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12 minutes ago, stitches said:
Dane Brugler's scouting report on Adonai Mitchell in his draft guide:
6. ADONAI MITCHELL | Texas 6022 | 205 lbs. | 3JR Missouri City, Texas (Cane Ridge) 10/8/2002 (age 21.55) #5
BACKGROUND: Adonai (ADD-an-I) “AD” Mitchell, the youngest of four boys, was born and raised in Missouri City (20 miles southwest of Houston). His mother (Darcy Padgett), a former model, and father (Norman Mitchell), a former stand-up comedian and actor, moved to Houston in 2000 and founded the Bee Busy Wellness Center, a nonprofit organization geared towards low-income individuals and families. In pee-wee and youth football, Mitchell was the kid with the ball in his hands and primarily played quarterback. His older brothers played basketball, but after trying it for two years, Mitchell decided that sport wasn’t for him. He spent his freshman year of high school at Westbury Christian School (a private school in Houston), and the coaches kept him at quarterb ack. To raise his recruiting profile, Mitchell transferred to Ridge Point High School (class 6A school in Fort Bend County) prior to his sophomore season and moved to wide receiver. As a junior in 2018, he earned second team All-District honors with 25 receptions for 378 yards and nine offensive touchdowns (five rushing, three receiving, one passing). He helped Ridge Point to a 10-2 record and the 2018 district championship. With Mitchell still struggling to garner recruiting attention, his father moved to the Nashville area for a year so his son could train with Buck Fitzgerald at the National Playmakers Academy. Mitchell transferred to Cane Ridge High School in Antioch, Tenn., for his senior season in 2019. After filling in at quarterback for the first three games, he moved back to wide receiver and led the team with 49 catches for 795 yards and 11 touchdowns. Mitchell helped Cane Ridge to a 9-4 record and state playoff appearance, and he was named the 2019 Region 5 -6A Athlete of the Year.
A four-star recruit, Mitchell was the No. 63 wide receiver in the 2021 recruiting class and the No. 10 recruit in Tennessee. He was originally in the 2020 recruiting class but decided to reclassify to the 2021 class and spent the ‘20 season training. After moving to Tennessee for his senior season, Mitchell attended several recruiting camps and received his first FBS offers (Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina and Tennessee). He picked up an offer from Ole Miss and Lane Kiffin in January 2020 and committed a few months later. However, Mitchell continued receiving offers (Auburn and Texas) and taking visits. In July 2020, he flipped his commitment to Georgia and former offensive coordinator Todd Monken. Mitchell enrolled early and was the No. 16 recruit in head coach Kirby Smart’s 2021 class (top receiver in the class). His daughter (Icylinn) was born in the summer of 2021, and Mitchell’s parents have been raising her while Mitchell has been i n school. After two national championships in two seasons in Athens, Mitchell entered the portal with the intention of moving closer to his daughter, and he transferred to Texas — a two-hour car ride away. After one season in Austin, Mitchell elected to skip his senior season and enter the 2024 NFL Draft.
STRENGTHS: Long, limber and loose athlete … long-striding acceleration to quickly reach his top speed … light-footed and fluid in his releases and at the top of routes to stem his way over the top of corners (see his stutter-and-go touchdown vs. Alabama in 2023) … able to gear down on command to drive corners off the route and give his quarterback a clean target … flashes extra juice when the ball is in the air … able to high point with outstanding body control for in-air adjustments … tracks the ball into his hands (one drop over the last two seasons) … grew up competing with three older brothers, and his toughness stands out on tape … al ways looking for someone to block … led the Big 12 in touchdowns in 2023 … competes with big-play swagger and has a history of clutch touchdowns in his team’s most important games (caught the go-ahead touchdown in Georgia’s 2021 national title victory).
WEAKNESSES: Owns a modest build with lean features and stringy muscle tone … below-average play strength, and physical defensive backs will give him trouble early and late in the route … catch radius casts a wide net, but he has smallish hands and doesn’t always play strong to the football (caught just four contested balls in 2023) … his route running loses rhythm at times, and he needs to be more consistently deliberate with each step … averaged just 3.2 YAC in 2023 and is not known for his creativity or ability to break tackles after the catch … wasn’t a high-volume target in college (three or fewer catches in 10 of his 14 games at Texas) … missed most of the 2022 season at Georgia because of a high left ankle sprain (September 2022).
