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Yeah it does seem most of the premier AFC Pass Rushers are playing OLB now (Lamar Woodley, James Harrison, Terrell Suggs, Cameron Wake, Super Mario, Von Miller, Tamba Hali etc.)
Makes you think they should have more spots available for linebackers now that so many teams are using the 3-4 technique.
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Phillip Rivers had a league leading 19 INTs he really got in?
Brandon Browner for the Seahawks and Chris Houston of the Lions deserved to get in over Charles Tillman and Victor Cruz should have got in over Jennings IMO.
Browner really deserved the Pro Bowl nod this year, he has 6 INTs, 20 Pass Deflections, 49 solo tackles and 2 TDs, one that was a 94 yard return.
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Popularity contest like usual. Urlacher and Ray Lewis get in, London Fletcher and Navarro Bowman get snubbed. Texans' Left Tackle Duane Brown hasn't given up a sack all season, and Houston is 2nd only to the Broncos in rushing yards.
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I am very high on Joe Adams. I had in him in my Colts mock draft. His value in the return game alone could make him worth a late round pick. His return against Tennessee this year is maybe the most amazing thing I've ever seen. I am also very high on LB Keenan Robinson from Texas. Great natural weak side backer with good size and sideline to sideline tackling ability. Has the athleticism to drop into coverage or take on tackles to fill running gaps. Longhorn's had a bad season, but that was more of their inconsistency on offense than anything else. Not gonna be in this year's draft but I think NC State's David Amerson is emerging as one of the top cover corners in the NCAA. His 68-yard INT TD was the turning point for them in Belke Bowl, and his 12th INT of the season, which is a new Atlantic Coast Conference record, previously held by Dre Bly. Great at reading and reacting, and he played WR in High School so his ball skills are phenominal.
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So far he's at 10 grabs for 241 yards and a TD.
Too much of the draft is emphasized on combine performances these days. They are saying White being a third round pick and White being a 5th or 6th round pick depends if he runs a sub 4.5 at the combine or not.
I say who cares. Bolden ran a darn 4.8 and he was the most productive WR ever over the course of his first 5 seasons.
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I'm currently watching the Lil Ceasar's Bowl, and Purdue has absoloutely no means to cover this guy. He is literally catching EVERYTHING thrown anywhere in his remote viscinity. The one-handed catch he caught at the 10 with four defenders surrounding him was just plain SICK. So far he's at 6 grabs for 140+ yards and a TD.
White leads the nation in both receiving yards per game (137.2) and receptions per game (10.6). He has nine 100-yard receiving performances and has seven games with 12 or more receptions and two others with nine. White also finds the end zone, recording multiple touchdown receptions in seven contests this season. His 16 receiving scores ranks second nationally.
Currently Jones is only projected as 4-6th rounder, as he doesn't possess much size, or top end speed, but the last I checked, BEING OPEN is what you're being paid to at the position, and White is open all day long at every game it seems.
If this guy can replicate some merit of his college success in the pros, I think he has real value. His talent simply can't be denied, and with 6 yrs experience at the collegiate level, he definitely knows the ins and out of reading coverages. Congrats to Jones for becoming the alltime receiving leader in Broncos history, quite an accomplishment.
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Colston has quietly been one the NFL's most productive receivers over the past 5 years. I think he deserves to get paid.
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Poor Marino. The guy is always nagged for not winning the win big, and I always think 'at least he has his records to hold on to'. Only it seems that every year another one is getting broken.
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I'd much prefer Gonzalez over ANY of the WRs you mention. I wouldn't want Jackson anywhere near the Colts. I can't stand prima donnas like that.
Is this unrational Colts bias or do you actually mean this? How is Jackson a prima donna? Because he got benched for being late for a practice? Because he celebrates TDs like 90% of the wide receivers in this league? Ansy Reid has actually spoken really highly of this man.
