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    Colts 2024 Draft Pick

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    1 minute ago, Smonroe said:


    I know, logically, we need a stud CB or edge rusher.   But I’m in the camp that says - give AR more weapons.  So if a top WR is available, I’d love to take him.

     

    But we all know Ballard…

    Well, he finally drafted a QB last year.  Maybe he will surprise us and get a top WR this year.

    Kudos to Raimann!

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    1 hour ago, DougDew said:

    As I said, I don't think I ever used the word.   Others use it, and I cringe when I read it.

     

    Its possible that Robert Mathis was a steal, in that Polian probably figured that other GMs didn't value an undersized pass rusher as much as he did.  But now others do too.

     

    Ever watched the show Storage Wars?  Somebody sees something that they know others don't see or know its value.  They get it cheap.  You could say they stole the item more than they got lucky, because they knew the item and knew nobody else did.

     

    The way the draft works, if Ballard knew Raimann would have been a top 10 LT, he would not have picked AP and JW before Raimann.  Steal is the wrong word, and lucky is a better word.

    So correct me if I'm wrong, to you, there is no such thing as a "steal" in the draft.  Just making sure I understand.  I guess we have different views on the subject.  That's ok.

    Kudos to Raimann!

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    32 minutes ago, DougDew said:

    I wouldn't.  I  don't think I've every used the word seriously. 

     

    Doesn't the would steal mean that you know what something is and found a way to get it before others found out what it was?  I think what happened is more like everybody thought the black box contained a nice glass vase, then you open it and it turns out to be crystal.  I would not call that a steal.

     

    If Ballard would have thought Raimann would be a top 10 LT by his second year...he would not have waited until pick 79 to select him.  No, I don't think its a steal the way most use that word around here.

    I'm confused.  What is your definition of a steal in the draft?

    Kudos to Raimann!

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    4 minutes ago, DougDew said:

    It might be a steal, but why credit a GM for that?  He just picked the guy that was sitting there available.  Did LAR think Puca was going to be as good as he is, and the GM knew that no other GM knew what he knew so he let him drop?  It doesn't work like that.

     

    The way it works is this.  IND needed a LT.  LAR needed a WR.  They both drafted a guy that NOBODY forecasted to be a top 10 anything....if they would have thought thst each would have been top 10 early....,they would also figure that other GMs knew that (or else they are tremendously egotistical and conceited)..and they would have drafted each player with their first round pick (or at least before Jelani Woods and Alec Pierce).  That's what the NFL does with LTs they think will be top 10 LTs and top 10 WRs early...they draft them in the first round. 

     

    The fact that LAR and IND did not do that shows that they knew nothing substantially more than any other GM about how the player would turn out....they may all have thought they were good developmental players.  The reason they were picked is because the the team needs aligned with the each players availability and forecast.  (After we picked AP and Woods)

     

    If you want to equate GM stealing a player with a GM getting lucky, I'll agree to that, but I doubt that's the way most see it.

    So how would you define a steal in a draft?  Just because he was a position of need means he's not a steal?  Sounds odd to me.

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    Dline, snaps per pressure for Colts players and a some upcoming free agents.

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    16 hours ago, Solid84 said:

    In the "2024 Important NFL Off-Season Dates…." thread I posted this as a response to whether or not the Colts should consider bringing in Chase Young:

     

     

    Just for poops and giggles I decided to dig a little deeper here and include some upcoming non-Colts free agents. There's no agenda with this, I just like digging around in these numbers and thought it could create some disussion.

     

    If you have other stats or the like you'd like for me to look up just ask.

     

    The above example was using the players' total snaps. PFF divides these into Run defense and Pass rush snaps (and Coverage snaps if they have any). I think using the actual Pass rush snaps would be a better idea, so that's what I'm going with here.

     

    The following is some basic calculations on how many Pass rush snaps these guys needed to create pressure (Sacks, Hits and Hurries) in the 2023/2024 season - Lower is better:

    Colts players:

    • DeForest Buckner
      • Pass rush snaps: 495
      • Total Pressures: 52
      • Snaps per Pressure: 9.52
    • Samson Ebukam
      • Pass rush snaps: 450
      • Total Pressures: 48
      • Snaps per Pressure: 9.38
    • Tyquan Lewis
      • Pass rush snaps: 259
      • Total Pressures: 44
      • Snaps per Pressure: 5.89
    • Dayo Odeyingbo
      • Pass rush snaps: 365
      • Total Pressures: 29
      • Snaps per Pressure: 12.59
    • Kwity Paye
      • Pass rush snaps: 410
      • Total Pressures: 28
      • Snaps per Pressure: 14.64
    • Grover Stewart
      • Pass rush snaps: 218
      • Total Pressures: 15
      • Snaps per Pressure: 14.53

     

    Lewis has been really good. But he's been a rotational piece, so it's not certain his prodcution would scale. I would like to see a lot more of him though.

