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8 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:
Journalists are becoming more like weathermen everyday. The just throw stories out there as fast as they can, and if they're right 50% of the time, that's considered pretty good. This situation was so unique though because NO ONE predicted the outcome, and that rarely happens.
Now dont give our weatherman a bad name
unless they have started selling crystal balls that I didn't know about no one should be predicting anything.
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20 minutes ago, krunk said:
I don't think the rift was as big as they say it was. I think Irsay sat both of them down and probably gave them some incite about Head Coach/GM relationships. We have to understand that neither one of them(Grigs and Pagano) is all that experienced with what they are doing. They both came in as newbies for the role. He probably told them about situations where some of the great head coach and GMs maybe at one time butted heads and told them how to deal with the situation for long term success. Probably gave them scenarios where Dungy and Polian maybe disagreed or other situations in NFL history.
Agreed- Link to support this.The last paragraph should prove the media has bias.
"Whenever these guys are in coaching -- players and everything -- everyone has to win," Irsay said. "That's a given. I don't look at it as he's coaching for his job or anything like that. I really don't see the dynamic being anything different than any other year in the past to be honest with you. I don't see it that way at all."
So even though we get a quote directly from the OWNER of the team, that Pagano is not coaching for his job, the media creates their own reality based on anonymous and probably complete garbage sources
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Typical media. They are nothing more than a bunch of bookie's hedging their bets on
information that is second, third and forth hand. To think that anyone knows what truly
is going to happen when things change all the way up to the very last second of D day
is ridiculous. Yes, I can be a cynic at times but unless you hear something from the horses
mouth, never put any stock into anything you hear. Plus you have to take in account how
savvy Irsay is when it comes to social media. You have to know he is just sitting back in the
big chair laughing his butt off because so many people have no clue what he is going to do.
Notice he didnt make a point to berate any local media for putting false information out there, If it were truly a sensitive subject that a potential big deal teetered on the validity a perception, he would have made a point to call someone out. He didnt which tells me , know one will ever know what Irsay is going to do. To think otherwise is crazy.
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23 minutes ago, Narcosys said:
Holy smokes, the backlash that these guys are getting is crazy.
If you are referring to local media then Good. Serves them right for creating this circus. Dont they know by now that Irsay may be intentionally planting false information just to make them all look like fools.
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12 minutes ago, jskinnz said:
I don't buy that for one second. Every media outlet - national or local - was proclaiming there were issues between Grigson & Pagano. Literally everyone had Pagano out of work. I don't believe for a second that everyone had it wrong. I just think the story changed throughout the day yesterday.
Did any media divulge any real sources to their info? You could be right but I tend to think it snowballed with one so called "Source" and all the other news outlets ran with it. I highly doublt Irsay is going to tell Krapitz or Doyel what his plans are. They hang out at the facility all day for 1 second of juicy information. To me they should have their media badges revoked for portraying something that started a media frenzy all over the NFL.
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lol Doyel is garbage however I do agree from the visual presentation and what was said
and not said at the presser, I could definitely see a change in power. Irsay made sure
he let the media know that it was Chuck's idea to extend Grigson. Chuck got what he wanted and he played his cards exactly the way they needed to be played. He is a smart man. I honestly need to give him more credit.
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7 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:
I guarantee you he would have traded for Payton. The Saints requests for a 2nd had been out all day long and Irsay was reportedly talking ot them through the afternoon. A 2nd isn't that high a commodity, especially for a proven NFL head coach. Probably where things started going south is when NYG started entering into the conversation. It probably increased the price and the Colts were on the wrong end of a bidding war. So I disagree with you that the colts would not trade for Payton. I do agree with you that the price ultimately was higher than the Colts were willing to pay given Pagano and Grigson, despite their faults, were not the worst option out there.
Sorry I just dont see it. Payton is a combined 14-18 the last two years. He caught lightening in a bottle with Breeze and all the momentum from Hurricane Katrina. I tend to believe water is finding it's level with Payton. I could be wrong but there would have been a huge uprising against Irsay to mortgage our future for him.
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1 minute ago, Blindside said:
LOL this is rich. After all the nonsense the media has put on so called NFL sources do we really want to put any faith that there was serious negotiations involved. Sure Irsay may have put out a feeler but in the end he had to know that he wasnt going to mortgage any futuredraft picks for an unknown. Typical media trying to create a story where they have no idea if there is one or not. Whenever I see NFL sources as the source I just laugh because the blogger will more than likely look like a fool.
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LOL this is rich. After all the nonsense the media has put on so called NFL sources do we really
want to put any faith that there was serious negotiations involved. Sure Irsay may have
put out a feeler but in the end he had to know that he wasnt going to mortgage any future
draft picks for an unknown. Typical media trying to create a story where they have no
idea if there is one or not. Whenever I see NFL sources as the source I just laugh
because the blogger will more than likely look like a fool.
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34 minutes ago, deedub75 said:
The reason that I'm surprised is because Pagano was not offered a long term contract before the beginning of the season. They obviously did not have much confidence in him to offer him one. I really believe that Pagano and Grigson have a toxic relationship. There is just too much smoke out there about their relationship for there not to be some fire and truth to it. They may have hashed everything out last night and decided to work better together which led to the extensions. What happens when Pagano and Grigson have that first disagreement on a free agent or a draft pick?
imo Irsay was always in Chucks corner. There is no rule you have to extend someone before their contract is up. Irsay did the right thing. He had to get both Grigson and Pagano in the same room together and hash out all their differences. To be honest, during the presser I saw the balance of power shift to Pagano. Both Irsay and Pagano made the comment that Pagano wanted Grigson extended. I took that as, Pagano has more power or has atleast earned the power to make those decisions which in the end can only be a good thing in the long run.
