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2 hours ago, DaColts85 said:
I think he would be a good singing. Long rangy corner who is still only 28. Came off a solid season after staying healthy finally. Would be a good cheaper option to help add a vet to the room. Would be outside starting day 1 and could help Jaylen Jones and Brents improve with competition. Any thoughts?
Terrion Arnold will be our starter but I like him as an idea
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4 hours ago, Mr. Too Proud said:
Would you trade Ryan Kelly and our 4th
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Budda Baker and a 6th?
Contracts are almost a wash.... and
It's a nice draft for Centers
Early Rounds: JPJ, Zach Frazier, Graham Barton
Mid round: Sedrick Van Pran, Beaux Limmer, Tanor Bortolini
Late round: Drake Nugent and Matt Lee
Budda Baker have asked for a trade in the past and he could help our secondary
Kelly is a better player, $3M less, and will get a new contract.
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13 minutes ago, Hoose said:
Thought I’d take a shot at this.
The Colts make one trade after several targets go off the board before pick 15.
They deal with Arizona, trading Picks 15 and 151 for picks 27, 66 and 90, giving them three 3rd round picks( incl. their own). Gives them 5 picks in the top 90.
Pick 27: Cooper DeJean, CB/S, IowaPick 46: Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
Pick 66: Cam Hart, CB, N. Dame
Pick 82: Marshawn Kneeland, DE, W. Mich.
Pick 90: Mason McCormick, G, S. Dak. St.
RD 4 : James Williams, LB, MiamiRD 6 : Kristian Boyd, DT, N. Iowa
RD 7 : Isaiah Davis, RB, S. Dak. St.
Thoughts:
1. I think Cooper D. will be a stud, likely moving to FS and giving the Colts a solid future at the position. Just a pure, uber-talented football player.
2. Roman Wilson is probably a first round pick in any normal NFL draft. This one just happens to be amazingly stacked at WR.
3. Hart, Kneeland and McCormick can contribute their first year and are future starters, as is Williams.
4. Boyd and Davis are solid depth.
5. I can certainly see the Colts grabbing a block first TE later in the draft as a replacement for MAC.Could absolutely see Ballard taking that deal. Good job.
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1 hour ago, csmopar said:
I’ve been a big Ballard fan myself. And I was starting to get frustrated with him myself. But then I got to thinking, we still don’t actually know what we have with AR. Yeah he flashed, but so did RG3 and others. The questions surrounding his durability are valid. So why hamstring the team with giant contracts if we still do not know? Ballard can’t come out and say that directly, but I would bet that is his thought process and honestly, it’s one I’d agree with
With so many "incompletes" with important 1st and 2nd year players, a move for that guy that fills a big need, that player or two that makes us a SB contender, clearly the timing isn't right.
The rumor that Sneed wants to be the highest paid allows me to believe that once Ballard knew that, he was never in.
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1 hour ago, stitches said:
It just feels like I'm having the exact same thoughts and feelings about what's happening with the Colts and Ballard's approach every single year. There hasn't been a single season since... 2020 when I felt like... "oh we got better this off-season... nice"
Pretty much the only hope is that Ballard has another 2018 type of draft and that's where the strengthening of the team comes from... but it's just so rare for rookies to be really great positive contributors... it's hard to be optimistic about it... at least in the immediate.
"really great positive contributors -in the immediate"
I really do hope your health is good.
Well, we will have Taylor for the whole season.
I watched our season opener with Jaxs over the weekend. AR was 17-22 at one point and running a speeded up offense from the getgo. His head is going to be really straight in year 2.
Downs was breaking their ankles and picking their zones apart. He had 67 catches last season. He is a stud.
Ogeltree and Mallory were solid rookies, can't you believe in their 2nd year jump? Woods can still be really good. AR getting the ball downfield to Pierce.
Cross was making plays down the stretch. We need a 2nd year bump from Juju. A little bump from Raimann. Definitely no more seive behind Grover.