     

    Noteworthy Dline free agents 2024:

    DTs:

    • Chris Jones, DT
      • Pass rush snaps: 482
      • Total Pressures: 75
      • Snaps per Pressure: 6.43
    • Justin Madubuike, DT
      • Pass rush snaps: 512
      • Total Pressures: 64
      • Snaps per Pressure: 9.52
    • Christian Wilkins, DT
      • Pass rush snaps: 563
      • Total Pressures: 58
      • Snaps per Pressure: 8.00
    • DJ Reader, DT
      • Pass rush snaps: 314
      • Total Pressures: 34
      • Snaps per Pressure: 9.24
    • Leonard Williams, DT
      • Pass rush snaps: 221
      • Total Pressures: 22
      • Snaps per Pressure: 10.05
    • Fletcher Cox, DT
      • Pass rush snaps: 480
      • Total Pressures: 43
      • Snaps per Pressure: 11.16

     

    Chris Jones is off the charts man. Heard rumours he wanted $30m/year - yikes!

     

    DEs:

    • Danielle Hunter, DE
      • Pass rush snaps: 613
      • Total Pressures: 80
      • Snaps per Pressure: 7.66
    • Chase Young, DE
      • Pass rush snaps: 480
      • Total Pressures: 66
      • Snaps per Pressure: 7.27
    • Josh Allen, DE
      • Pass rush snaps: 513
      • Total Pressures: 90
      • Snaps per Pressure: 5.70
    • Brian Burns, DE
      • Pass rush snaps: 379
      • Total Pressures: 40
      • Snaps per Pressure: 9.48
    • Jadeveon Clowney, DE
      • Pass rush snaps: 482
      • Total Pressures: 71
      • Snaps per Pressure: 6.79
    • Bryce Huff, DE
      • Pass rush snaps: 334
      • Total Pressures: 67
      • Snaps per Pressure: 4.99
    • Jonathan Greenard, DE
      • Pass rush snaps: 405
      • Total Pressures: 48
      • Snaps per Pressure: 8.44
    • Andrew Van Ginkel, DE
      • Pass rush snaps: 321
      • Total Pressures: 53
      • Snaps per Pressure: 6.06

     

    Josh Allen and Van Ginkel (Who, I'll be honest, I've never heard of..) have done well. Both are OLBs though, so not sure how they would fit in our scheme? From his total snap counts it looks like Bryce Huff is a rotational piece a la Lewis. His prodcution might not scale.

     

    Again, I didn't do this to prove a point or to say we need to go get player x. I just like digging around in these numbers. If there are stats for other positions groups you'd like me to look up I'll gladly do it.

    I think Van Ginkel is with the Dolphins.   I recognize him from the HBO NFL show.

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    Gus Bradley likely staying

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    44 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

    This is the defense that Ballard wants:

     

    "It's always about your fronts," Ballard said. "When you have a good quarterback and you can have a good offensive and defensive line, you've got a chance to win. If that defensive line can get after the quarterback, especially with four people -- I mean y'all lived it. Y'all lived it for a long time here in Indy when you had (Dwight) Freeney and (Robert) Mathis coming off the edge when Tony was the head coach. That makes all the difference in the world and covers up for a lot of your mistakes in the back end."

     

    Look, Chris, you can rush 4 people when you have Freeney and Mathis. When you don't, you need to mix it up.

     

    Gus runs the defense that Ballard wants in Indy. Rush 4 people and cover on the back end. Bland. Vanilla. Opposing QBs love it.

    Problem is we have nowhere near the talent of Freeney/Mathis on this roster.  We need an elite DE badly.

    Colts vs Texans post game

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    10 hours ago, Smonroe said:


    It was an easy pass and catch.  High schoolers make it.  Bad pass, but still should have been caught.  
     

    Good play. 

    You said it yourself.   High schoolers make it.  Should have been to a WR with the season on the line IMHO.

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