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Reggie has already said his piece and made it known where he stands in regards to this. He shouldn't have to be the one to do it again. Time for someone else to say something. It would be nice if Peyton would go to bat for Painter here.
Here is an idea, players need to keep their mouths shut and do their job on the field...
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I continue to read stuff here about how the Colts should do this, or have done that, or fired this guy or signed that guy. And yes I understand as Fans we 'think' we know it all or at least more then those in charge. But isn't it easy for us to sit here and critique the team without having full knowledge of what is actually happening?
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Does anyone see Jim on game day talking to players when they mess up?
Does anyone see Jim tell the OC "run the dang ball" when its third and one?
Does anyone see jim do anything durning the game but walk around and put hit 1 finger up when we score a touchdown?
if anyone can say yes to anyone of these question then <yes> then he should stay the HC of this team.
if not.........
Each coach has his own style of coaching, are you saying Caldwell never talks to the players at all?
I don't believe Caldwell calls the players, that is what an offensive coordinator/Peyton do.
So you believe yelling and screaming works? Really how well is that working for say the Cheifs whose coach goes nutts all the time? Why do coaches have to be yellers?
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Before this last offseason the Colts never dipped their hand into free agency to shore up area's that everybody and their brother knew were weak area's. I don't think anybody expected them to go out and spend millions on a ton a free agents but 1 or 2 decent players for the last umteen yrs. would have helped tremendously. They signed players to ridiculously big contracts that were never worth the money I.E. Bob sanders, Kelvin Hayden. Admittedly Sanders could have been worth the money except he was never on the field, but then they hung onto him 2 yrs. longer than they should have. The defensive scheme is an absolute joke that is simply not executed well or not coached well or both. I could probably go on and on but im not going to waste my time I have to go pick up my Daughter.
People keep screaming for FA hires...well to do that you must first have the money under the cap to do so...the Colts didn't and you have to have a GM who believes in that way of building a franchise and again the Colts don't. So the whole FA aspect won't fly in Indy as long as a Polian is in charge.
Teams outside of maybe NE hold onto players to long, there is always that hope especially high picks that things will turn around. It's the nature of the business.
As for the defensive scheme, we don't know, we have no inside knowledge or even an understanding of the game like those doing have to know if the issue is scheme, talent, execution or what. Our D is buit talent wise to play a certain way and you can't change that overnight.
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I think that, save for a few throws, Painter looked pretty bad out there. That being said, though, he looked better than Collins has looked.
I now think the Colts are screwed for this year, regardless of which of them start. I think it makes more sense to get the real backup some playing time, though, so for that reason, at this point I would just go with Painter to get him more experience and maybe he can actually develop into a viable stop gap backup.
Assuming Manning will come back healthy next year (and a couple years after that), I would not want the Colts squandering a premium first round pick on a QB. I'd want their high picks used to shore up other parts of the team to better help immediate (next couple of years) Super Bowl aspirations. I would only go QB if Manning has only two or less years left.
Squandering a first round pick on a QB who might just be the next Peyton Manning and only comes around every decade or so? Sorry but if Luck is on the board when the Colts draft and they DON'T take him, this franchise is doomed for the following decade plus. People need to wake up, the Peyton years are over, it's time to begin moving towards your next franchise QB.
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How anybody can continue to use this ridiculously lame argument is beyond me. I haven't even been calling for Caldwell's head, but using this argument for him to keep his job is juvenile. It has no foundation in reality. Virtually everybody, but a few select Colts fans knew this team was going to be awful without Manning running the offense. We have other good players but the coaching staff nor the front office have put them in the posistion to be successful without Manning.
How many teams lose their Starting QB and win? NE got lucky, and even then they didn't make the playoffs. Exactly "how" should the Colts' mag't team prepared this franchise for play without Peyton Manning with the present CBA and the contracts other Colt key players have?
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Being a reliable back-up with real experience for us for years to come?
What pocket? What is this pocket you speak of?
Painter isn't NFL material, I am unsure how the coaches don't see that but he isn't, he wasn't even a grade A or high B college QB. As for the pocket, that is the job of the offensive, no QB can operate without it.
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That is true, painter will be the starter... if collins comes in now the colts would commit suicide with some of their fan base lol... especially if they lost to the cheifs. Painter is gonna be the starter
Commit suicide with their fan base? Really?
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You have to be kidding me? Who reported this? Phil B? JMV? A fan? If it came from someone reptituble then the reaction below is warranted.
The offense actually looked like an offense last night and moved the ball. Sure Painter looked a bit rough at times, but that is what is going to happen to a young QB making his first start and under constant pressure because of a injury riddled OL.
If Collins gets the start my head might explode. Collins is washed up and there is much more upside to go with Painter. God forbid we see what the kid actually has and maybe we have our back up until Manning retires.
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If it just someone saying they heard through someone that Collins is the probable starter then it probably just a bunch of bunk.
