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12 minutes ago, Superman said:
ITT: Kap sucks.
Also ITT: Brissett is "a winner."
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21 minutes ago, Superman said:
I never said Brissett played a bad game. Look, this whole angle started because I was told that Brissett is better than Morris because 'he won a regular season game,' and I called that argument bogus. I'm not arguing that Brissett is bad. I asked a straight up question about his ability as a football player, in relation to a player we already have. All I got was 'he's better because he beat the Texans.'
Your original question was "what's the difference between the 2". Not who is better. The 2 things I listed are valid differences. Look Supe I like Morris, I feel Morris should start over ST but for some reason (or at least through the preseason) the coaching staff isn't giving him the chance to show what he can do vs the 1's or in a regular season game that Luck is out. Yes I would rather have JB over ST. If it takes the Colts trading a WR that isn't being used correctly (if he thrives in NE but some of this is on PD) and bumping a QB that the staff will not give a fair shake, for a backup QB that gives the Colts a better chance to win a game during the regular season (when Luck is out) I'm all for it.
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3 minutes ago, Superman said:
I'm not upset about the trade. (My only regret is I think we didn't utilize Dorsett properly, and I think we're about to see what we missed out on, which sucks. I have no problem with Brissett.)
I'm just not interested in being told that because a QB took snaps in a game that "he won the game." The team won the game. The QB play in that game was inconsequential. If it makes you feel better, I agree that he didn't lose the game (obviously), but Belichick wasn't going to give him the freedom to lose that game for them.
I agree Supe about how PD was used here and on how BB was going to utilize JB in that game. Also if BB wasn't going to give him the freedom to lose that game then that also reflects his stat line. He did what he needed to do to insure the team got the W. That's all you can ask for from a rookie 3rd stringer. Your are right though, we are about to see whether it was the coaching using PD incorrectly or if what was there to use just wasn't that good.
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5 minutes ago, Superman said:
He didn't win the game. The team did. QB wins aren't a thing.
I'm not overlooking anything he did as a rusher, it simply wasn't relevant to my point at the time, which was about Brissett's passing ability.
Please stop trying to tell me that 11-19 for 103 yards is a winning effort.
Well it was in a winning effort as the team won so....And for the 3rd time (hopefully is a charm) I did not say he won the game by his lonesome but he was part of the patriots team that DID WIN the game he started. Add in his 50 yards rushing and 1 TD and its not to shabby vs the best D in the NFL as a rookie 3rd string QB. I'm not saying he is going to be all pro dang
I just think there is talent there for a good back up QB. Something this team is clearly lacking. I'm just not as upset about the trade as you obviously are.
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5 minutes ago, Superman said:
He didn't win jack. The Patriots did. LeGarette Blount had more rushing yards than Brissett had passing yards. The Texans also turned the ball over 3 times.
I don't have a problem with Brissett. I'm just not going to give him credit he doesn't deserve.
Where did I give him credit except for saying they won? I just pointed out other stats that were left out.
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1 minute ago, Superman said:
He didn't win jack. The Patriots did. LeGarette Blount had more rushing yards than Brissett had passing yards. The Texans also turned the ball over 3 times.
I don't have a problem with Brissett. I'm just not going to give him credit he doesn't deserve.
He won the game he started. I did not say he won the game by himself. I've made this clear twice now. I like how you over look his rushing yards w a TD. No Int's or turnovers so he didn't LOSE the game either. Also the team he started for at QB WON vs the best D in the NFL.
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1 minute ago, Superman said:
I was focused on his ability as a passer.
I know. I like to focus on everything a player can do.
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9 minutes ago, Superman said:
Let's stop saying he won that game. He didn't.
And Brock Osweiler was a 2nd round pick who is far more accomplished than Brissett. How much do you want him?
He won the game he started. No other way around that. I'm not saying he put the team on his back but they won. I like Morris as well but for some reason the higher ups are unwilling to give him a shot. I have been on the Morris train all preseason. Would rather Morris start than ST. I also agree that PD was not used correctly. It is what it is and if they aren't going to utilize PD correctly or cut him I would rather trade him for Lucks backup for the next 3-4 years. Doesn't hurt that JB has shown he can win a game in the NFL.
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6 hours ago, BR-549 said:
Spell it out for me too because nothing you wrote here makes much sense
agreed.
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6 hours ago, Superman said:
In that Houston game he was 11-19 for 103 yards, no picks, no TDs. He didn't win that game, the team did. He was mostly a footnote, at best a testament to Belichick's greatness. The next week they lost 0-16 to the Bills.
I don't mind adding him. But I think the Colts mismanaged Dorsett severely from the beginning. He also squandered opportunities. It is what it is, but I don't really think Brissett is clearly better than Morris.