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I dont understand why people are surprised. At best with a healthy QB we were a 10-6 team
this year. Throwing a new HC, OC, philosophy, team chemistry in a blender and expect
to surpass that next year is a little bit of a reach. In other words continuity was more important
to Irsay. There were no guarantee's with any coach they bring in. My question is from
the presser, what Big splash was Irsay referring to that would have steered this in a different
direction? The only big splash imo would have been a coach with SB pedigree.
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15 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:18 minutes ago, BrentMc11 said:
Honestly, who would you rather have coaching your favorite team.....Chuck Pagano? Or Nick Saban?
Chuck by a mile. unfortunately Irsay has a hrdon for Star Wars football and is probably
trying to strike some deal to get Sean Payton. For me I hope the price is too high. We have so many needs that I would not give up a second.
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Just now, Blindside said:
Well just reported no announcement tonight. Let the speculation begin. or continue
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Well just reported to announcement tonight. Let the speculation begin. or continue
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5 minutes ago, CR91 said:
Or an offer was made and Irsay put the deadline at 4pm. He didnt
get the answer he wanted, now he is scrambling to secure another candidate.
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Could Irsay be trying to swing a trade with one of the other six teams that need a HC?
Seems to me this is taking way longer than it should.
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1 minute ago, gspdx said:
Gruden won one SB with someone else's team. Then began the ugly decline. I don't know why people are so excited about Gruden.
I believe most on here attribute Tampa Bay's down fall to poor management and what draft picks
they nailed where far and few between.
Ill take a super bowl next year if that's Gruden's past success rate.
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8 minutes ago, Happy2BeHere said:
Not sure why people would want Coughlin...I like the guy...but I don't think he is the answer for the Colts.
I agree. Coughlin is past his prime. My list from top down
Gruden
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No disagreeing but for the sake of argument.
40-23 4 out of 5 playoff appearance's with one being a AFC Championship game.
Lets say at best with a healthy team this year we were 10-6. Are you saying
that the chances are better with a new coach to improve taking into account
new philosophy, possibly new OC and team chemistry?
Chuck has had bad moments, We all agree on that but you cannot put all this
on the coach especially now that we are finding out that the colts were being
coached from the owners box.
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Player assessment and evaluation doomed Pagano. This all points back to Grigson.
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This game is way over hyped.
Not really concerned about the outcome however I am curious how our defense handles a QB with
wheels. For years our secondary would get blocked down field allowing huge chunks against the option
and screen passes. I could be wrong but this is how I see an RG3 run offense. Washington does not have
the biggest WR core. I would like to see us play man and attack the WR's. This should disrupt a game plan
that involves getting the RB or TE in the flat on screen passes. RG3 may use this dink and dunk
strategy and try to catch you off guard with a triple option or with a quick out to Garcon or Moss.
Not really concerned about the offense. With Collie possibly out I want to see Kris Adams emerge the last two
preseason games. He has size that we need at WR and if he continues to catch the balls throw to him you may
see him on the PS or best case AR. I also want to see more Vic Ballard with the first unit.I think Brown has pretty
much solidified his starting so I wouldn't expect to see him much past midway 2nd quarter.
Sambrano is a curious choice as a KR to me. Do they really feel he can make the team? Griff
played really well against the Steelers. If he continues that streak, he should make the team. He seems
best fit as a slot receiver. This would should lead to Brazill or Hilton returning kicks. I just don't think there
are enough positions available for a specialist on this team. With WR's like Ross and Adams looking to
possibly make the PS I just find Sambrano a curious return man at this point.
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On the sidelines when Luck was being interviewed he was asked about his expectation for the upcoming season.
The first thought that came to his head was Superbowl. Then he mentioned playoffs as a his goal. I liked how
he didn't toe the company line with we are just trying to improve every week and treat each game one at a time.
He also mentioned that some veterans have a couple years left and they are in win now mode.
I have to say , I loved those quotes almost as much as the game. I am not going to guess wins but all I am going
to say is I love his confidence and I will not be surprised if we are much better than what has been said.
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Typical Kravits using a lead in picture that shows Peyton waving as if to say "bye". That could just
be me putting my own spin on it but I does seem like Kravits was on the "Peyton needs to be traded for
the betterment of the franchise" train.
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To me this interview told me he still wants to be here. The 28 million owed to him in March might be worth every dime
if nothing else but rally the troops. Seems like there is a big disconnect and the only person on the Colts who can
fix that is Peyton.
unless they have started selling crystal balls that I didn't know about no one should be predicting anything.
The fact Pags stayed and is watching his staff burn is proof he's a fake
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OP- Your kidding right. Like others have said our defense was ranked 26 and our tight ends were nearly invisible all year. The positional coaches have to be evaluator's of talent as well. If they are not giving good feedback to the HC on a players ability then that is a problem. Our backup talent is pretty terrible on this team. Our positional coaches need not be afraid to voice their concerns with the HC. The hope now is with the handcoffs being taken off Pagano, he now can lean on his staff and make better decisions on who plays. If they dont pan out, then with this new balance or power we are seeing there should be no problem for those idea's to brought to the table. Pagano should have more of a say who plays.