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im saying the draft is deep and if one gets hurt were back to where we were last year. I'm all for a defense in the draft , but I see there's a wr in the mock and he'll be a 5 - 6 option behind carter.
Fair point. I would be fine getting a Rb. Just not at the expense of the picks you wanted (2-4). sixth round would be a good place to grab one.
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Running back around pick 2-4
So we need a three headed rushing attack vs vital pcs to the defense? We just brought gore in and Herron played well enough to be a number two. We have bigger needs atm.
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I think we have a little more then 10M right now, love the mock though. But with the week class, I'd rather not reach for Prewitt, and rather draft a different position (ILB, RB, OG) in the 2nd then not reach for a S in the 3rd.
Overthecap has us at 23.7M not counting butler 2m, Adams 2m, Langford 4m and Aj 7M. That puts us below 10 if the current Speculations are correct.
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I think we have a little more then 10M right now, love the mock though. But with the week class, I'd rather not reach for Prewitt, and rather draft a different position (ILB, RB, OG) in the 2nd then not reach for a S in the 3rd.
It all depends how it goes in the draft but last year the safety class seemed to go earlier then expected so I had that in mind when I did this.
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I don't think you left enough cap space for the draft and UDFAs.
Agreed. Which is unfortunately starting to make me wonder if we go after Knighton with the current money we have. To do so we would have to ditch someone (Louis, walden and/or cherilus) or restructure someone just to make it happen.
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Kendrick lewis...
might aswell have just kept sergio brown
I was originally hoping that we did. Unfortunately he is gone so we need another player to rotate in with Prewitt while he learns the speed of the pro game and in case of injuries.
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Colts Offseason/ Mock 2015 2.0
With the first day and a half of free agency behind us, we now have a better look at what are draft strategy may be. As it stands we do not have much cap space left (sitting at around 10M based on speculated terms with Langford, Adams and AJ). We still have a few players that can be dropped to give us enough space to make a run at a player or two.
Remaining Cap ~10M
Cuts
Thomas - Saves 3.2m
Richardson - Saves 3.1m
Cribbs -Saves .9M
Projected Cap – 16.2M
Resign
Adams -2yrs 5M Cap Hit 2.5M RESIGNED 2YRS (2015 ~2m)
Remaining Cap 14.2M
Free Agents
Terrance Knighton – 4 yrs – 30M – 2015 Cap hit 7M
Kendrick Lewis – 2 yrs – 4M – 2015 Cap Hit 2M
Remaining Cap 5.2M
Draft
1—Jordan Phillips – DT – We need to beef up our D line, and this guy will do the trick nicely. If we do not secure Knighton, this pick becomes almost a must for us. Cap 1.32M
Previous Pick Paul Dawson – ILB
2- Cody Prewitt – FS- I think he may be gone by now, but if by some chance he is, this is the pick we need to make. He would give our back end a playmaker that can rotate in with Kendricks and Adams. Cap .65M Previous Pick - Cody Prewitt – FS
3- Henry Anderson – DT/DE – Can play multiple positions along the line. He has surprising quickness for a player of his size. He is our replacement for Redding in the D line rotation. This pick completes our D-Line (Jones, Phillips, Knighton starting with Langford and Anderson able to fill in along the line) Cap .6M Previous Pick Mike Davis – RB
4- Taiwan Jones – ILB – With our D line solid, we need to work on getting a thumper at ILB to clean up what the D Line gives up. Jones is a tackling machine that will help ensure we never get run over again. Cap .55M Previous Pick Henry Anderson – DT/DE
5-Corey Robinson – OT – A decent looking run blocker to serve as insurance in case Cherilus doesn’t make it back 100%. Could use a little work in the pass protection area, but if we aren’t forced to start him right away he could be a solid RT down the line. Cap .48M
Previous Pick Deontay Greenberry – WR
6- Cam Thomas – CB – Physical Corner. Great in the run game. Not a polished prospect, but learning from our solid group of CBs he could be a solid contributor down the road. Cap .46M
Previous Pick Cam Thomas – CB
6- Deontay Greenberry – WR –His snub from the combine hurts his draft stock. His loss is our gain (and eventually his gain). He can learn behind Dre and TY. At this point in the draft his suspect route running and drops are worth the risk. He may not even make the roster based on the talent we already have, but is a possible candidate for the PS. Cap .46M
Previous Pick Blake Sims – QB
7- Tevin McDonald – FS- A flyer on a player with some upside. Safety is a position of need, and we would only have Lewis and Adams for two seasons. McDonald could possibly be groomed as one of the replacements. Cap .45M
Previous Pick Brett Boyko – OT
Cap After Draft Picks – .23M
While this set up leaves us with a pretty solid team, after factoring in what Adams will make, it will leave us with no cap space should something happen during the season. If we absolutely needed the cap we would have to look into cutting players like Walden or Lance Louis. Other options might arise such as Mathis or Cherilus if their injuries are too much for them to come back healthy (these two players could also be restructured to give us some breathing room). The alternative to this would be to not sign Knighton and go after a smaller name Defensive Lineman to join the rotation with Anderson and Langford.