8 carries for 48 yards with a 27 yard TD run.
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6 hours ago, Roger said:
He replaced Garropolo mid-game, which the Pats were leading and eventually won. He started two games, a win against Houston and a loss to Buffalo. He must be pretty poised.
Puzzling - he led them to a 27-0 win against Houston's D, and then couldn't score a point against Buffalo!
He hurt his thumb in the game against Buffalo. Went on IR shortly after that game.
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6 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Seriously?
You mean other than the fact that Brissett has started and played well in the NFL regular season and Morris struggled to play with the 1's in the pre-season?!?
Other than that there's almost no difference.
Come on now.....
Like. Also one was a 3rd round pick last year and won a regular season NFL game.
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2 hours ago, Smonroe said:
Admittedly, he's probably better than Tolzein, and he has game experience. I don't put much faith in preseason stats. Those who do not learn from Colt Brennan are doomed to repeat him.
So, we won't carry 4 QBs. Who goes?
JB didn't look to bad last year filling in for Brady & Gar before hurting his thumb. Won a game so that's more than any of our current active QB's have done
...As a rookie to boot. Yea I'm wondering which one goes as well...I'm assuming it's Morris even though I've liked what he has done the past two preseasons.
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I'll take a side of crow for thinking T-Rich would be good a player for the Colts when the trade first happened...Then I quickly realized that he couldn't find a hole even if the light at the end of tunnel led his way
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Just now, Jared Cisneros said:
I know you're not. I've just got into a lot of scuffles with people who disagree, and nearly all of them are casual fans who have less than 100 posts on here. I just don't think the defense is responsible for most of Luck's struggles. The O-Line, maybe. You can still put up points even if your defense is horrible though. Look at Drew Brees every week. Sorry for lashing out a bit!
No worries JC, all good
I'm a long time lurker....I agree Luck needs to cut down on the mistakes and I would like to see some of the play calling changed as well. It took 18 awhile to get it all down as well and he had Marv, Reggie & James on O....
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2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:
Again you aren't reading everything. Elway made 5 SBs. He made 3 before winning his last two.
My point is Luck has time
and hopefully the FO will start putting the pieces around him to succeed.
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2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:
I'm not going to get in a ten page fight with you about this. Read the whole thread before commenting on an early post. Whatever of it the mods didn't censor because it didn't fit their agenda.
Wasn't trying to argue lol just saying the Colts D was awful last year...Carr Is a great QB...I would just like to see what Luck can accomplish with a good D & Oline. I'm not attacking you JC
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15 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:
Yes, but Elway made 3 SB's. Luck hasn't even made 1 yet. He needs to improve in all facets of the game before we can even be considered a contender. Most of the young QB's today have either accomplished more than Luck or are starting to pass him by. He needs to get it together. I know he's been hurt, but there's a lot he needs to improve on.
Not to take anything away from Elway but 2 of those super bowls came at the age of 37 & 38.
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12 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:
Stat wise, yes they are, and Carr dismantled us when he played us last year. Better come up with a better argument than "no they aren't".
Dismantled the Colts D last year? Not a strong argument either.
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10 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:
I used to always check the newspaper at school to see if the Braves won or not. First thing I did each morning in class.
Would look at the stats and keep a copy all day for class lol.
lol same here but with the Cubs....Man I loved me some newspaper box scores
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On 1/1/2017 at 11:06 PM, LJpalmbeacher said:
I'm surprised Fleener didn't put up better numbers with Breese
No offense LJ but I'm not. Not even the great Drew can save Fleener.
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5 hours ago, csmopar said:
Dewayne Allen had 1 good game and missed a ton of blocks I mean a ton, not to mention dropped passes. Fleener at least caught balls and tried, Allen sucks period
Fleener had maybe one good game. I would of preferred to of kept neither one of them but with the O Line the way it was last year keeping Allen imo was the right choice. Now the contract Allen got is a whole different story. They both were not very good this year. I'll pass on both.
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4 hours ago, Jason_S said:
good god here comes more extreme nonsense. The Colts biggest loss this season was by 21 points. There was one loss by 16 points and one by 14. The other 5 losses were by 8 points or less.
This year is the key word. I cant even count all of the blow out losses (Jax last year) over the past five years. Most of the close losses this year were just awful losses.
I just think there is talent there for a good back up QB. Something this team is clearly lacking. I'm just not as upset about the trade as you obviously are.
I'm a long time lurker....I agree Luck needs to cut down on the mistakes and I would like to see some of the play calling changed as well. It took 18 awhile to get it all down as well and he had Marv, Reggie & James on O....
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