SUMMARY: A one-year starter at Texas, Mitchell was an outside wide receiver in head coach Steve Sarkisian’s spread, RPO offense. After helpi ng Georgia win a pair of national championships, he transferred to Texas (to be closer to his daughter) and helped the Longhorns reach the College Football Playoffs. He also became just the fifth player in Texas history with 11 touchdown grabs in a single season. Despite some wasted movements in his routes that need to be tightened up, Mitchell cleanly accelerates/decelerates at will with the fluid movement skills to create separation out of his breaks (his 81.8 percent first down/touchdown rate in 2 023 was the best among the receivers in this draft class). Though not the strongest player through contact, he has the hand-eye coordination and pliable frame to adjust, high point and reach throws most receivers cannot. Overall, Mitchell needs to become a more detail-focused receiver to fully unlock his talent, but he has the body length, loose athleticism and catch-pointskills to be a chain-moving weapon. He projects as a rangy, outside-the-numbers target with the lean, limber body type reminiscent of the late Chris Henry.
GRADE: 1st-2nd Round (No. 33 overall)
He looks quick and breaks ankles near the goal line.
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24 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:
Pizza, beer and wings will make you gain weight.
It always makes me gain weight
So would oodles and boodles of strudel, brats, fried taters and warm 🍺.
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1 hour ago, MikeCurtis said:
Agreed
Freeland will come back 10-15 lbs stronger (I believe)
I view him as our next man up at Tackle
This kid will grow as well, possibly taking the RG spot in the future
Great pick up
Hopefully Freeland is hanging with Raimann pounding Ramen and an abundance of iron.
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10 hours ago, DougDew said:
I've been suggesting for weeks that the right side of the oline needed to be stabilized, even with a late first round pick if all of the pick 15 choices were gone. I was wanting OT Kiran Ahmedejie at 82 but CHI took him about 5 picks before us. Ballard moved up 3 spots to get Gonclaves. Hopefully, the best 5 olineman start in 2024, no matter at what positions along the right side.
Bebe was just a few spots ahead also. We sacrificed two higher upsides to get our new oline coach his guy. Oh well! As long as we end up with an upgrade to good ol Will we take the win.
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8 hours ago, twfish said:
I’m curious where he would sit at as a OG instead of OT
In run blocking he would be similar to Fries in that with a little angle he can do a good job getting push. Fries is over matched trying to drive block because he isn't a bender. This guy isn't a bender but carries maybe 15 more lbs.
Gonc has been very successful as a pass blocker. If he can get some push in short yardage of which we desperately could use improvement at RG, and he proves an upgrade in pass pro over Fries, then yippee. To get that improvement this year in the 3rd round would be a real plus.
According to him his big toe injury was serious. Said he was 85-90% at his pro day and had only started training 3 weeks before. The 19 reps seemed to be a personal best. Yikes!
He had 21 college starts in 39 games. He was crossed trained and played LT, RT, LG, RG. This was from our new oline coach.
A big plus, and he apparently is very quick off the snap.
He is big but not so light on his "toe", so I believe he would get humbled playing tackle. I doubt worse than Freeland was last season so...
I'm impressed with his demeanor, and he is consider tough.
I give this pick a B. Pray for the toe!!
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6 hours ago, Myles said:
I like the Matt Goncalves pick. He has played left and right tackle but is projected to be an NFL guard.
We already have a 6'6" RG that can't bend. At least 19 rep Gonc has tons of weight to try to shove with. Unfortunately, the battle with players of equal strength at the NFL level goes to he that goes low. Fries gets knocked back consistently by anyone they put in front of him much of the time, and especially when we need him the most, in short yardage.
If this guy was drafted to play tackle to me means Freeland isn't expected to put on the bulk to be our future starting RT. lol
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2 hours ago, stitches said:
This is reminiscent of his defense of CJ Stroud last year. Let's hope AD has similar success and similarly proves people wrong.
So the kid has flaws and has been called out publicly.
It's actually doing our Colts a big favor. Mitchell has to prov'em wrong.
Ballard gets to support him publicly but also look him in the eye.
It's comical reading that Steichen and Reggie wanted him so much and Ballard passed on this #1 4.3s gold for a couple lousy 5's.
