schwamm
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You may very well be right, and Feeley's comments may be disingenuous, at best. Unfortunately, as I said in the main Wells report thread, something about this whole mess has me feeling like we are seeing the tip of an enormous iceberg, and that the Pats have been finding all kinds of ways to edge past rules wherever they think they can. It's just a feeling, but it kinda creeps me out.whatever the case. Everyone is free to believe what they want....but unless I have at least an ounce of evidence or proof I'm going to just have to say this remark or claim just doesn't carry much weight. I can choose to believe Brady was involved in the patriot equipment guys altering footballs this past season but that doesn't mean I have to believe every story some upset former player tosses out there. This one I'm saying no...I don't believe. If I choose to accept such types of claims in this instance I would have to accept any similar type claim about other players without substantiated facts...be it manning or luck or Rodgers or anyone. I'm not ready to give credence to every players claim that the patriots upset without some shred of evidence. To each their own...but this on just sounds a little opportunistic to me.
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Don't mean to speak for you, but I was assuming the "small" referred to the DE, not the college...Don't remember putting in "small". I meant all colleges.
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I've been following all this noise from the sidelines, and have a couple reactions (just hunches/opinions):
1. I find myself wondering if all the speculative language is intentional by the league to give the Pats ammo to accept the punishment(s), but save face by posturing after. The league needs the Pats, and needs this to blow over as quickly as possible.
2. I struggle to buy into the idea that the SB win, or any further success, for that matter, does anything to salvage any reputations. This is just creating a gnawing sense (in me) that the Pats have been caught on 2 smallish things, but it's starting to feel like a tip of an iceberg... Like this organization has been employing all kinds of shady tactics, and we only know about the cameras and needles.
No evidence. No sources. Just growing, uncomfortable impressions.
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I guess I wish we'd all slow way down on the Werner = bust stuff. I know he has yet to live up to first round status, but the dude has only played football for 7 years total, and had to learn a new position with the Colts.
If you want to argue that Grigs never should have spent a first on a project, I am not entirely sure I agree, but I can get that. But it is simply much too early to label a guy with 2 years experience at a position and 7 years in the sport as a bust.
Polian didn't even like to put LBs into starting roles until their 3rd year (which might explain why he only ever draft one in the early rounds, and if I recall correctly, publicly said he regretted doing so, despite Rob Morris having a decent career).
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You're barking up all kinds of the wrong trees, you pose, you deflect, and you whine too much. Ignore.What are you talking about? This is a post about pro's/con's of drafting based upon BPA. Everyone keeps saying "strict adherence to BPA was why we got Dorsett" and the question was what if WR had been the BPA at each of our picks, or QB, or punter, kicker, etc. Would we keep taking them if they were the BPA? I only added those additional scenarios because some folks just don't get it or just choose to be argumentative (like schwamm above).
Most of you naysayers are the ones who keep throwing up straw men or changing the topic, scenario, etc. until it suits your position (QB's are BPA only in round #1, Ray Guy, etc), pffttt...whatever.
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And I hate patiently tolerating all the "gotta win the SB every year or I pout like a 2 year old" fans, but I've heard it for decades, and you don't see my griping about it all over the place.I hate waiting.....heard the same thing in 12, 13 & 14.
If this is truly that frustrating to you, I might suggest that you could get immediate returns by heading to Boston wearing a Pats jersey (I'm sure they welcome bandwagoners with open arms... and soft footballs
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Can you sourse that?Pretty sure Colts won't sign Collins. Supposedly he wasn't even on their board.
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You're right. My bad. I thoughts drafts had more than one round, and I keep forgetting that all other GMs have been perfect in these one round drafts.Year 1 - Andrew Luck (Grigs really had no input, decision already made)
Year 2 - Bjorn Werner
Year 3 - Trent Richardson
Year 4 - Phillip Dorsett
Ummm....yeah....not really sure this BPA thing is really working for us. Maybe we should try the need route instead.
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Me not so much. I am quite certain he has done a far better job than anyone on here could do, and far better than many on here suggest. I was surprised by the Dorsett pick (as I was when Wayne was drafted), but I'm excited to see what he can do.That would then lead us to the million dollar question..does Grigs actually feel it was worth our first round pick to get another WR when we have so many other well know, documented, discussed, etc, etc, etc....needs? Obviously he does which kind of concerns me.
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I so want to agree with you, but then I remember the number of times I've thought, or heard, the same sentiment since 2002... And I quickly discard the notion and move on...Jacksonville is the team to watch for out of the bunch in my opinion. I think they have something with Bortles and they are starting to put some talent around him. Defensively they were already pretty good. I think Colts still are team to beat in the division but Jax could rise up as our primary challenger down the road.
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I would suggest the fluid part is how the board is set up, not how it's followed. I say the same every year, but how a GM determines "best" is incredibly subjective, and I can guarantee need plays a part in how they structure their boards, even if only subconsciously.I don't think he did. Probably a great kid and an investment in our future but was he a need? Will he have as big an immediate impact as say a 1st round safety or lineman (D or L)? We have what 7-8 WR's now? Seems like wasted talent to me.