2nd year of Steichen. I fully think we will be better.
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4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
If Ballard is not going to get aggressive with a QB on a rookie deal he ever will.
If we are indeed in the final two in bidding for Sneed, that is Super Aggressive.
Our negotiator knows more about Tennessee's limit than we do. Perhaps he knows already we have the best offer and Sneed will have to settle for it or KC finds a way to keep him. No doubt his preference.
No since bidding against ourselves!
With Sneed we are likely a 3rd place team and not in the playoffs. So the draft being very successful and another year of improvement from our youth is what's MOST important.
Not so important is signing a S and CB from what's left in FA to hopefully finish 9-8.
The waiting game serves us just fine. Nothing wrong with us rolling over $15M into next year's Cap when hopefully we only have 1-2 holes left to upgrade. Then we spend on a stud/studs to go after the Ring.
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6 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:
Seems pretty clear to me Sneed wants more than the colts want to pay. Doesnt look like an going negotiation to me at all. In the past CB has talked about how he makes and offer and doesnt budge much from there, maybe on details but not if they are millions of $ off.
This is consistently true. It's how you prepare to manage your cap for future signings of your own players.
A very wise man (me) has posted that you need a good number of good players, that have played together, in their years 4-7, to be a really good team.
We have a pretty talented group in that bracket. The Ryan cap hits were a real setback.
Pray that Pierce, Woods, Cross, and Juju prove their merit.
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19 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:
The very young DB group needs a vet presence on the back end
I hope they get the much needed FS in FA
I would rather have a FA CB, but this defense
MIGHT/ SHOULD......... can run with less expensive, zone CBsPass rush makes all DBs look MUCH better.......
No pass rush makes even good DBs look poorly....... In this defense
McCloud came here a few years ago to add depth. The more he played the better our D was. We absolutely need that for this year's D.
Steichen has to order Bradley to have more timely blitz packages. To do that we must have one CB we can trust on an island. Like Gilmore did.
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1 hour ago, w87r said:
So slept on the Sneed situation.
I don't know if it's draft compensation or contract compensation?
I'm starting to think it's Sneed and his indecision on if he wants to leave KC and get paid or stay and go for the 3 peat on the tag.
He's already been on record talking about it and about wanting to stay in KC.
When asked about the chance to be a part of a team with a chance to win back-to-back-to-back Super Bowls, Sneed said he's hopeful.
“Two is legendary, but three? You never get tired of getting rings,” Sneed said. “Hopefully I’m with the Chiefs. Hopefully I’m still here and we can go back and repeat.”
I can't imagine him wanting to play for us. Or if he must being interested in more than a 3 year and out contract.
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34 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
The guy being mentioned handles the Colts contracts and making sure they fit under the cap. The assumption is he made Sneed’s contract fit. Time will tell if that’s what it means or not.
He is our Capolgist. Per Ballard he also negotiates the contracts. He also does the actuarial for our multi-year plan.
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53 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:
Withtt the way Reggie announced on twitter about how we basically need to wait on Peirce and not judge him yet makes me think we won't be in on a WR in the first. I think it will be either Bowers or CB or edge player. If we got Sneed then it's edge or Bowers. Especially if Verse is still there.
Ballard gives a voice to his scouts and I am sure his coaches come making the final board.
I would bet Reggie stood up for Pierce, and still is, and Ballard said he pounded the table in our Last draft for Downs. Yes that mattered.
An excellent QB doesn't require all great receivers. I could see Steichen believing he has plenty of TE weapons with the 5 we have now. Stashing one on injury to start the season is easy.
And finding a rookie WR this season in round 3-4 or later isn't a challenge.
We have great options. Trust in Reggie.
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36 minutes ago, Goatface Killah said:
Right so even the guys that made the pro bowl dont count unless they are perfect.
Nelson doesnt count because hes just a guard.
Taylor doesnt count because hes just a RB.
Ive heard all this before.