Thoughts?
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I am thinking this is a signing just in case our plans fall through for Knighton or someone like that. He was a fairly productive player for the rams and is a high end backup/ low end starter.
This is what I am hoping anyways.
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McPhee is just as good an edge aetter as Walden whilst being an upgrade in pass rush.
I Am weary about pulling the trigger on McPhee. Part time player being paid to be a full time starter, not sure if he can make that next step. Also not sold on his pass rush skills. His only sacks came against terrible o lines (IND, ATL, CLE, JAX, TB) I think for the money he wants we are better off going for a proven commodity.
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Last thing, if I add McPhee, I'm good with getting rid of Walden. That's more breathing room.
Why do you want to cut a three down lb for a pass rush specialist?
Love adding all the competition on the o line, but how much does your plan change if redding decides to retire?
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One of the big keys I noted on Jones was his offensive line was not very good.
I'm interested to see what he looks like behind a line that blocks. Very good size.
Well if you want to see him behind a line that blocks then you might not want him here. Hahaha jk (kind of). Wouldn't mind taking a flier on him if he's around, assuming we can't land anyone in the 2nd-4th.
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Got a 42 on my phone... touch screen got two or three wrong on my behalf
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Not sure if you guys know about this or if you just decided it was irrelevant, but Fanspeak also has a free agency mock simulator in addition to their draft simulator. Uses OverTheCap data for doing signings, cuts, etc.
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No he wouldn't. He'd be in man and zone coverage 50%+ of the time. Even more if we used him purely in a nickel role.
And when he is asked to come to the line of scrimmage, it would be as an A-gap blitzer, where the LB is supposed to stay as clean as he can to get in the backfield. Which is one of Dawson's strengths.
Wish I could find the source but there was a scouting report saying almost exactly this. That he would be a good nickel ilb and even an everydown wilb due to his coverage ability and ability to read a play.
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If we get OL help like I suggested then the RBs I picked will be fine.
My bad, glossed over the Cobb pick for some reason. Carry on.
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I do like the thought of bringing in Moore from Denver. Dan Williams is a good piece for the d-line (although I personally would rather have Knighton). Also love the addition of Franklin, as he can swing out to RT of we needed him to. My problem is relying on sub par Rbs. I think we need someone to get some pressure off luck every once in awhile.
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I really like armstead for our system but I worry that he won't be around by 29 when all is said and done.
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All this debate is for nil. One thing we have learned from Grigson is he beats to his own drum. With every player he may sign before the draft changes every pick like the two CFL players just signed. I understand it's the off season and there is not a lot to be discussed but all this effort is just that. With every mock draft I have looked at they are all different. I would be willing to bet that Grigson will go totally different than what most feel he should.
Absolutely It will be different. we haven't even hit the combine yet, which will drastically change rankings. This is simply a starting point for me to build on as time goes.
Mostly we are just bored with the offseason and looking for reasons to argue with one another
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I would pass on Greenberry. He reminds me of Steven Hill, formerly of the Jets. Wide receiver with tantalizing size but poor hands and route running.
While I agree with that assessment, I feel if we don't have to throw him in the fire like they did to hill he could take the time to work on that. Especially with Reggie around to show him the ropes if he comes back.
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In this scenario we need to resign toler or sign a good fa. Also this leaves us with the same o line we had last year outside a 7th round tackle. My dream off season for our o line would be to pick up 2 top guards and move mewhort to rt and cut cherilus.
I have faith in who we have on the line, at least enough to give them one more season to try and progress. We have Thornton and John both coming back from injury, as well signing heenan from the CFL, who with a little coaching could be a starter for us. I wouldn't mind adding in a bit more competition if we can swing it though. Could be a few udfas that look promising. Although all of this assumes cherilus comes back 100%. If he has any sort of set back then we would need to rethink priorities.
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Yeah Im not a fan of drafting a QB at all
The way I see it we can follow two paths in regards to our backup qb situation.
The first is our usual plan, which leaves us one injury away from 2-14, or we can be proactive and take a chance on a high upside player late in the draft that could be a decent backup that may even be able to get us a return via a trade down the road. The Patriots have got away with it with both Cassel and Mallett, essentially renting them as backups and then trading them away. I am not saying I think we can get a 2ND round pick for Sims down the road, but we may be able to get a 6th or 7th rounder, essentially getting our initial investment back.
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No to Moore and Sims im fine w one or other not both and that's if Hasselbeck retires
The thought would be that we put Sims on the ps for a season to give him some time to progress a bit before we give him sole backup duties.