If the BPA was quarterback, punter or kicker would we have taken them? Probably not. So Grig's following his board is kind of a fluid process.
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So in an absolute and ideal world, the answer is always and in all ways: Yes, it is wiser to draft BPA. Doing so creates options that drafting for depth never will.is it wiser for a gm to draft bpa when that position is filled and the pick sits on the bench until a space is available or draft bpa for a position of need who can start and upgrade and play now? did grigs make a good first?
But GMs aren't really drafting BPA. They are drafting ABPA, or the player available that they anticipate will be the best. And history of the NFL tells us they are ALL wrong more than right. (And McShiper is wrong more often than the worst GM. And 99.99% of the most knowledgable fans are wrong more often than McShiper's worst efforts.)
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I think both the Jags an Titans will be MUCH improved, but not soon enough to significantly affect this next season.
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Not signing a UDFA is simply NOT evidence that a team didn't try to sign that player.I can understand the concern with Harris because he has a really small frame for a safety. But Prewitt should have been the first person they were on the phone with. He could've been an eventual replacement at FS for Adams.
But let's not forget that alot of these guys might still become available. If they make a PS they can be claimed by the Colts. Or if they get waived we can get them. That's how we ended up with Quarles and Rodgers(although he blew his chance).
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How about... In line to get your ticket scanned at LOS, at the beverage station in the stadium, at the food concessions, at the Colts merchandise store...where do i mindlessly stand in line to fork out my hard earned cash to the nfl fat cats?
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In fairness, BQ may have a tougher time getting anyone to give him another chance because of that.Right. Everyone knows who Brady Quinn is.
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By your measure, then, Reggie Wayne is a bust. Robert Mathis is a bust. Peyton Manning was a bust. Any player who gets injured and misses a chunk of a season is a bust, because they didn't make a positive impact on their team or play at a high level while injured.Well the title says grigs suds and duds I assumed it was all the players he's acquired that have either been studs or duds.. When you make a guy the highest paid player at his position you expect him to play like the best player at his position.. I don't think those are unrealistic expectations..
Imo bust is anyone who fails to make a positive impact on the team whether it be because he can't play at a high level or is injured a lot
Seems like a VERY easy threshold to cross, and allows for a mountain of guys to be included as busts. I prefer a more selective definition at both ends of the spectrum myself, but it's only an opinion.
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When a team signs undrafted rookie FA from Who Dat U, Frank Lee Givahoot... and he manages to bounce back and forth between the deep bench and the practice squad for a couple years... and maybe even finds his way onto the field a few times in games... "Bust" is simply not a label that applies when his unspectacular career comes to an end.
In fact, outside of maybe the top 3 rounds of the draft, I find my expectations get pretty low pretty fast. That allows me to really enjoy the surprises, but it makes it really hard to see those players as busts when they aren't world beaters.
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Good grief. Are we really going to list every low risk/high reward FA pickup and every stopgap player added to the roster for cheap in 2012 when the team had no cap space as "busts"?Studs
Davis
Mewhort
Luck
Hilton
Allen
Jones
Adams
Freeman
Reddings
Butler
Undecided
Walden
Fleener
Bradshaw
Chapman
Toler
Jackson
Newsome
Avery
Ballard
Moncreif
Duds
Satele(seems everyone forgot about him)
Richardson
Cherlius
The Jerry Hughes trade!
Landry
Zbikowski
Thomas
Jean-Francois
DHB
Nicks
Holmes(C of the future)
Werner
Thorton
Jordy
Purifoy
Rainey
Vaughn
Bethea(letting him go in favor of Landry!!)
As you can see I think he misses more than he hits,,
I guess I'd really just like to see more thought go into using absolute terms like "bust".
When a player doesn't cost much, and expectations weren't high to begin with, I don't see how that qualifies. Likewise, I struggle to think a guy like Cherilus, who played well in '13, and reportedly played thru nagging injuries in '14, is a bust just because his play wasn't quite what I would have hoped. For all we know, he manned up to play thru injuries because depth wasn't, there, and coaches really appreciate his sacrifice. Don't know, just sayin.
Either way, IMHO, bust should mean something significantly more than just "guy who didn't meet my unrealistic expectations".
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Could you imagine we get them both for "the right price", only they both turn out to be shells of their former selves... Man I would flip.Could you imagine if the Colts got AP and Andre Johnson or Brandon Marshall. Man I would flip.
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So... if the Colts play the exact same teams as the other 3 teams in the AFC South, except where they play the 2 AFC division champs vs. Houston playing the 2 2nd place teams, and Tennessee and Jax playing the 3rd and 4th place teams...
Wouldn't that, by definition, make our schedule harder than theirs?
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If true, that is simply disturbing.
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So you are suggesting that the Pats did nothing to affect this equation? That BB is just a decoration on the sideline? That it's as simple as "if they had prepared, they'd have won"... Really?You're right, they must have prepared. They stopped the Patriots from getting 200 yards and four rushing touchdowns again. They only gave up 160 to Blount and 3 rushing tds.
PROGRESS!
Again, WOW!
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Colts OTA Notes 5-27-15
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That's s pretty awesome problem to have, especially given the mess this team was in just 3 summers ago.