Maybe you heard, buy you ain't listening. And you pulled "perfect" outta your *.
The subject class was 7 years of drafting defense. You failed, just like Ballard. Maybe next year!
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6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Leonard was a 3-time All-Pro.
Thank you. For the sake of discussion please continue, even those that "should" have been Pro Bowlers. Franklin? There are some really good 3 down LB's. He fails at that.
We're talking 7 years here.
Name another of Ballard's defense draft picks that were here, are here now, that was a big loss, would be a big loss.
I wish us a Lotta luck with our next couple drafts. And that Pierce, Woods, Cross, Juju all become SB caliber contributors. And of course Anthony must become superb.
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27 minutes ago, Goatface Killah said:
Sure Doug, you can spend your life poo poo'ing on everything if thats what you want to do.
What elite corner was out there to sign outright?
Would you then accuse him of settling for lesser talent? Of course you wouldve cause thats your thing.
Youre takes are boring and predictable. I wish I could bet on them, because I would be filthy.
Name a defensive player he has drafted that has made a Pro Bowl.
So that is a boring question? Hardly, it's a slap against the heads of Irsay, Ballard, and Dodds. The answer to the question is that someone sucks at their job.
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3 hours ago, csmopar said:
I’d would say….
Oh it would be big alright 👍
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1 hour ago, Smonroe said:
I think it’s the weakest group. Kenny is the only one we’re sure of. Juju looked decent, but he played about half a season.
Jones did okay, but we can’t continue to say “for a late draft pick”. Draft position no longer matters, play does.
Flowers has started something like 5 games in two years. He also showed promise. But we don’t know if teams will expose him like they did Jones once they see his tendencies.
So, yes, I think a veteran CB is a huge need…and safety isn’t that far behind.
If indeed we are the winning bidder with KC, that is proof enough that it's understood by our leadership that CB is a monumental issue. To win at least 2 playoff games and the SB you have to be able to compete against superb QB's and receivers. Today, we have nothing we can count on with our back four.
That is why this financial commitment is plum goofy, if we are giving up pick 15. Take Q. Mitchell on the rookie pay scale and have at it.
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13 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
Yeah I brought up Adams because he turned into a pro-bowler for the Colts.
Adams played deep and had 5 int. because bum QB's over threw their receivers and hit him right in the chest. This made him a pro-bowler.
Blackmon had 3 of his four this way last season.
Larry Brown got a SB MVP that way.
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1 hour ago, NFLfan said:
Poor Richard. I put him on ignore. Just to much drivel.
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26 minutes ago, csmopar said:
Why ? They already signedWilson…
Would it be because its Wilson?
You know, the old, stubby, rag armed dude not worth signing for beyond one season. I'd go with that. And Fields is good with more upside.
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12 minutes ago, Dobbinblitz said:
This is the issue with waiting out a player tagged by their current team. Other teams continue to fill holes and players like Fuller are signed to reasonable contracts. This once again, and unfortunately, has the feeling of same old Colts Free Agency period management. The Colts have needs for difference makers that cannot all be filled successfully in the draft in one year. Here is to hoping for good news on Thursday.
We are not on a one year build, how could this be more clear? We are still on a 2-3 year build to be a SB contender.
It's possible Ballard signs Snead to a Big 4 year deal that would cover our future SB run. But you have to understand you would be paying him for two years of Big Fully guaranteed $$$ with little hope of seeing a AFC Championship game. By then we have a number of sizable new contracts to consider.
This guy Fuller wouldn't likely be a difference maker over Ballards young CB's, in our weak defense.
We have so many needs on defense, RG, WR, that we have to hit on our 1st 4 draft pics.
Then next year fill that last couple big needs.
There are only Four remaining F Agents that are worth upgrading our 2024 roster.
34 year old Kevin Zeitler at RG
33 year old Tyrone Smith at LT. Move Raimann to RT and Smith to RG. Best line in the NFL!!33 year old Stephon Gilmore
30 year old Justin SimmonsThey are the best remaining at their positions. Sign bottom 3 for a more fun 2024.
