have a good O line.
Mack is going to leave the Browns. I wouldn't object but he will cost significantly more money and is 4 years older.
I would like to see us sign Wisenewski or Ben Jones. Both are still young 25 and 26 I believe. This is Jones first yr at C since college. We need a real C next year not a rookie. Either of these guys stabilize the line for the next 5-7 yrs.
Then I would bring in Jeff Allen from KC. Another young guy. He has played both G positions and RT. I would have him challenge for a spot on the right side.
He could take over at RG unless Thorton can put it together and stay healthy. Challenge Reitz at RT or be our primary back up. Something tells me he ends up at RG.. He is only 25.
Those 2 moves could fix our O Line problems. We still don't know what we have in Heenan or Good.
We have to address the C in FA. That position has to be stable for a successful OL. That's been Grig's biggest fault undervuing the need for quality at C or getting stuck on Holmes however you look at it.
But Harrison has started more games these last two seasons at Center than Holmes has...
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If RG3 has humbled himself, learned how to read defenses, and he is ready to be a pocket passer than I believe he could have success. Only time will tell though.
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4 hours ago, ALL BLUE said:
So you would draft another receiver in the 1st Rd if he was the best on your board?
I take it you didn't read the rest of my posts?
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I always like using the pro-football-reference tool of "similar players" on topics like these. According to that site Manning is most similar to: Mark Brunell, Troy Aikman, Jim Kelly, Terry Bradshaw, Steve McNair, Tony Romo, Donovan McNabb, Drew Bledsoe, Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger.
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So now I guess we know what the odds are that Grigson and Pagano will return.
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4 hours ago, Mrs. Misunderstood said:
No, you sir are one having a hard time comprehending the laws of Hippa.
Anyone, be it a Dr. Insurance Agent, Secretary, Receptionist, part time file person, ANYONE that has access to records or personal information regarding another person's personal information is forbidden to reveal or talk about this. Period.
HIPAA stands for Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. Passed in 1996 HIPAA is a federal law that sets a national standard to protect medical records and other personal health information.
I take it you meant I'm having a hard time understanding HIPAA, not Hippa? Also, those businesses have to meet the requirement of a covered entity before they are subject to those laws. There is a chance that Dr. Guyer's "Molecular Medicine" would not be a covered entity.
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2 hours ago, csmopar said:
Actually, you are dead wrong. Any and every single employee of a doctors office must be Hippa certified, they must attend training and receive a certificate. I myself am Hippa certified. That is federal law. Even if the employee leaves the practice etc, he/she still falls under hippa. As does the doctors office as far as patients seen while the employee was there.
We had a receptionist fined and thus fired for simply texting a person she knew after seeing her file and saying that she was sorry bout her contracting a disease.......
Yeah in a REAL doctor's office that is the case. I'm not sure this guy would qualify as a real doctor under state regulations. I don't think that this is technically a medical practice. He is not held to the same restrictions as a practicing doctor would be. I don't think you understood what I said very well.
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1 hour ago, Mrs. Misunderstood said:
Here is a part of the story that caught my attention. Ashley, from day one, has chosen to be very private in a very public life. Now her very privacy is being broadcast for the world to see. If, and this is a big IF any of this is true, and she was taking HGH post pregnancy, the public broadcast of this without her consent is a violation of HIPPA laws at the very least.
That's a whole other topic that I can't really dive into because I'm not a lawyer, but I'm also not sure what kind of license this guy had. If he isn't recognized by the state as a doctor, then that law isn't in effect. In a lot of PED cases the "doctors" aren't medically affiliated in any way at all.
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11 minutes ago, bluebombers87 said:
But all of which is moot if the one person who mentioned Manning in any capacity has recanted and said he made it up.
So everything after that point is all just people saying what if, even though by recanting there can never be that particular if.