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16 minutes ago, DougDew said:
I've been suggesting for weeks that the right side of the oline needed to be stabilized, even with a late first round pick if all of the pick 15 choices were gone. I was wanting OT Kiran Ahmedejie at 82 but CHI took him about 5 picks before us. Ballard moved up 3 spots to get Gonclaves. Hopefully, the best 5 olineman start in 2024, no matter at what positions along the right side.
Hopefully we can put him in for Fries in short yardage. He isn't athletic enough to play T and would be a limited G. We needed to move back up ~ _into the 2nd a good ways.
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5 minutes ago, stitches said:
Lowest drop rate in the draft. One of the best separators in the draft too... both him and Worthy were victims of inconsistent QB play at Texas.
If you watch his red-zone highlights... he's open soooooo much. Like... in compressed field you are not supposed to be this open this often.
No idea what his attitude problems are but his talent is much better than pick no. 52 would suggest. I wouldn't have been mad if we took him at 15.
Mitchell says it's a chemical imbalance that is difficult to control, diabetes.
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1 hour ago, Zoltan said:
If the Colts are thinking of trading up, I think the 2nd is the time to do it. I fully expect the Bills to take Mitchell, but there is still 1st round talent available. The two players I would trade up for are Iowa CB Cooper DeJean and Texas A&M LB Edgerrin Cooper, both players are first round talent. I think DeJean is falling because of his injury and some teams see him as a safety not a CB and Cooper is a LB where it's very rare for teams to take LBs in the first round yet he is one of the best overall players in draft in my opinion. If we can somehow trade up for one of these two players, it would instantly improve our defense and our coverage ability.
Getting up to pick 40 would give us several good options for future starter prospects. Or a bump back into the 2nd for our guy.
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13 hours ago, DynaMike said:
Only practice squad worthy? So if a WR isn't picked in the 1st round they are only good for the practice squad? Or maybe I am misreading your post?
Feeding a troll.
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27 minutes ago, superrep1967 said:
Both Latu and Turner both have the same draft grade of 84. So the Colts must have saw something they liked better than Turner although Turner is the better athlete.
Turner weighs about 15 lbs less. Think Ngauake. Do yourself a favor and checkout the weight of the best DE's. There is a power element when you are fighting with a 315-325 LB tackle.
Latu is an interesting specimen. He is not at all ripped with his upper body.
With his shirt off at the combine I considered him comparatively whimpy.
And watching game tape his attack I found that I couldn't quite tell why he was so successful. I have since watched him training and had media that I could slow down.
Perhaps because he isn't muscle bound he is very flexible. He does get low with a twist and knee bend and remains smooth. And he does it quickly.
This is Elite.
So i'm watching his attack with his arms and I will describe it like a fierce swim, windmill thing, both arms swinging forward, and it sure looks like the tackles can't time a defense to the motion. Yet he seems to, letting him knock their hands down with precision,, then he instantly drops his shoulder and bends and explodes around them.
He certainly isn't muscled up like the freak Joey Bosa, but against college players it sure looks very similar.
His upper body isn't thick but watching him run through the heavy bags he hits them really hard with a compact motion. He is physical and plays fast.
Let's hope he once and for all allows Ballard to take the dunce hat off regarding DE.
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2 hours ago, smittywerb said:
My bad, you’re right. I don’t know who stats I was looking at last night lol. Hennessy will do that. ;(
Well, Trey production might’ve been due to him being in a rotation over there in NO before he got to Cincy, with him being a third rounder. But either way, Trey turned it on year 4. So you’re right, I’ll give qwitty one more year. Not saying qwitty is bad, but we do need more from that position. And it seems Ballard and co agrees as this is his second attempt at trying to upgrade that position this off-season.
I agree with the pick, we can’t wait and hope for something when we have an opportunity to possibly upgrade at a premium position and one of the highest paying positions. Due to the way the draft played out, We had the opportunity to pick the FIRST defensive player off the board, which also mean probably the BEST defensive player on the board (depending on how whoever looks at it). We don’t know when we’ll have that opportunity if ever again.
Paye played a career high 700 snap. He was in a rotation with Ebukam, Dayo, and Lewis. You think he should have played 200 more snaps like Joey Bosa? Bosa had 2 more sacks than Kwity.
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7 hours ago, w87r said:
Doesn't sound like a team ready to move on from Paye.
