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Please don't feed the crazny Moose.
Barring injury the result is in... Dayo will be traded... at final cuts.
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On 4/27/2024 at 1:28 PM, w87r said:
So he grades out decent in weight top 80%
Vertical top 80%
But just about everything else grades out pretty low, down to hands and arm size, wing span and bench press, of course
So when looking at these guys want to find the blue and green
Where the rubber hits the road.
The concerns.
Top heavy
Shorter arms
19 reps hard to believe
Not a bender as is Fries
Fries can't be counted on when we need a yard. They get under his pads time and again. All Gonc needs to do is be equal in the run game but a better pass blocker. This would be a big help.
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On 4/30/2024 at 5:24 PM, Goatface Killah said:
I put very little stock into those kinds of stats.
I read it as okay he made a bunch of tackles because those in front of him weren't getting it done. He got a number like he was one of the best LBers.
Otherwise, compared to good peers, he was a seive.
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26 minutes ago, RollerColt said:
Seemed pretty grateful on the phone call with Ballard. I know it's probably edited but he seems pretty happy to be a Colt. If I were a wide receiver I'd love to have Reggie Wayne teaching me!
He quickly was on the phone with his college coach who told him yeah keep the chip, but , I forget his exact words but it was about staying on the mission. AD was angry.
This coach was coming to Indy to support him. I play a psychologist on TV, his coach understands what we might call the maturity issues. It will be very good for him to talk with our people to help make the plan.
Reggie has talked in the past regarding at least one of those big, late round prospects that we spent years on and he turned into nothing, Strahan maybe.
Reggie saying, if I just had that speed. I can only imagine how ecstatic Reg is. We are going to run a lot, and we have so many diverse weapons it will be hard to get 1200 yards and 10+ TD's. Steichen and his staff
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1 hour ago, PRnum1 said:
The only problem with that approach is going into FA his price will be higher.
Extend him now for cheaper
The fully guaranteed $$ has to be exremely enticing. IMO, with the addition of Latu this increases Dayos value on the inside. More snaps giving Buckner a few more snaps off, and also playing inside with Buckner.
Year 4 is the beginning of NFL Prime. Their best years are ahead and I think they will be SB caliber teammates. We should be negotiating to extend both.
Price Price Price
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38 minutes ago, RollerColt said:
Disagree. He'll forever remember all the other teams that passed on him. He's a smart kid, and will use that as extra motivation.
That is a given regarding the other teams. And everytime he looks Ballard in the eye, et tu Ballard? The day AD signs his 2nd contract with our Colts maybe he gets to look Ballard in the eye with an ear to ear grin. Sounds great to me.
On tape he physically looks like a future Colts Legend. I'm buying!
It is a good thing though for the young big headed athletes to start out humble. The NFL roll call for variations of "Antonio Brown Syndrome" are legend.
X our fingers.
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16 hours ago, RollerColt said:
For what it’s worth: there are videos of a younger Chris Ballard ranting and cursing about college players getting anonymous negative reports. He really gets heated on that subject.
Of course and with his, these are just 19-20 year old kids... who wants to be accountable for everything they did at that age.
AD will forever remember that Ballard passed on him as if he didn’t care if he got him or the next guy.
Ballard throwing a cussing rant that got some extra playtime was Mandatory. In the end though it all falls on Mitchell to live a good life and work hard.
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17 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
I hope flowers gets his explosiveness back because we need more speed and explosiveness at the other outside corner. I wish we had more speed. I would take a guy like Rodger’s over a guy like jones every day of the week.
Roger's could get turned but catch back up before the ball got there.
I was rooting for Flowers especially because up he did run I n the 4.3s.
It is so sad that "intelligent" posters here post endless endlessly that in Gus's D our corners don't need speed.
With two deep safeties any good QB will pick it apart with current rules.
Playing single high when they stack receivers the CB on the opposite side is really playing regular old everyday man. Per Pro football Reference Gus" played man 28% of the time. What kind of madness is it to put a 6'2" CB that ran a 4.57 on ANY of the Many 4.3's WR's? This is your plan?
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9 minutes ago, Superman said:
We don't have to rehash this, right? You know where I stand, I know where you stand. My earlier post was tongue in cheek, with the expectation that you could take the joke.
My thinking is that the Colts had several players rated similarly to AD Mitchell, which is why they were comfortable trading back. If they had him as a standout BPA on their board, they probably would have stayed at #46. JMO.
With our need and what the rest of the mock World, talking heads thought of AD, we should have been trading up for AD, as we did Taylor.
There is something known and dark with AD and that would be why he was still available and Ballard risked losing him.
We will surround him with good people and love to lift him up and watch him mature. He definitely can be a very important part of how we make it to an AFC Championship game.