What upside? Really he made 2 passes for TD's last night that were due to the speed of the WR, not the arm of the QB. Painter was not a good college QB and never had NFL abilities. Yes Collins is not what he was, but he still brings more opportunity when he is given time in the pocket over Painter.
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Lets see in first season he akes the Colts to the SB
Lets see in second season with a high number of key injuries to key positions he gets the Colts to the playoffs
Lets see in third season with out Peyton he has kept the team in tact and even though they are 0-4 have only had 1 bad blowout.
Yes Caldwell can coach, I doubt any other person would have had any better of a record then Caldwell given the same things to work with.
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i wish there was a bridge that went to to colts complex, i would organize a march!!!!
Really? How is the organization that has the history this one has over the past decade plus all of a sudden lost it? Could it be that actually have a plan in place? Could it be they actually know more then joe fan knows?
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Yea and a great chance to go and see the Colts. Unlike many here I have no issue with the Colts being bad this year, it was bound to happen at some point, plus if you are going to pick a season to be bad might as well be this season when you can draft Peytons replacment in a few seasons. Plus there is no way you can match the experience of a live game sitting at home.
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If anyone watched that game last night and came away thinking Painter is a NFL QB wasn't watching ESPN last night. This season is lost, go with Collins maybe pick up a win or so then go draft Luck and have that position set for next decade or longer.
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Due to the delining prices of upcoming Colts game I think I might finally be able to get to go to a live game. Right now on tix that I can afford I am either looking at the upper deck in the say 600 sections on the side or high up in the endzone on the end where the jumbotron is located. If given a choice which would be better seats?
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LOL ... The Colts have been in the last 3 games ... and IMO if Painter had started all season we may very well be 3-1 right now! I say they win at LEAST 6 games this year - at least! And if we can get some guys to step up we could be 8-8.....
Okay what 6 teams do you see the colts beating?
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Caldwell deserves to get ripped when using very questionable judgment. I just think other coaches out there would blow him away head-to-head as far as decisions and judgment (bill cowher, chuckie, bill parcels, bill belichick, tony dungy)
Wow we just listed 5 HOF coaches...I would sure hope 5 HOF coaches might coach better then a Head coach in his 3rd season...
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We beat KC and Cincy and Jax all at home, go 0-8 on the road, finish 3-13 and end up with the 3 draft pick as Miami gets the number 1 pick, vikings get 2 and we get no. 3
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Unless Mannings career is over we would be dumb to spend a #1 overall on a QB - so I agree enough of the Luck talk! If he can come back he still has 4-5 years left in him!
We need to improve on D and on the Oline!
I am truelly baffled how anyone can think that in year 4 or 5 Peyton would be a better option over a younger better QB in Luck? Green Bay showed how to handle it, and if the Colts are smart they follow their pattern. You draft Luck, he takes the 2012, 2013 and maybe 2014, but the Peyton era is coming to a close and people need to wake up to that.
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Is it poor talent or poor coaching/schemes game plan? And NO you still take Luck with the number 1 pick.
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You are going to go for it with Painter at QB and it's a road game and your QB is not playing very well in his first start. I really believe some people just look for things to rip Caldwell on.
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CAR VS CHI - Bears win
BUF VS CIN - Buffalo but it's close, let down after last week
TEN VS CLE - TN in a shocker
DET VS DAL - Detroit
PIT VS HOU - Houston in an upset
NO VS JAC - NO by 20
MIN VS KC - Minn gets first win but only by a FG
SF VS PHI - SF pulls upset, Philly gans go nutts
WAS VS STL - Redskins are for real
NYG VS ARI - Giants but close due to road trip
ATL VS SEA - Atlanta but close due to road trip
DEN VS GB - GB in a blow out
NE VS OAK - NE only because of loss to Buffalo
MIA VS SD - SD in a blowout
NYJ VS BAL - Balt by 10
IND VS TB - TB by 2 TD's on Monday night
Nice I go 13-2 on the weekend...need to be in Vegas baby...
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Bucs 17 (10 coming off Colts turnovers)
Colts 10 (7 coming from D)
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I plan on just sitting back and enjoy the game. The Colts are what they are and if we are going to say player X must do this or that to prove something I just don't get it. Watch the game, enjoy the game and relize that we are just not going to compete overall this season and understand it's what it is.
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I would have no issues making our O-line better than it is already. It is by far the most important (non-QB) position on the offense.
A bad RB can run behind a Good O-line, but a good RB can't run behind a bad O-line. (except barry sanders......) as for pass blocking it is the same.
Do you ever see Tom Brady getting hurried/rushed/sacked? not too often at all
How would Luck help us win a Superbowl in 2012-13-14? he wouldn't. We need players who help win now, not in 2016
No matter whom we draft...our window is basically closed, we need to start building for 2015 and on and to pass on Luck would be stupid.
How many fans were coaches on the NFL level?
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How do you critique something when you don't have full access to all the information?