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Would love this draft, if it happened. I am adding here rankings of some popular choices for Pick 59 listed on these boards (Lamarcus Joyner, Jeremiah Attaochu, Terrence Brooks, and Marcus Smith) ranked by draft site according to the Huddle Report (which ranks the accuracy of predictions; how many of the site's top 100 were actually drafted in the top 100).
Huddle Report (5 year results) 1 BOB McGINN Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (hasn't posted list yet), 2 DRAFT ACE, 3 DRAFT BOARD GURU, 4 DRAFT COUNTDOWN, 5 NFL DRAFT SCOUT (CBS)
Draft Ace
25 Marcus Smith, 33 Jeremiah Attaochu, 39 Lamarcus Joyner, 50 Terrence Brooks
Draft Board Guru
47 Lamarcus Joyner, 62 Jeremiah Attaochu, 67 Terrence Brooks, 71 Marcus Smith
Draft Countdown
39 Lamarcus Joyner, 58 Jeremiah Attaochu, 81 Terrence Brooks, 82 Marcus Smith
NFL Draft Scout
47 Jeremiah Attaochu, 51 Lamarcus Joyner, 71 Terrence Brooks, 81 Marcus Smith
Each of these choices has some flaw that causes them to drop, although I have seen Attaochu as a first rounder recently. For Joyner, it is his height, ditto Terrence Brooks, Marcus Smith is downgraded for his inexperience. Fans of other players, no scorn, please.
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As for Pick 90, what about Pierre Desir or Jaylen Watkins? Both are big enough to play safety. The knock on Desir is his small college background and lack of technique. He ran a 4.59 at the Combine and a 4.52 at Pro Day, so you wonder if he is fast enough to stay at cornerback. Watkins (6-0, 194) is a bit smaller than Desir (6-1, 198) but ran a 4.41 at the Combine.
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There are videos of Bucannon and Brooks. I haven't watched them all, and certainly the real scouts have more, but my impression is that Bucannon is too often taken out of the play by a single blocker. Brooks by contrast is a revelation. I know he played for a top defense and may have been helped by the others, but it becomes clear that he was the heart of that defense. People around the team say the same thing. On running plays to the outside, you see the play developing and watch the blocking and all of a sudden from off the screen here comes Brooks like a meteor and demolishes the runner. Be nice to see from the Colts run defense.
That said, I don't think he will be there at Pick 59. Deone may well be available and that would be OK. There is another thread on Marcus Smith DE/OLB and I have been persuaded that he will be the pick if available.
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How about this one: Houston moves down because they don't like any of the top 3 QBs. I don't like Bortles, Bridgwater or Manziel either. I would hate it if Houston got Derek Carr, plus a bunch of draft picks.
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Forgot to mention Terrance Mitchell, DB, Oregon, who had a private meeting with the Colts.
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I think Marcus Smith will be there at Pick 59. One reason is the number of DE/OLB types rated late first to 2nd round: Dee Ford, Ryan Shazier, Kyle Van Noy, Jeremiah Attaochu, Scott Crichton, Trent Murphy, Demarcus Lawrence, Carl Bradford, Kareem Martin. Most have 40 times around 4.7, as Smith does.
So what about the secondary? My hope is that Pierre Desir falls to Pick 90. Other possibilities are Jaylen Watkins, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Loucheiz Purifoy, maybe Keith McGill, although he has been rising in the ratings. Many of the cornerbacks in this draft have played safety too.
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Walter Football has Mitchell in Rounds 3-5; Optimumscouting.com UDFA; Nawrocki (nfl.com) Rounds 3-4; Cbssports R 7; DraftAce R4ish. All the secondary projections this year are like that: all over the place.
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I watched a few Youtube videos on these guys. If available, I prefer the ones that have a whole game instead of just highlights. Terrence Brooks looks great; Deone Bucannon not as much. If selected, Lamarcus Joyner would be a fan favorite. He is a dynamo (until he gets injured a la Bob Sanders, I suppose).
On Brooks, the main criticisms are his height (5'11"), his relative inexperience and his tackling technique. He doesn't wrap up consistently, but I think he would get by fine with a little help from Pagano and Co.
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Many of the players listed as cornerbacks can play free safety and often have in their college career. Lamarcus Joyner is one of those. Another name for the list is Dion Bailey.
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Charlie Campbell of Walter Football projects Adrian Hubbard at Pick 170. I would be very happy to pick him up at 166. You too I'm guessing.
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I don't disagree with your assessment of Hubbard's ability. It is comments like the following from NFL.com's Nawrocki that make me think he may drop. "WEAKNESSES: Lacks elite edge speed, burst and explosion. Does not make plays and too often disappears for stretches. Instincts are still developing -- can be lured by play-action and misdirection. Average career sack production (10 sacks). Has a quirky personality, inflated opinion of his ability and carries a sense of entitlement that could be difficult to manage and require a patient positional coach." Of course, it only takes one team to like him and he does have ability.