Watching video of him using his shoulders to turn DB's is AWESOME. It works any lefel.
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2 hours ago, DougDew said:
"I (nobody) don't have any idea how this stuff will play out". "We got lucky". It means what it means.
Jesus, get off of it. I'm not a Grigson fan and never was. I was called that by people who probably think one GM should be fired because the new guy will have so much more genius and clairvoyance. I'm not the guy who calls for firing the GM. I know the next guy might not have any better success.
Finally, after about 6 or 7 drafts did it start to sink in with many, that the new guy doesn't have gobs more special knowledge or talent than anybody else in that profession has.
He just doesn't!
The great news for us is Steichen's brilliance, and Irsays daughters scrutiny.
As Steichen proves himself his influence and power will grow.
Year two looks to be a lot of hard work but better football.
And yes Ballard needed a considerably better HC to make things go.
2025, we should be a very tough out on Sundays. I hope we oldsters make it!
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15 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:
Personally I think even with Flowers and Brents we still have one of the worst CB groups in the league.
They are both just guys
I do not look forward to seeing "Ballard's" # 1 CB Juju matched up with our top NFL #1's. They will tie Icabod in knots. Gus will be required to assign him deep help often, very often.
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1 hour ago, stitches said:
Here's another positive indication about Mitchell. He seems to have great relationship with his WR coach at Texas and this is their call after he got drafted by the Colts. You aren't getting that type of personal relationship if the guy was a bad worker or had bad attitude with coaches or something of the sort. It seems like his coach genuinely cares about him and wants the best for him and seems like AD reciprocates with a lot of respect for the guy that helped him get where he is now.
So yeah... I guess at this point I will trust Ballard and assume it wasn't grandstanding just to make ourselves look better.
Lets hope he continues to work hard and lets hope he proves all the naysayers wrong.
Mitchell is going to need watching after by grown-ups. He had a low level response to where he was drafted. And Ballard passing on him tells me AD has issues and they are known in the community.
I believe he will have great support from teammates and coaches so hopefully his friends and family help him do things right.
Watching his moves taking guys deep looks very mature and Exciting. Oh ya!
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4 hours ago, Goatface Killah said:
I think we need someone to just make open field tackles, as simple as that sounds. I felt like our secondary was pretty poor at just simply getting guys to the ground.
There is way too much diving at peoples legs in the open field. And Budda might be the best open field tackler in all of football. The guy is a demon. He had like 150 tackles a few years back as a safety, which is incredible.
Budda is the closest thing to Bob Sanders I have seen since he retired. He doesnt lay the huge hits Bob did (to be fair Bob was juiced to the gills and a literal tank). But I mean, that heat seeking missle type of guy who just ends plays with picture perfect pursuit and tackling of the ball carrier.
I believe in tackling being the most overlooked skill in football. People dont seem to see the value in it, or know how to do it. but it is a lot of times what seperates really bad defenses from good defenses. I felt like we gave up like 1000 extra yards last year due to poor tackling.
I actually used to teach heads up tackling at football camps, so its a bit of a sore spot with me. But I see a lot of horrible tackling around the league.
Also, Blackmon is our ballhawking free safety in this scenario. I know a lot of people see him as more of a SS, but not me. I dont think he is top tier at it, but he is solid at both spots, and solid is fine with me.
For his career Budda has 10% missed tackles. Pretty high actually.
His big year with all those tackles he had a 72.7% completions rating.
And a 125 passer rating and gave up 4 tds. Yowwww!
Since winning is everything, I see our management team adding 3 more pieces to strengthen our chances. I would expect at S, LB, RB. Barring injury, going right up to final cuts works for us.
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1 hour ago, MikeCurtis said:
An experienced and talented FS is the missing piece to our defense
IMHO that is the single most important piece that we need to fill before the season starts
That person is NOT on our current roste
At this stage this is the top priority
You can play less experienced CBs with a star fast and was very effective. He is still just 22. The question is, is he understanding the D and able to make quick decisions. I believe after 10 starts next season we can have a really good player.
Rodney McCloud came in here and really solidified the S rotation. He was still solid last season.
We need that kind of guy. The war room is figuring out if they want to spend now, or wait and see what safeties come available up to final cuts.
Cross finally got a couple starts and was playing fast
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20 minutes ago, w87r said:
Partridge is giving all kinds of recommendations it seems.?
It's a huge deal that we are banking that we have an upgrade at RG with his 3rd rd recommendation.
And this guy's measurables don't put him on Ballard's radar.
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15 hours ago, csmopar said:
Our secondary actually played pretty well after week 10.
second: he did NOT focus on RAS this draft. In fact this draft was very much production based from our first pick to our latest. No real long term projects like in years past.
as for the legion of boom different era.
Our 3rd rd pick projects as a low ceiling future RG starter.