Character aside, it is obvious who is the more productive player; Jackson has out-produced Gonzalez on every level imaginable, and has scored 20 rec TDs, compared to Gonzo's 7, and that's not including his 4 on Special Teams (another area where Jackson is greatly valued). Jackson will be signing a multi-million dollar contract in the offseason and Gonzo will most likely be sitting on the couch.
Steve Smith has caught over 100 balls in one season playing the same position with Peyton's little brother, which is more than Gonzalez has caught in his whole career (99).
Jordy Nelson has emerged as one of this games' premier receivers this season. This year alone he has 1,101 rec. yards, 12 TDS and the highest YPC in the NFL at 18.7. Gonzo has 1,307 7 TDS and 13.2 YPC over the couirse of his entire career.
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Congrats to Brees, the guy is a class act and a team player. Couldn't have happened to a better guy.
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I understand your point of view. But with Harper and David gone, you knew DB was our main need, and we opted for a slot receiver instead. Sometimes you take the best player available, but Gonza was definitely a stetch any way you look at it.
We still don't have a shut down corner, a big time RB, or an elite deep threat WR and we could have gotten them all, or at least two of the three, had we drafted smarter.
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Has to the Eagles. They have arguably the most talented roster in football.
Chargers are notorious for trying to overcome early season slumps with a late season surge. This year was vintage Chargers, only they played better at the beginning of the season than usual, and really played awful mid-season, losing 7 games in a row. Once again, their turnover differential was god-awful, mostly in part to Rivers' 20 INTs.
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I know after this seaon, a large majority of you guys want Bill Polian out of town (don't hold your breath), but the fact remains that few GMS in the league today have a track record as successful as this guy. Bill Polian has long been regarded as one of the very best for building franchises up from the ashes, and our team is living proof. Throughout the late 90's and and early 2000's it seems he was dead on the money with the vast majority of his early and late round picks. A quick recap as far as 2002:
2002: We landed Freeney, Tripplet, and Thornton in the first four rounds. A+
2003: Dallas Clark (1st), Mike Doss (2nd), Robert Mathis (5th), Cato June (6th) A+
2004: Bob Sanders in the 2nd. Other quality picks like Jason David and Jake Scott in later rounds. B+
2005: Finally focused on our sedondary. Marlin Jackson and Kelvin Hayden were two quality corners in the first and second rounds respectively, Landed Giordano in the 4th. B+
2006: Addai was a quality 1st rounder. Tim Jennings was a great corner, only you wouldn't know it until the Bears picked him up and actually let him play. Bethea was probably the steal of the draft. B+
I posted these picks to assure you guys that this thread is not a knock on the success of our most beloved and cherished GM.
2007 however, no matter which way you look at it, was a complete and total failure; certanly the worst of Mr. Polian's tenure with the team, and amongst the worst in the history of the organization. Now I know a bunch of you are gonna say: 'No way, Anthony Gonzales was a quality pick that played great in Marvin's absense blah blah', but let's take a closer look at the situation:
Fact of the matter is Gonzales wasn't projected to be a first round pick, and he never should have been. We lost both Hayden and David to FA that offseason and really should have addressed our depleted and thin secondary (Hughes in round three was marginal help at best). Chris Houston out of Arkansas, a projected mid first rounder, fell to us at 32 overall and was widely considered the best overall player available on the board at any postion. I thought he was ours, no questions asked. Our number one need is a CB and the best player available is a CB. Seems pretty open and shut right? Wrong. We blew it.
