Moosejawcolt
-
Posts
8,670 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
1
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Gallery
Events
Blogs
Posts posted by Moosejawcolt
-
-
1 hour ago, Solid84 said:
I hope he can get Paye to the next level.
I think he is what he is. He's not a bendy guy. One of the podcasts compared him to Sheard
Not a really bad thing but just a good edge setter. Like I said, I wouldn't have done it but it's not huge money. If u go based on what he was brought in for and his draft postion. He was not worth a 5th option. This is also a way of Ballard saving face by giving him the 5th year. Giving him the option is saying that Ballard made a good pick. Not giving him the option says it was a bad pick. Not a bust by any means but just a meh kind of player.
3 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:You might be thinking about Sparano Jr ..the Oline coach....he's tremendous and had the oline playing at elite level.
I thought the Dline coach was also new last year with Steichen
-
4 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Charlie Partridge says hello!
There's a reason the Colts brought him in. To make all the D-lineman better. I look forward to seeing what he can do.
Didn't they bring in a new guy last year to do the same thing?
-
1
-
-
18 hours ago, dw49 said:
It appears that you are not aware that the Colts did elect to pick up the 5th year option on Paye ?
I wouldn't have but it's not a really big deal when u have a rookie qb. I would have kept the money
-
On 4/28/2024 at 7:01 AM, Smonroe said:
Venturi said it best - Defenses are going to put 9 close to the line to stop JT, the QB run, and short passes over the middle. That takes away Pitt, Downs and the TEs.
We need a WR who is quick and fast enough to beat man coverage on the outside.
I think Shane has those guys now.
They will want to at first play 9 close to the box but we start throwing bombs and the safeties have to play deep. Pick your poison if Mitchell and Pierce work out this year. I really like Mallory as well
-
2
-
-
On 5/1/2024 at 9:31 AM, smittywerb said:
Id say even better, line up JT on the line. Run the no huddle. Anytime we want to run, just motion JT next to AR and either hand it off or keep it and run, or run an RPO, or just run a pass play. Keeps the defense on the field and guessing. I can’t wait to see the stuff Shane does with this offense.
I say we throw out Pierce, Mitchell, Gould, Mallory and JT as a line up. We aint going to block anyone but man are we ever going to stretch the field!!
-
1
-
-
On 4/27/2024 at 12:40 PM, OLD FAN MAN said:
dulin will have to earn his spot
I think they love him as a special teams player and that is where he is valued. I could be wrong thought.
-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, jvan1973 said:
I don't mean to single you out. It happens at a ridiculous rate. How do so many colts fans not know it's Peyton, not Payton. Huge pet peeve
I get it. I am horrible for getting names wrong lol.
-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, dw49 said:
Well... if the Colts felt the same as you , they not only should they have declined the 5th year but maybe should have traded him for a 4th or 5th rounder ? Why makes you feel that they "covet Dayo more than Paye ? " Seems if true , they would've declined the 5th year option and extended Dayo.
The Colts may or may not pick up the 5th year. I think they covet Dayo because he can rush from he end and DT position. Plus, I think Dayo is steadily showing improvement where I think Paye has plateaued. The fact that they are waiting this long tells you are they are really thinking long and hard about it. If he was playing the LDE and was getting double digit sacks, it would have been picked up by now. If they do pick up his option, it is still not a ringing endorsement. They would probably think that 13 million is not that much and maybe looking at next years crop of free agents and it maybe lackluster. I just wouldn't do it but I am not the GM
-
10 minutes ago, Jason_ said:
So the Mannings will get involved at some point? I'm honestly just trying to make sense out of what you're trying to say.
The only influence the Mannings have is their name and achievements in college and the NFL. There is pressure for the coaches to make the right decisions regarding Archie. The coaches know that there is a lot of pressure to handle this in the right manner. When he is ready, he will start and I really doubt the Mannings have the coaches on speed dial and are probably trying to stay at arm's length as they don't want to be the intrusive parents. Archie is talented enough to make his own way and I actually think they prefer him to just sit there and learn. Cause when he starts it is going to be crazy pressure and everyone from the coaches to his family knows he needs to be ready to take what will come at him.
-
2
-
-
26 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
You are the one claiming you can get basically the same player for less money. Who are they?
Well when free agency 2025 rolls around then we can have that discussion. Lets say for example a guy like Hunter, who the Colts wanted this , was a free agent next year. Would you rather have Kwitty at 13 million in his 5th year or had the 13 mill plus another few million to sign say a rush end like Hunter in 2025? To me its not about picking up the fifth becaue you have the money. Its can we use that money in the future to use towards a more impactful player
-
4 minutes ago, Jason_ said:
I asked 2 questions. Was your response nope that the Mannings don't get to decide when Arch becomes the starter? Or, nope the coaches at Texas don't have say in it?