4th round C projects as being pushed back into our QB's face against quality caliber DT's.
There is nothing else drafted that projects beyond 2-3 year developmental, long shot, low ceiling future starters. We desperately needed a 3rd high ceiling future starter quality prospect. And we needed him Now!
It's fantastic that we got TJ Watt-CD Lamb comps the first 2 rounds.
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3 minutes ago, stitches said:
Last year I had a very good feel about what we were after. This year I've been kind of off so... Not really sure. Ballard mentioned depth with both OL and WR. I wouldn't completely rule out us double dipping at both positions.
There are good centers left. French and Pinter are not impressive.
I bet there are good slots still available. RB competition.
I give up on secondary. I'm ready for Diggs and Gilmore and let's kick tail
This season.
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12 minutes ago, stitches said:
Dane Brugler's scouting report on Adonai Mitchell in his draft guide:
6. ADONAI MITCHELL | Texas 6022 | 205 lbs. | 3JR Missouri City, Texas (Cane Ridge) 10/8/2002 (age 21.55) #5
BACKGROUND: Adonai (ADD-an-I) “AD” Mitchell, the youngest of four boys, was born and raised in Missouri City (20 miles southwest of Houston). His mother (Darcy Padgett), a former model, and father (Norman Mitchell), a former stand-up comedian and actor, moved to Houston in 2000 and founded the Bee Busy Wellness Center, a nonprofit organization geared towards low-income individuals and families. In pee-wee and youth football, Mitchell was the kid with the ball in his hands and primarily played quarterback. His older brothers played basketball, but after trying it for two years, Mitchell decided that sport wasn’t for him. He spent his freshman year of high school at Westbury Christian School (a private school in Houston), and the coaches kept him at quarterb ack. To raise his recruiting profile, Mitchell transferred to Ridge Point High School (class 6A school in Fort Bend County) prior to his sophomore season and moved to wide receiver. As a junior in 2018, he earned second team All-District honors with 25 receptions for 378 yards and nine offensive touchdowns (five rushing, three receiving, one passing). He helped Ridge Point to a 10-2 record and the 2018 district championship. With Mitchell still struggling to garner recruiting attention, his father moved to the Nashville area for a year so his son could train with Buck Fitzgerald at the National Playmakers Academy. Mitchell transferred to Cane Ridge High School in Antioch, Tenn., for his senior season in 2019. After filling in at quarterback for the first three games, he moved back to wide receiver and led the team with 49 catches for 795 yards and 11 touchdowns. Mitchell helped Cane Ridge to a 9-4 record and state playoff appearance, and he was named the 2019 Region 5 -6A Athlete of the Year.
A four-star recruit, Mitchell was the No. 63 wide receiver in the 2021 recruiting class and the No. 10 recruit in Tennessee. He was originally in the 2020 recruiting class but decided to reclassify to the 2021 class and spent the ‘20 season training. After moving to Tennessee for his senior season, Mitchell attended several recruiting camps and received his first FBS offers (Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina and Tennessee). He picked up an offer from Ole Miss and Lane Kiffin in January 2020 and committed a few months later. However, Mitchell continued receiving offers (Auburn and Texas) and taking visits. In July 2020, he flipped his commitment to Georgia and former offensive coordinator Todd Monken. Mitchell enrolled early and was the No. 16 recruit in head coach Kirby Smart’s 2021 class (top receiver in the class). His daughter (Icylinn) was born in the summer of 2021, and Mitchell’s parents have been raising her while Mitchell has been i n school. After two national championships in two seasons in Athens, Mitchell entered the portal with the intention of moving closer to his daughter, and he transferred to Texas — a two-hour car ride away. After one season in Austin, Mitchell elected to skip his senior season and enter the 2024 NFL Draft.
STRENGTHS: Long, limber and loose athlete … long-striding acceleration to quickly reach his top speed … light-footed and fluid in his releases and at the top of routes to stem his way over the top of corners (see his stutter-and-go touchdown vs. Alabama in 2023) … able to gear down on command to drive corners off the route and give his quarterback a clean target … flashes extra juice when the ball is in the air … able to high point with outstanding body control for in-air adjustments … tracks the ball into his hands (one drop over the last two seasons) … grew up competing with three older brothers, and his toughness stands out on tape … al ways looking for someone to block … led the Big 12 in touchdowns in 2023 … competes with big-play swagger and has a history of clutch touchdowns in his team’s most important games (caught the go-ahead touchdown in Georgia’s 2021 national title victory).