Not necessarily. If this lab is indicted on charges, then there could very well be history of this "nutrition company" or "doctor" shipping HGH to Ashley Manning. Manning himself didn't even rule that out. How familiar are you with the BALCO case or with Alex Rodriguez? This guys verbal statements aren't the end all, be all. I'm going to guess at this point this is a lot more smoke than fire, but there is a little bit of fire, somewhere. Manning is addressing the report himself in 5 minutes on ESPN.
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6 hours ago, bluebombers87 said:
Read the article. It says specifically and multiple times the person the report is based off of recanted. The only person who is linking Manning to this is saying he made it up. I cannot stress this enough. Of course certain fans from NE on this forum won't read the article and will just jump in head first.
I read the article and several others from different sites. I read the original article on HuffingtonPost 10 minutes after it came out. And I did notice how Manning admitted he had gone to the place frequently and he didn't deny that they may have sent HGH to his wife. This is Manning's quote directly, "Yes, I have been a patient under Dr. Guyer. I have had nutrient therapy, oxygen therapy and other treatments that are holistic in nature but never HGH. My wife has never provided any medication for me to take. Ashley and I never attended the clinic together after hours. There were times when I went in the morning and there were times when I went after practice so this thing about 'after hours' is so misleading because it may have been 5:15 pm because their office closed at 5." Also, HGH is illegal without a medical prescription for it, so if it is true that his wife was sent HGH then there is a very good chance that some sort of criminal case could come from this, at the very least. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this story. Deadspin or some other media outlet will start to do some digging. Even if Manning did use HGH, it wouldn't change my opinion of him. I'm pretty sure use of this stuff is rampant throughout the sport.
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4 hours ago, Mrs. Misunderstood said:
You're right. There could be "some" truth in the guy's story somewhere.
With regard to Peyton, and 2011 it wasn't against the rules at that point, and no failed tests, no proof.
For what it's worth, HGH was a banned substance but it wasn't tested for by the league. Just because there are no failed tests doesn't mean there's no proof. I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg and there will be more to come in the next few days. Remember, Barry Bonds never failed a drug test, and there is MORE than enough proof that the guy was juicing for years.
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1 hour ago, throwing BBZ said:
Silly because there are so many draft disappointments and these players have very little that separates them.
And your example goes far beyond common sense.
Your draft board, after all the research and $$ spent making it is a very large guessing game.
Besides get real, everyone is just stating there round preference based on what they see as our needs.What perceived talent that is available when we draft is OF COURSE unknown.
Grigson rates an extra point or 2 to Dorsett when we needed defense. Malcolm Brown was the pick for us
period. A perfect example of best player available Failing.And we have so many needs now because of so many failures.
And i have no doubt Mr. Irsay has worked closely with Grigson on several of our unsuccessful moves.
I'm not sure exactly what you're saying to me. I never endorsed Dorsett nor said that was a good pick, I do think you need to draft for need, obviously, but you can't just zero in on one need in each round regardless of what's available. That kind of thinking will leave you with players like Bjoern Werner littered all over the roster. Grigson's problem is that he has constantly tried to hit home runs. It's no coincidence that in baseball the list for league leaders in home runs is usually almost identical to the leaders in strikeouts. Ryan Grigson is the Rob Deer of NFL GM's.
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Not only do Grigson's gems suck as players, they also suck as people.
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I've always been skeptical of advanced analytics in football, simply for the fact that there is so much grey area. Unless you have a really experienced former coach breaking down the tape and assigning grades it's a flawed system. It's not like baseball where every offensive stat can be broken down into some hardcore stat. There was a Colts writer who used to be a slave to these new "advanced analytics" and it'd drive me crazy. Used it as an end all, be all when it really just came off as he was trying to hide his lack of knowledge about the game behind these numbers.
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7 minutes ago, Bird dog said:
Yeah because the colts are so loaded with talent this year?
Which proves my point about Griff Whalen. He wouldn't have a roster spot on most other teams. I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to get at here and I don't think you know either.
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