Watching Houston play the other night against San Diego was remarkable. The plays he made on the ball were incredible, and Rivers routinely threw away from Houston, whether he was matched up on Vincent Jackson or not. Houston came up with an INT off one the few balls that was thrown at him. What's not to like about this guy - he is easily one of the best man coverage corners in football: fluid in transition, with exceptional ball skills, and he is one of the league's fastest players (4.32 40time at the combine). Despite missing time this year due to injuries, he is having a pro bowl caliber season with 5 INTs including one to the house. He is the main reason why the Lions' depleted secondary has held up this year, and a primary player in the contribution to the Lions' first playoff appearence in over a decade. Gonzalez, in all fairness, has not been healthy over the past few seasons, but nonetheless, even if you took into account his upside, I think Houston would have been far and away the better pick, both in regards to team needs, and biggest potential upside for the future. If we had WR needs, Sidney Rice out of South Carolina would have been the far better pick. Gonzalez is talented, but he just doesn't have the physical presence of a player like Rice. When healthy, he brings a Larry Fitzgerald-type presence to the game, as his size and athleticism make him a matchup nightmare for any opposing defence.
Our second round pick, Tony Ugoh, was undoubtedly one of our biggest busts in recent memory and the real disaster of this draft.
So as I remember, I'm still soaking in the dissapointment of our first round pick, as I watch the NFL draft, and suddenly the Colts trade up with the 49ers, and cough up next years 1st round pick for a remaining player on the board. At this point Houston is gone, so I'm really wondering what Polian has on his agenda. Our O-line was aging and getting pretty thin admittedly, but with Joe Thomas, Joe Staley, and Levi Brown all long gone in the first I was really confused as to who we were stretching for, as there were no projected first rounders that had fallen to the second at that position. For some reason, Bill Polian figured Ugoh was the guy to protect Manning. His belief was so strong in fact, that he was willing enough to pass up a high potential lineman for the previous season for this guy.
If you really look at this pick, it was such a horrible mistake for this organization. Not only was it a complete waste of our 2007 second round selection, but it ultimately killed our 2008 draft in the same respect. Trading a first round pick for a projected mid to late second rounder doesn't make much sense to begin with, but when you figure the players we passed up on, it doens't make the situation any easier to swallow. Figure this, probowl players Sidney Rice (WR - Vikings), Lamar Woodley (Steelers - LB), WR Steve Smith (Giants/Eagles - WR), and Ryan Kalil (C - Panthers) were all within our grasps and have since all accomplished great productive NFL seasons. We past on them all for Mr. Ugoh, a player who's potential upside was always been overshadowed by his lack of work ethic and football awareness. It still stings just thinking about it.
This pick of course, would continue to haunt us throughout the next season. Aside from the players we passed up on for Ugoh in the 2007 NFL draft, here's a look at the players that would have still been available to at the 31st overall pick the following year: Bears' RB Matt Forte (one of my favorite players in the league), Eagles' WR Desean Jackson (proabably the game's best deep threat after Mike Wallace), Redskins' TE Fred Davis (Skins' leading receiver), Saints' CB Tracey Porter (boy did that ever come back to bite us in the rear), Ravens' RB Ray Rice, Packers WR Jordy Nelson, Chiefs' CB Brandon Flowers (maybe second best cover CB in football after Revis), Cheifs' RB Jamal Charles, and Giants' safety Kenny Phillips, among others.
Thats right folks. We could have had arguably the leagues best WR combo with Wayne + Jackson/Rice/Nelson, the leagues' best cover corner tandom in Houston/Flowers/Porter, or the some of the leagues best runners and pass rushers with Woodley/Rice/Forte.
Instead, we got a couple sub-par years from an out-of shape linemen who never lived up to his physical potential - even in college, and an above average slot receiver that only produced such big numbers in college due to playing accross from Ginn Jr (another Buckeyes WR who never should have never went as high as he did). He has rarely stayed healthy for a full season and has since been reduced to our second string slot receiver by a much better WR that we were able to land in FOURTH in Austin Collie!!
Alas, Ugoh is gone, and Gonzales will probably follow suit and be out of town next year. I am surely no NFL caliber scout when it comes to evaluating college talent, but I can't stress to you guys enough the level of dissapointment I felt that cold dreary day on April 19th, 2007. I know a lot of you guys will retort that Mr. Polian was addressing team needs above all else (which is balony - CB was our first and foremost need that year without question: still is) but sometimes you have to draft the best player available. In many cases, time tells the tale and justifies these sort ofthings, but in this particular case, 20/20 hindsight has only made the sting grow worse.