WEAKNESSES: Owns a modest build with lean features and stringy muscle tone … below-average play strength, and physical defensive backs will give him trouble early and late in the route … catch radius casts a wide net, but he has smallish hands and doesn’t always play strong to the football (caught just four contested balls in 2023) … his route running loses rhythm at times, and he needs to be more consistently deliberate with each step … averaged just 3.2 YAC in 2023 and is not known for his creativity or ability to break tackles after the catch … wasn’t a high-volume target in college (three or fewer catches in 10 of his 14 games at Texas) … missed most of the 2022 season at Georgia because of a high left ankle sprain (September 2022).
SUMMARY: A one-year starter at Texas, Mitchell was an outside wide receiver in head coach Steve Sarkisian’s spread, RPO offense. After helpi ng Georgia win a pair of national championships, he transferred to Texas (to be closer to his daughter) and helped the Longhorns reach the College Football Playoffs. He also became just the fifth player in Texas history with 11 touchdown grabs in a single season. Despite some wasted movements in his routes that need to be tightened up, Mitchell cleanly accelerates/decelerates at will with the fluid movement skills to create separation out of his breaks (his 81.8 percent first down/touchdown rate in 2 023 was the best among the receivers in this draft class). Though not the strongest player through contact, he has the hand-eye coordination and pliable frame to adjust, high point and reach throws most receivers cannot. Overall, Mitchell needs to become a more detail-focused receiver to fully unlock his talent, but he has the body length, loose athleticism and catch-pointskills to be a chain-moving weapon. He projects as a rangy, outside-the-numbers target with the lean, limber body type reminiscent of the late Chris Henry.
GRADE: 1st-2nd Round (No. 33 overall)
He looks quick and breaks ankles near the goal line.
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24 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:
Pizza, beer and wings will make you gain weight.
It always makes me gain weight
So would oodles and boodles of strudel, brats, fried taters and warm 🍺.
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1 hour ago, MikeCurtis said:
Agreed
Freeland will come back 10-15 lbs stronger (I believe)
I view him as our next man up at Tackle
This kid will grow as well, possibly taking the RG spot in the future
Great pick up
Hopefully Freeland is hanging with Raimann pounding Ramen and an abundance of iron.
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10 hours ago, DougDew said:
I've been suggesting for weeks that the right side of the oline needed to be stabilized, even with a late first round pick if all of the pick 15 choices were gone. I was wanting OT Kiran Ahmedejie at 82 but CHI took him about 5 picks before us. Ballard moved up 3 spots to get Gonclaves. Hopefully, the best 5 olineman start in 2024, no matter at what positions along the right side.
Bebe was just a few spots ahead also. We sacrificed two higher upsides to get our new oline coach his guy. Oh well! As long as we end up with an upgrade to good ol Will we take the win.
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8 hours ago, twfish said:
I’m curious where he would sit at as a OG instead of OT
In run blocking he would be similar to Fries in that with a little angle he can do a good job getting push. Fries is over matched trying to drive block because he isn't a bender. This guy isn't a bender but carries maybe 15 more lbs.
Gonc has been very successful as a pass blocker. If he can get some push in short yardage of which we desperately could use improvement at RG, and he proves an upgrade in pass pro over Fries, then yippee. To get that improvement this year in the 3rd round would be a real plus.
According to him his big toe injury was serious. Said he was 85-90% at his pro day and had only started training 3 weeks before. The 19 reps seemed to be a personal best. Yikes!
He had 21 college starts in 39 games. He was crossed trained and played LT, RT, LG, RG. This was from our new oline coach.
A big plus, and he apparently is very quick off the snap.
He is big but not so light on his "toe", so I believe he would get humbled playing tackle. I doubt worse than Freeland was last season so...
I'm impressed with his demeanor, and he is consider tough.
I give this pick a B. Pray for the toe!!
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6 hours ago, Myles said:
I like the Matt Goncalves pick. He has played left and right tackle but is projected to be an NFL guard.
We already have a 6'6" RG that can't bend. At least 19 rep Gonc has tons of weight to try to shove with. Unfortunately, the battle with players of equal strength at the NFL level goes to he that goes low. Fries gets knocked back consistently by anyone they put in front of him much of the time, and especially when we need him the most, in short yardage.
If this guy was drafted to play tackle to me means Freeland isn't expected to put on the bulk to be our future starting RT. lol
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2 hours ago, stitches said:
This is reminiscent of his defense of CJ Stroud last year. Let's hope AD has similar success and similarly proves people wrong.
So the kid has flaws and has been called out publicly.
It's actually doing our Colts a big favor. Mitchell has to prov'em wrong.
Ballard gets to support him publicly but also look him in the eye.
It's comical reading that Steichen and Reggie wanted him so much and Ballard passed on this #1 4.3s gold for a couple lousy 5's.
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Kwity? Yes or No on the Option. ** Update pg 2. Option Exercised**
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The hope would be that Fries does not remain the starter. He is a C grade player. A reliable C. We must have better.