Drew1023
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That's the game you guys, refs took the game, wrapped it up real nice and then handed it to the Eagles.
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Well, when the refs decide your team is going to lose and are this obviously against you its hard to have much hope.
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Played great all game. Apparently the refs have decided the Colts should lose this.
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Isn't the Eagles offense supposed to be really good? So is this quite an accomplishment for the defense?
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Can Luck throw a decent pass tonight?
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Luck is just not playing well tonight at all. Lucky the defense has been decent and the running game has been great.
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Don't think this is Andrew's night. Don't need him to be great with Bradshaw and Richardson playing like this though.
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This bend but don't break defense reminds me of something.
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They just needed to get down a bit before they started playing.
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I love this call, make it or don't make it. Love this call.
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Colts look great tonight. Only getting completely destroyed on both sides of the ball.
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They lost their offensive line.... If we can't stop them we seriously need help on defense
They shouldn't score more than 17
We do seriously need help on defense. I thought most people already knew this.
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I think statistical improvement isn't necessarily a good measure for developing as a QB, especially when those stats are tied to the players around him. I think what the OP was getting at is improvement of the QBs skill set - i.e. throwin mechanics, pocket awareness and presence, footwork, reading defenses, etc.
I'll give you that but its the only completely objective measure. Maybe, I'm mistaken though. How would you objectively measure those traits if not using stats?
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1st to 2nd year is the biggest. Generally, if they haven't "figured" it out by year 3, then you won't see any more improvement over that particular QBs career. There are always exceptions, but that's the general rule.
I think 1st to 2nd only shows if you are a flop or not. I can't find many quarterbacks that put up great numbers their second year. The majority simply go from being poor to average. So in essence you are correct, the leap from poor to average is a great leap but it doesn't tell you anything about their full potential.
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I know I'm going to be attacked for saying this but I think everyone is really off base. I'm sure there are better ways to do this but look at the year by year stats of each quarterback. For reference I have Manning, Brady, Rodgers and Brees. Go through and look at their stats and you'll find many of them did not become consistently great until their 4th to 6th year. The only one that contradicts this is Rodgers who has put up great stats from the first year he played a full 16 games but that didn't occur until his fourth year or Manning who also put up great third year numbers but then declined.. Also, Luck is by far, by far the superior running quarterback. Rodgers put up some numbers rushing in his early career but even that pales in comparison to Luck's rushing stats. You can also make the case that the league is more pass friendly now but I don't see how you accurately factor that into the argument. I'd argue that Luck is just as good if not better than many of them were in their early careers. Does that mean he is an elite quarterback? I don't think so, not yet anyway but neither were any of the other quarterbacks I listed in their first 3 years. Going back to the original question though I'd say give him at least a couple more years to become an elite quarterback and really reach his full potential.
http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmanning/2501863/careerstats
http://www.nfl.com/player/drewbrees/2504775/profile
http://www.nfl.com/player/aaronrodgers/2506363/careerstats
http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/careerstats
and Andrew Luck
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I think the best the organization can do at this point is to readjust expectations and not do anything that will hurt the team's future. There is literally no one that can replace a beast like Mathis and trying to is only going to lead to disappointment. Just need to accept that this year's season and defense are completely hopeless this year and try to make the best of it. Maybe the team can get some decent draft picks, however unlikely with Grigson, and the team can be successful next year. Does anyone know how many more years this team has before Hilton's, Allen's, Fleener's and Luck's rookie contracts are up because that is about how much time the team has to win a Superbowl before it completely regresses and doesn't have the cap space to but a contender together?
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How mature.
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Not without Mathis.
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We don't know exactly what conversations happen behind those doors, even with Peyton and Denver. You can't win the championship overnight, it takes time. This is Andrew's & teams 3rd year in the rebuild. We will get there!
I think the issue is that many of the best players on the Colts are on rookie contracts and when those are up the team is going to hit salary cap issues. These few years are the best this team will ever be and it has been very unlucky with injuries. Grigson by now you should realize cannot get big name players here the way that other teams like Denver can. These are the only real years Indianapolis can win a Superbowl and the team has been very unlucky. It's unfortunate but I see a long line of decent to good regular seasons ahead and several division titles and then several early playoff defeats. It will take years to see if that is an accurate prediction but I have a strong feeling it will be.
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Okay, so I underestimated the number by 8. You're making it seem like everyone on the board and every Colts fan in general said the Colts would blow out the Broncos.
I don't think anyone corrected it at all except for me and maybe one other person. I'm sure lots of people saw it. I'm not saying everyone should have said how ridiculous that was but you'd think if the majority of the forum disagreed it would have at least gotten a few more people saying so especially opposed to the 12 people that liked it and all the people agreeing with it,
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Yeah, all four of the people who said the Colts would blow out the Broncos.
You're here condemning an entire fan base, based on some exuberant fandom prior to a big game. If it makes you feel better about yourself, congratulations. To the rest of us, it makes you look rather petty.
The start of that thread was liked by 12 people not to mention all of the people that posted saying something similar. I don't know where you got the number 4, can you at least try to be honest and use facts or am I asking too much from you. I have a habit of doing that on this forum.
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So everyone else is delusional. Got it.
Not everyone but many of the people here are as evidenced by the thread and all the people going on about how the Colts would blow out the Broncos. Completely divorced from reality.
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"No hope" that is quite subjective and hard to quantify. Less hope? Sure. As far as I can see it, even the Bills have some hope in winning the Super Bowl.
You are correct, no realistic hope. I suppose any team in the second week could win the Superbowl.
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Just give it up and admit you are really a broncos or a pats fan in disguise, because I can see right thru your thinly veiled disguise !!!
No, I am just a realistic Colts fan that isn't delusional. I am quite aware I am in the vast minority.
Colts Vs. Eagles Monday Night Football Game Thread
in Colts Game Day
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It really never mattered. The game was over as soon as the Colts punted. Horrible play calling there at the end by Pep but the refs had already decided the Colts were not going to win.