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Fortson DT, Miami
Forsten is playing another year with the Hurricanes. I think next year he will be a 1st/2nd rounder.
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Love the emphasis on defense in the first three rounds!
If the Colts dont land Luck, I would love to see them draft towards defense in the first 3 rounds.
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1. CB Morris Claiborne
2. SS Mark Barron
3. WR Ryan Broyles
4. DT Tydreke Powell
5. G/C Will Blackwell
6. DE Malik Jackson
7. QB Case Keenum
- Barron would be a real steal if he slipped out of the first to us at the 33rd pick, but with TJ Macdonald and Ray-Ray Armstrong returning back for another year at USC and Miami respectively, I seriously doubt it. The gap between Barron and the next best safety is too huge.
- Broyles could be a legitimate steal in the third. He has a tremendous risk/reward, given his knee injury, but I love the pick. Injuries aside, I feel this guy is a first round talent.
- Powell is a solid player, but I feel he benefited tremendously from playing with Quinton Coples and Kareem Martin. Seeing as this is a relatively weak DT class, he could go sooner than later, I just feel that there will be better players than him left on the board still.
- LSU offensive players always take the back seat to their defensive players, but I feel Blackwell is very underrated. Given his versatility, I feel he should be ranked higher than he is. He could probably be a sufficient backup to Diem, but I think he has starter potential. Josh Dwaraczyk and Alex Hurst are also very underrated IMO.
- Solid list overall.
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1. Morris Claiborne - DB -- LSU
2. Fletcher Cox - DT -- Miss St.
3. Michael Brewster -- C -- Ohio St.
4. Jared Crich -- DT -- Nebraska
5. Joes Foreman -- OG -- MSU
6. Nick Provo -- TE -- Syracuse
6. Joe Adams - WR -- Arkansas
7. Matt Merletti -- DB/S -- North Carolina
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Tarik Glenn? Sure, he can get in. All he needs is a ticket.
Why is Tarik Glen such a long shot at the HOF? He was a first round pick out of California in 97', and he and Marvin Harrison were the first two pieces essentially, in rebuilding this franchise back into playoff team from the ground up. He was a physical phemom, great in man and zone blocking schemes, and was an integral part of Mannings' and James' HOF numbers.
He played at starting tackle at a very high level for 10 seasons straight, and only missed 6 games his whole career, during an injury stretch in 2003. He was a multiple pro bowler, and certainly the best offensive linemen we've had during the Manning era. On top of that, he won the big one in 2006 and retired on top of the world.
You don't think this holds any merit?
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Hosely led the conference with 9 INTs just two seasons ago. He has first round/early second rounnd value.
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Nice list. Well thought out and relevant to both team needs, and the top players left oon the board, Couple thoughts:
- Jerel Worthy has been a monster for MSU his whole college career. He reminds me of a young Kris Jenkins, Him and Wilfork would be hella scary.
- Barron would be a perfect fit for the Cowboys IMO. He reminds me of a young Roy Williams, but with even better ball awareness.
- Janoris Jenkins makes a lot of sense for the Bengals. Nate Clements is at the end of his rope, he was only signed to 1-year deal, and the Bengals need a guy to replace Jonathan Joseph who they lost to free agency. Jenkins is a true talent at CB, he has exceptional burst and great ball skills plus he certainly plays bigger than his 5'9 frame. Off-field issues are the main concern with this guy (he has had multiple arrests) which many feel may hinder his stock. Bengals track record however, includes Pacman Jones, Chris Henry, and Terrell Owens, so they are no stranger to taking risks with players, especially one with as tremendous an upside as Jenkins.