Wisdom says they will wait for the right team, a good team, with a Playoff likelihood.
But No, Ballard will keep his powder dry for post draft opportunities.
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1 hour ago, MikeCurtis said:
An additional note
Richard Sherman was a ZONE CB that was one of the best ever. He was feared in the league.
He was a FIFTH round draft pick
He was 6' 3" with long arms, and you would expect him to run a 4.3 forty..... right ??????
NOPE..... he logged a 4.56 40 time.
ZONE CB play does NOT need to be 4'3 40
Who knows what the Colts will do...... I dont
But I think we keep thinking that we need a 1st round pick on a man to man CB
A man to man CB (Unless we are going to start playing hybrid defenses) Is completely wasted in this defense
So having a corner you can leave on an island most of the game is a waste.
Nuts! Stephen Gilmore anyone. How awful it would be to consistently have a safety that could roam much of the game.
And all teams attempt to mix their coverages many times a game. Is that hybrid?
Sherman did that how many years ago, and when CB's were allowed to be more physical? Sherman had an all-time great free safety that ran in the 4.3s to cover his you know what. Their defense was stacked with superior talent at all three levels. MAnd Sherman was a mental Giant. This is a nearly irrelevant example.
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1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:
In the spirit of robust discussion….
Im not sure I understood a sentence you wrote. Honestly. Apologies, this will be a long response.
Your second paragraph…. About Davis is not a serious pass rush threat. Why would he be? He reportedly weighs 325-335. He’s a pure nose tackle. His game is stopping the run. So is Stewart’s. Why would Davis be a pass rushing threat?
Ironically, Stewart’s value was clearly established when he was suspended for 6 weeks. The Colts couldn’t stop the run between the tackles. Thats why we brought Stewart back and have now brought Davis in to support that. Bryan was a failure. And your whole focus on Davis is that he brings no pass rush. By positional definition, he’s not supposed to. And I think you know this.
Next paragraph…. “If Ballard is taking cues from Partridge about team building and asset allocation”. Huh? First, all Partridge is doing is telling Ballard if he likes the player or not, can he help the Colts or not. Like Reggie Wayne said I like Josh Downs. But he’s not telling Ballard how much to pay Davis. That’s entirely up to Ballard. Partridge has zero impact on asset allocation. He's there to make every DLineman as good as he can be. And that’s all. Remember, Partridge could’ve looked at Davis and said no. If you like the Partridge hire, then you have to think Davis is going to be the backup to Stewart that Taven Bryan never was. I don’t blame Partridge for Ballard paying Davis 2/14. I think Ballard and Bradley have a big vision for Davis.
Next paragraph…. You’re back complaining that Stewart and Davis bring nothing to the pass rush. I don’t know why you bother saying this. By definition their job is to stop the run. Period. And the resource the Colts can use to help the pass rush is Charlie Partridge! Thats why the Colts hired him. To make every DL the Colts have even better. I don’t know why you’re not celebrating the hire? The fact CP hasn’t coached in the NFL means zero to me. He was wanted by multiple NFL teams. He was wanted by Saban at Alabama. Partridge picked the Colts. I think he’s a Rock Star!
As to the direction of the roster…. I understand the very strong concern. The Franklin contract was a shock to everyone. But I have to believe Ballard signed guys like Stewart, Davis and Franklin because those guys were getting offers that the Colts had to meet or exceed. And the Colts are seriously concerned about stopping the run. More pass rush is coming in the draft. And more pass rush is coming from the new DL coach. The odd thing to me is this…. For years you’ve been among the leaders telling posters here Ballard will make his moves in the 2nd week. Now you appear to flip sides and are among those complaining about the moves he’s made the first 3 days, even though he’s done more this year than any another first week of FA that Ballard has had.