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Colts Offseason/ Mock 2015 1.0
Alright Gents! After lurking around these boards for the last few years, I have finally decided to roll up my sleeves and start contributing. That being said, I present my first ever offseason/draft mock!!! With the Combine not even started up yet, these projections will wildly change, but I think this is a good starting point. I look for forward to your feedback on this (keep in mind I have never done this before). All of these cap numbers are figured using the overthecap.com software, as well as a few salary projections from other mock drafts, both on and off our boards.
Starting Cap 32.8M
Cuts
Landry (Post June 1) - Saves 4m
Thomas - Saves 3.2m
Richardson - Saves 3.1m
Phillips - Saves 2.65m
Cribbs - Saves .97m
Projected Cap – 44.6M
Resign
Hasselbeck (if he doesn’t retire) – 1yr 2.5M Cap Hit 2.5M
Wayne (if he doesn’t retire) - 1yr 3M Cap Hit 3M
Adams -2yrs 5M Cap Hit 2.5M
Studebaker -3yrs 2.6M Cap Hit .87M
Butler -3yrs 10M Cap Hit 3.5M
Brown -3yrs 6M Cap Hit 2M
Reitz -2yrs 3.75M Cap Hit 1.5M
Shipley -1yr 1.33m (Original Round Tender)
Pendleton -1yr 1.33m (Original Round Tender)
Overton -1yr 1.33m (Original Round Tender)
Nixon -1yr .585M (ERFA Tender)
Herron -1yr .585M (ERFA Tender)
Adongo -1yr .585M (ERFA Tender)
Freeman -1yr 2.88M (First Round Tender)
Remaining Cap 20.1M
Free Agents
Terrance Knighton – 4 yrs – 21M – 2014 Cap hit 5M
Shane Vereen – 2 yrs – 7M – 2014 Cap Hit 3.5M
In the event Wayne Retires – Cecil Shorts – 2yrs – 5M Cap Hit 2.5M
In the event Hasselbeck Retires - Matt Moore - 1 yr - 2M
Remaining Cap 11.6M
Draft
1-Paul Dawson – ILB – With half of our ILBs having run ins with the law in recent months, it wouldn’t hurt to bring in some new blood. Dawson brings a playmaking aspect to our middle that we haven’t had in awhile. Cap 1.32M
2- Cody Prewitt – FS- I think he may be gone by now, but if by some chance he is, this is the pick we need to make. He would give our back end a playmaker. Cap .65M
3- Mike Davis – RB – He is a hard-nosed runner who would give our O line a tough RB to rally around. Makes quick cuts, doesn’t dance around and fights for extra yards. Also looks decent in the pass game, although he could use some practice pass blocking (but what college RB doesn’t need that). Cap .6M
4- Henry Anderson – DT/DE – Can play multiple positions along the line. He has surprising quickness for a player of his size. He is our replacement for Redding in the D line rotation. Might not be around by this point. (Second Choice – Corey Crawford –DE) Cap .55M
5-Deontay Greenberry – WR – Tall Physical WR that will fight for the ball. Could use some work with route running and beating press coverage. Could turn into a gem. Cap .48M
6- Cam Thomas – CB – Physical Corner. Great in the run game. Not a polished prospect, but learning from our solid group of CBs he could be a solid contributor down the road. Cap .46M
6- Blake Sims – QB – We need to get a backup for Luck eventually (especially if Hasselbeck does not come back). Sims is a raw talent, but given the right coaching he could be a solid player to have behind Luck. Cap .46M
7- Brett Boyko – OT – A last round flyer. Lacks the skills to be an elite talent, but hasn’t had a ton of experience in American Football (he was a Canadian DE). Needs some coaching and some confidence but the guy could be a depth player for us. Mostly just want the Colts to take a chance on him because he is from my hometown of Saskatoon, SK, Canada. Cap .45M
Cap After Draft Picks – 6.7M
Not a big splash in FA for us this year if we go this route, but between the few key players we get along with our draft picks I think this will set us up with some solid pieces on both sides of the ball, as well as good rotational/backup players in case we get with that wretched injury bug we can’t seem to shake.
Let me know what you all think!! Can’t wait to hear your feedback!!
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All around good mock Superman. Well thought out and well put together!!!
The one question I have for this mock; If we had a shot at FS Cody Prewitt at our 2nd round pick (as unlikely as it is), do you think the Colts should pull the trigger on that and shore up our back end a bit as opposed to Jake Fisher, who may be better suited to a guard position anyways? This assumes that we may have to upgrade who we pick up for a FA RT.
Thoughts?
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SaturdayAllDay's First Ever Mock! v2.0
in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk
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Like I have said I think we will have to Make move or two before we go ahead with Knighton. And I Would be perfectly fine with grabbing a Rb instead of Greenberry. Kind of an oversight on my part. maybe I'm just not ready to give up on Ballard yet.