- Brandon Thompson, DT out of Clemson I feel will be a mid-to-late 1st round pick. Teams have really emphasized drafting big run stuffers in the middle the past few years, and I can see Thompson generating a lot of interest. He and Worthy are in a class of their own as far as DTs go. I could see him going to the Texans for sure.
- I think Stephen Gilmore might be a bit of a stretch for the 1st round. He is better suited for a Colts-style cover two scheme than anything. I think Jayron Hoseley (VTech), Chase Minnefield (Virginia), and Alphonso Dennard (Nebraska) all have higher value at such a high pick.
- Dunta Hightower could go in the first round easily, making it 4 first round NFL picks from the Crimson Tide this year. Has there ever been a draft with four players from one defense going in the first?
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9-7 tops even with Manning. Texans beat us the past two seasons with Manning, and I think they'd still have won at least one of the two meetings this year as well. Houston have all around much more depth IMO, they've had injuries to 4 of their key players - Foster, Shaub, Johnson, and Williams - 3 are still out, and they still get the job done. I know Sunday wasn't pretty against Carolina LOL, but every team has a bad game here and there and they were riding a 7 or 8 game win streak prior to that game if my memory serves me correct.
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I don't think we'll win another game, but if we do get the #3 pick then trade down to the Dolphins for their 1st which will be around 8, their 3rd and next years 1st and 5th round. Just a random trade but if they do that our draft could be
1st - Claiborne CB
2nd - Barron SS
3rd - Crick DE/DT
3rd - Streeter WR
4th - Lonnie Edwards OG
If it were a perfect world, then yes. Those two players would upgrade our secondary immediately. However, I can't see Mark Barron slipping that far. He is even better playmaker at this stage of his career than guys like Eric Berry, Laron Landry and Earl Thomas were, who all went in the top half of the first round in their respective classes. Streeter is a bit of a strecth for the third round. He brings good deep speed, but this does not always translate to big plays (see Oakland)
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Viking will most definitely draft Luck, regardless of their affliction towards Ponder.
And RG3 is not a first round player, let alone a 2-3 overall pick type player. If we don't take Luck it will be the classic question: draft to our biggest weakness or draft the best player available. We have so many needs just about everywhere on the field, that the latter might be more productive to our success.
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He's fast, but it still a different type of receiver than Moss. Even with Harrison, we wouldn't try to take the top off the defense like Culpepper & Brady did with Moss which was mostly due to his height advantage and his speed. He could go get the jump ball where Marvin couldn't do the same.
I still contribute the shift in the offense as as much to Manning's injury as anything. I'm also not calling a 30 yard pass a deep ball, but consider the fact that from 2002 to 2006 Manning averaged 5.8 41+ yard pass attempts a year, and 2007 following the injury in the Washington game he averaged 2 attempts per year from 2007-2010. It has to do with a combination of factors, Injured nec/arm strength, change in offensive philosophy, weaker OL, more inexperience at the WR position with the loss of 88 & 83 and age. All are contributing factors, but I put the majority on the Neck/arm strength issue.
I agree. Peyton was also pretty inconsistent when he came off his first injury and missed the entire training camp; he didn't really hit stride until about 2/3s through the season.
Also, as you mentioned when talking about Moss, we've never had a big body jump ball receiver who can get the balll at its highest point of atack. A perfect example would be Vincent Jackson for the Chargers. He doesn't have the greatest burst, but he runs strong, and uses his 6'5 frame and uncanny body control to challenge almost any ball thrown deep down the sidelines.
Some guys get automatic throws when they receive one-on-one coverage regardless of how much seperation they can generate, simply by using size and athletism. Out biggest target is Garcon, who is barely 6'0 and 200 lbs.
Pereira Vs Gruden
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I love watching Gruden call MNF. He is so firey and passionate, it's as it he is still coaching from the play by play booth.
Pareira does a darn good job I'll give him that. He has an answer/explanation for everything as outlandish as it may seem at times. Not a big fan though, I hate how he refuses to accept any blame for his officials' errors.