I would give him his 5th year bonus and reevaluate again after the season, long term.
Year 4 is year one of NFL Prime. Kwity was very good last season.
Kwity was credited with 0 missed tackles. He also plays his flat like a beast.
He is a riser. We need a good blitzing LB.
Blitzing when you have corners that can only cover the zone in front of them from ten yards off for 2 seconds... Ballard is in the stone age.
Our division rivals are glad he is here.
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23 minutes ago, Smonroe said:
All that thought we could have traded down - it takes another team who wants to trade up.
With so many QBs and O players taken, I’m guessing a lot of teams knew they’d get someone high on their board without having to give something up.
More importantly. Even though we had a to of sacks, how did we rank with pressure?
Middle of the pack because we were near the bottom with blitzes. An easy one.
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8 minutes ago, w87r said:
You know Coach Partridge was integral in this selection.
Paye could be moved, potentially during the draft? Doubt they pick his option up now.
Or Dayo?
Let's send one of them to the Bengals.
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The mission is to build something that has us competing with the best of the best. This is a season for AR to get tuned up.
Who do you think will be the right guys on our roster now to take us to an AFC Championship game?
It's not Smith, Fries, and we likely can't get there with more than 2-3 of our current back seven.
I would offer Buckner to the Bears as part of a trade for 9. Eberflus wants to have a great D so maybe he bites.
Then hopefully trade back 2-3 spots for a good pick.
I'd love to come out of the draft with Latham and the Byron Murphy II. And come out of the draft with RG Bebe.
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6 hours ago, adubb84 said:
Absolutely! Have you heard the insane rumor that the Chargers might draft JJ and deal Herbert to the Vikings??
Garbage
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9 minutes ago, Stephen said:
Speed is game breaking and he looks better than Mitchell
Mitchell has a different game.
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2 hours ago, csmopar said:
It’s not happy hour yet…
The depth is good 😊. This is what the laugh emoji was good for.
Shoot 🔥, our starters are not even good 😊.
And this is why I blocked the guy.
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42 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:
I went back to last years comments about downs post draft. It was clear that Steichen preferred a variety of receiver types on the roster and they liked downs for bringing a different type/element.
not sure they would want another small receiver.Worthy would of course run some crossers, but he would do mostly what Pierce did. Pierce led the league in go patterns. Doing it we saw that his low 4.4 speed did not allow him to blow by people.
Worthy would have Tyreke + speed to put the fear in a D and require safety help. That would boad well for all other aspects of our offensive attack. We could do worse. Smith from Philly is sleight. 6' 170
Little Downs operates on quick hitters so often between the numbers. That is the hitting zone. He survived nicely.
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16 hours ago, stitches said:
They are arguing about Worthy I think... about his weight... one of the scouts said "that's why we have strength staff and resources"... Ballard doesn't believe he can get much bigger.... 10-12 pounds... that's pretty much in line with what you hope he will gain...
I think they would worry more about Wiggins than Worthy.
There will be at least a half dozen great prospects to pick from. So Ballard has advised us he is looking for a good trade back opportunity in the 19-21 range.
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1 hour ago, Superman said:
Between that and the tackling, I eliminated him from consideration by the Colts a long time ago. Was just thinking whether BBZ sees him as the kind of guy who can fill the role he wants.
DeJean will get eaten alive by twitchy WR's in short yardage and at the goal line. I would look elsewhere even at 46. He is a RB. He will have his success in the NFL as he is a FB player
The only CB that I am interested in is a 4.3's 190 lb. Don't care if he is a 4th rd development project. He has until playoffs 2025 to get his schiff together because then it's on.
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13 minutes ago, Stephen said:
If we go cb give me Wiggins, dejean, or Mitchell. Arnold is too slow.
Arnold would be a great "2" corner. I watched a lengthy interview with Arnold and he couldn't be more impressive.
Watching his tape he bends, twists, runs with tremendous agility. But he has to grab and live off being physical because he can't run with the big boys. A perfect Chris Ballard guy.
Sorry but we desperately need a guy that won't get out ran.
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Day 3 prediction
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There are good centers left. French and Pinter are not impressive.
I bet there are good slots still available. RB competition.
I give up on secondary. I'm ready for Diggs and Gilmore and let's kick tail
This season.