I think i said what i meant. I dont think the Mannings will not become involved in anything relating to Archie starting. It will be up to the coaches and who performs best at the qb position. I expect him to start next year at the latest. They know eventually he will get his turn based on his talent and they are willing to just let it all work out. Payton and Eli have been through it all so they will just be supportive and be sure not to be seen as meddling in the process. Talent will win out and he will get his shot. I think that is why so many qbs flame out. They dont have the support system and parents are not willing to be patient. Its a long and hard road and the Mannings know how to navigate it. Plus, this kid is going to have the weight on his shoulders and expectations will be through the roof when he is under center. Sitting for 2 years, fi that is what happens, could be the best thing for him.
-
1
-
-
37 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Who are other edge setting DEs that make less than 13 and get 8 sacks
Here is a project for you Go to NFL sack leaders and look at the DE salaries starting at Kwitty and work yourself down. Then tell me what the average salary is for those guys. Not DT's or LBs but DE's who's primary role is to rush the passer and set the edge
-
32 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Who are other edge setting DEs that make less than 13 and get 8 sacks
u tell me?
-
28 minutes ago, Jason_ said:
Wait, so the Mannings get to decide when Arch becomes the starter? Don't the coaches at Texas have some say in that too?
Nope. They are playing the long game and being patient. He will eventually start based on his ability and Mannings will not get involved. They will let it take its natural course and he is most likely to talented to sit for more than 2 years.
-
1
-
-
Just now, smittywerb said:
I think he’s worth around $10-$13 million per. That’s the beauty of having talent on rookie deals at premium positions. You can afford to pay for other players in the meantime.yeah but you can also hold onto that 13 mill and get a player in free agency next year that will have more of an impact than simply paying Paye
-
2 hours ago, wig said:
If they couldn't trade up and Latu and Bowers were gone, I think it was a coin flip between him and Mitchell. I'm assuming they liked him but that he was their 4th or 5th option
I think based on how they run this defense and player importance. I truly believe that Murphy and Mitchell could have the same grade, but he is man corner and Murphy is a 3 tech. The 3tech is like the qb of this defense. Everything runs through him. Murphy would have been the pick and I could have lived with that. I really wonder what the Colts offered to move up ? We will probably find out some day. I bet if it was as low as # 4, I bet it was this years #15 and 2 other 1st rounders.
-
8 minutes ago, DougDew said:
And that is part of my point about how GMs benefit from circumstances and are hindered at other times. Its hard for me to draw a bright line between most of them in terms of being really good or really bad, because the card deck is different each year and can get reshuffled mid draft by some wonky things. No doubt the Colts draft benefited by some talent falling a bit more in both the first and second rounds because of some unexpected things. Those things feel in our favor this year, but may not in other years. I'd hate to be the GM of LVR right now. Although they got Bowers (and I like O'Donnell more than most) he's probably got set back by not having Penix there to draft as projected.
Yeah, I don't think a lot of teams wanted to budge who were in the top 10. I know Lombardi said they were 12 first rounders and Ballard said 19-21. Maybe Lombardi was more right and teams just didn't want to get out of the top 12-15 spots?
-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, Moosejawcolt said:
I bet when Ballard and the Colts looked at their board, they had Murphy and Latua coming off the board. The Bears, ATL, Raiders and the Saints were the teams that I thought may go D with their first pick. The best rush end and DT do not usually last till 15 and 16. It was just an odd year with 6 qbs taken. Then you factor in the 2 Oline and 3 wrs and possibly generational te. It really was the 6 qbs drafted that made this possible.
When you do sit back and analyze the draft most of the picks in front of the Colts make sense.
1) Williams. Not a fan of the player but I get it.
2) Daniels- Need a qb and #2 rated qb
3) Maye-I think the Giants and another team wanted him bad but Patriots just decided to get him and not move back.
4)They needed to pair Harrison with the midget and justify that stupid contract they gave Murray. Give Murray the most polished and tallest receiver in the draft lol.
5)Harbaugh loves the trenches and wouldn't pass on Ault. Look at Harbaugh's history in building a team.
6) I think the Giants really wanted Maye and were trying to move up but Patriots were not budging. They picked best player available in Nabors and hoping it will help Jones and it wont.
7) Need to protect Levis as the GM picked him last year and need to see if he is the guy
8)Now this is where it went off the rails and stupidest pick in NFL history I think. I had the best D player going here
9) They wanted to pair the 3rd best wr on their board with Williams and I called it when people said the Colts would trade with the Bears and grab a receiver at #9. I get it but would have picked Murphy as it is a perfect fit for Eberflus' defense.
10) Minny loves McCarthy and moved up one spot to make sure they got him.
11) Picked best OT on the board as they need to protect Rodgers upright as the coach and GM will be gone if they dont make the play offs
12) If he was still there, Nix is a perfect qb for what Sean wants
13)Bowers is elite but luxury pick. I would have went best D player on the board. They drafted a tight end high last year. I thought a dumb pick
14) Saints could have picked best player and they went Oline so cannot fault him
15) Ballard should have bought a lottery ticket the day of the draft because Latu fell into his lap. No need to think it over just turn the card!