To be clear…. I think a lot of this is Ballard-fatigue. Years of making the same arguments over and over again, with not enough to show for it. I get it. But I’m on record as saying I think Ballard’s seat is hotter than some think it is. If things don’t get better soon, I can see Irsay throwing a fit like he did when he fired Frank. Not saying this season, but sooner than some think. I hope things will be better for all when we see how FA and the draft plays out. I’m hopeful there will be better days ahead.
Apologies again for this long response. If I’ve somehow misunderstood or misinterpreted your meaning I’m sure you’ll straighten me out.
When the QB drops to pass our 4 man d-lines job is to get to the passer.
Grover means we are rushing with 3. Now his backup is even worse, rather than at least somewhat better. Seems like buffoonery. Not complicated.
Franklin should be out of the game in passing situations. Ditto.
Ballard/Dodds secondary build looks hopeless today. Their big 4 year development project with Blackmon, he is decent, is a bust. Let him walk because he isn't the guy to build a really good D with. It's sad.
Is Speed going to be better all-around than Franklin? You going to pay him $10M for our March to the SB?
Ballard/Dodds have a vision for mediocrity. Our wheels are spinning in the mud.
Kenny is good, but if he has to chase someone across the field he is toast like a rookie. We are not going anywhere anytime soon with our roster, so investing in players that bring a certain level of mediocrity so we can make another run at 9-8 doesn't bring real hope to the Ultimate mission.
Nothing complicated about this.
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3 hours ago, Solid84 said:
I don't expect (or want really) Ballard to make the big splashes in FA. I do want him to make the medium splashes.
Ballard basically only uses FA for 1-2 year JAGs he hopes can fill the holes he can't fill in the draft. It's not working for us or anyone else. You NEED to plugs holes with reliable talent. Unless you never miss in the draft, solely using that to add talent isn't enough. No succesful team does what Ballard does.
Look at what the Chiefs are doing, the Ravens, the Bengals. They add talent in FA to supplement their draft hits. Sure, they are further along than us, but when Ballard has a tendency to draft raw, traitsy guys who need 2-4 years of development we're never going to get there, because if one is a miss we're once again behind those 2-4 years a new guy will take to develop. He needs to use FA to add talent when he misses.
In a nutshell, this is indeed why we have so many weak spots.
If we win more than 7 games this season it will be because we win the turnover/penalty battles. And the coaching. Not because of talent.
We have been poor at developing his and Dodds "winners". So unless someone else influences our draft selections, we are stuck with mediocrity.
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13 minutes ago, stitches said:
Precisely because I don't expect AJ Dillon to be one of the cheapest options for a backup RB and precisely because we are already spending 14M a year on Taylor. If he comes at a vet minimum or thereabout, I will change my tune. I just don't expect that. Again - resource allocation... we continue spending more and more resource on the things that are not the most pressing needs for this team. We need to improve the passing game on O and we need to improve the pass defense on D the most right now. And instead we are spending 7m a year for backup nose tackle who in the best case scenario will barely see the field and more money on a backup RB when teams are getting not just backups but starters late in the draft or even as UDFAs... I don't mind us getting depth... I mind us spending more than we need to for backups at non-essential positions.
So Taylor is out for the season with a training camp injury.
Steichen and our GM put their heads together and choose a particular insurance plan so that we can have a good enough run game to protect our QB and keep us competitive.
And you are pre-but hurt over the possibility of player and price.
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I would say we are desperate for a smart, experienced safety to help QB our secondary.
Surely Simmons will wait it out for a highly competitive team to sign with.
Hyde makes sense but he probably has a list of places he prefers. lol
I was sickened by the CB Baker Jr. Signing. He looked that bad to me. Oh well, prove me wrong.
T Bryan was generally not so good, But, he actually did make some good plays at 3T later in the season. He will compete for his roster spot.
I really like the splurge for Raekwon Davis. We had a big need for a quality interior rotational guy. Johnson absolutely could not hold his own inside. Playing beside Davis should make Bryan more effective. Let's hope.