-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, DougDew said:
ATL did not get Turner. They eventually trade up in the second for an obscure 3T DT.
I read that The GM and HC wanted Latu, but the owner stepped in for Penix because he wanted a succession plan. Read into that what you want. Also, I guess since ATL seemed to want to trade up to 10 for Latu, its seems somebody wanted him pretty highly.
That's why there are also thoughts...don't get excited...that Ballard got a bit lucky with latu being there at 15. Basically, the GMs had the 1st round pegged pretty well, then in swoops Blanc and reshuffles the playing deck for everyone. LVR was mad too, because they wanted Penix at 13. So if things would have gone to script....who knows who Ballard would have picked since Latu probably would not have been there.
Ballard really benefited from Alanta's ability to having no idea on how to build a team. I also thought picking Bowers was not a good decision. They should have went defense and paired Murphy or Latua with Crosby.
-
1
-
-
2 hours ago, wig said:
If they couldn't trade up and Latu and Bowers were gone, I think it was a coin flip between him and Mitchell. I'm assuming they liked him but that he was their 4th or 5th option
yeah, the more I follow Ballard's drafts, he is just not going to pick that man corner. I wanted Mitchell at 15, but they have a definite player they want to play the corner position.
18 minutes ago, chad72 said:They are not anticipating Cousins to play more than 2 years and he gets $100 mil. guaranteed still. They were never planning with Cousins as their long term. That is the best case scenario for them to find out.
So there was NEVER an intention of handing Cousins another contract. The longer Cousins plays well without major injuries, on the surface they may say it is great for the franchise, which is true but how does it result in playing time for Penix Jr. without a trade or major injury and he is probably in the Geno Smith boat being a starter that late in his career while starting as an older QB?
Love the player Penix Jr., just don't love where he was picked, thought he was underrated but wish he had gone to a different team that could get him playing time sooner than later. After the first 2 QBs, everyone else, I felt was overdrafted.
The worst pick in NFL history and it aint close lol
-
2 hours ago, wig said:
If they couldn't trade up and Latu and Bowers were gone, I think it was a coin flip between him and Mitchell. I'm assuming they liked him but that he was their 4th or 5th option
I am not sure Bowers was the target. They apparently said there was a sizeable offer made to move up. I don't think you would have to make a sizeable offer to move up to say #10 to make sure you get Bowers. I think it was Harrison or Nabors. I know people think it is Harrison but I lean more towards Nabers because I think they wanted a burner. The AD pick kind of lead me to believe what kind of wr they favored in this draft. Plus, I think they knew they had to move up to #4 as I had Zona taking Harrison because of his height and size and how they fit Murray's game. They probably targeted the Chargers but like I said, Harbaugh was going Oline and Ault was their guy. I had Bears going wr as I said on this forum to pair him with Williams. If the Colts were favoring the 3rd receiver, cant spell his name, I think that would have been a bad move to give up a lot to get him. I just don't think the teams in the top 5 wanted to move down to 15. That is quite a drop. I think the guys that were considered elite were Harrison, Ault and Nabors at their positions and that is not including qbs. Those teams picking high in the draft were probably not really interested in who they thought might be there at 15.
-
On 4/30/2024 at 7:25 PM, csmopar said:
For some reason, I really trust Reggie on this. Several WRs playing with us during and after the manning Era credited themselves adapting to being pros by watching Reggie.
He is by far the most gifted receiver who has walked thru the Colts door in recent memory. We shall see what the future holds for AD.
-
2
-
-
15 hours ago, dw49 said:
Add to that the fact that Indy coaches were giving Paye high accolades for the past couple of weeks. It would look pretty silly and even disingenuous if they declined the 5th year option after saying he was a very good player.
You can talk highly of a player and not give him the 5th year. They may like him in his current role, but I feel he is replaceable. If Paye went down with an injury for the whole year do you think his loss would impact the team? I really don't because of what he brings as an edge rusher, You can keep that 13 million and decide to resign him next year or go after someone else in free agency. To me, it is not a huge gamble in just letting it play out. I don't expect him to all of a sudden be that guy. I also feel that they covet Dayo more than Paye.
-
5 hours ago, smittywerb said:
Not only do I think we should’ve picked up the option, but I think we should retain him if he’s not too expensive.
He may not be the complete DE we want him to be, but he’s serviceable. And it’s hard to find serviceable DEs. Him and Latu would be a solid rotation and also gives us depth in case of injury.
you will probably have your answer if you did a search on the average salary for an edge setting RDE in the NFL.
Kwity? Yes or No on the Option. ** Update pg 2. Option Exercised**
in Colts Football
Posted
Ummmmm.......I gave him kudos on this draft. Loved it. I am just not of a fan of the 5th on Kwity. That being g said, 13 million isn't a lot with a rookie qb. I just would have saved the money and let it play out. Ballard always preaches competition. To me Kwitty didn't earn the option. That's just me. I don't expect him to earn that money and we shall only know that by the end of the season.