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Oh, btw, my dream pick at 90 is Pierre Desir CB. A little off topic but my main point was that a number of possible defensive front seven guys other than Hubbard could be there at Pick 90.
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Hubbard will probably be there in the 5th round. DE's who may slip but may be able to play 3-4 LB are Marcus Smith, Demarcus Lawrence, and Trent Murphy. I would look for Ed Stinson in the late rounds. Other LB candidates: Jeremiah Attachou Round 2, Kyle Van Noy R2; others to watch for at Pick 166 Shayne Skov, Christian Jones, Preston Brown. Some think Kareem Martin can play OLB. Nothing against Hubbard but I wouldn't take him in Round 3.
It is that Pick 90 that will determine whether Ryan Grigson succeeds in this draft. It is rare for a starter to come from the bottom of Round 3, but this may be the year for it.
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I don't think this hurts the Colts. At pick 59, among the players that could help us are Lamarcus Joyner CB, Jeremiah Attaochu OLB.
Gabe Jackson G, Terrence Brooks FS. Keith McGill CB, possibly, although he is not strong against the run. None of these are DL.
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Could be a decent 3rd round pick. I think most fans on these boards would prefer Marcus Smith DE Louisville as a LB, if available at pick 90, a little faster, a little bigger.
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Responding to Gavin, a lot of the "cornerbacks," in this draft project to free safety. McGill, Jean-Baptiste, and Desir are bigger than most of the safeties. We need both, of course.
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I have listed Picks 50-74 on three popular sites to see who might be realistically available at Pick 59.
NFL.com
50. Henderson, Seantrel OT 6'7" 331 Miami
51. Williams, Andre RB 5'11" 230 Boston College
52. Mewhort, Jack OT 6'6" 309 Ohio St.
53. Richardson, Antonio OT 6'6" 336 Tennessee
54. Jernigan, Timmy NT 6'2" 299 Florida St.
55. Matthews, Jordan WR 6'3" 212 Vanderbilt
56. Landry, Jarvis WR 5'11" 205 LSU
57. Freeman, Devonta RB 5'8" 206 Florida St.
58. Loston, Craig SS 5'11" 217 LSU
59. Johnson, Anthony DT 6'2" 308 LSU
60. Urschel, John OG 6'3" 313 Penn St.
61. Breeland, Bashaud CB 5'11" 197 Clemson
62. Borland, Chris ILB 5'11" 248 Wisconsin
63. Sutton, Will DT 6'0" 303 Arizona State
64. Van Noy, Kyle OLB 6'3" 243 BYU
65. Attaochu, Jeremiah OLB 6'3" 252 Georgia Tech
66. Martin, Marcus C 6'3" 320 USC
67. S-Jenkins, Austin TE 6'5" 262 Washington
68. Ferguson, Ego DT 6'3" 315 LSU
69. Fiedorowicz, C.J. TE 6'5" 265 Iowa
70. Swanson, Travis C 6'5" 312 Arkansas
71. Skov, Shayne ILB 6'2" 245 Stanford
72. Bitonio, Joel OT 6'4" 302 Nevada
73. Thomas, De'Anthony RB 5'9" 174 Oregon
74. Exum, Antone CB 6'0" 213 Virginia Tech
CBSSports.com
50. Gabe Jackson OG 6-3 336 Mississippi State
51. Jeremiah Attaochu OLB 6-3 252 Georgia Tech
52. JaWuan James OT 6-6 311 Tennessee
53. Carlos Hyde RB 6-0 230 Ohio State
54. Donte Moncrief WR 6-2 221 Ole Miss
55. Demarcus Lawrence DE 6-3 251 Boise State
56. Marcus Roberson CB 6-0 191 Florida
57. Troy Niklas TE 6-7 270 Notre Dame
58. Weston Richburg C 6-3 298 Colorado State
59. Dominique Easley DT 6-2 288 Florida
60. Bishop Sankey RB 5-10 209 Washington
61. Jimmy Garoppolo QB 6-2 226 Eastern Illinois
62. Jeremy Hill RB 6-1 233 LSU
63. Paul Richardson WR 6-0 175 Colorado
64. Trevor Reilly OLB 6-5 245 Utah
65. Will Sutton DT 6-1 303 Arizona State
66. Keith McGill CB 6-3 211 Utah
67. Carl Bradford OLB 6-1 250 Arizona State
68. Jordan Matthews WR 6-3 212 Vanderbilt
69. Dakota Dozier OG 6-4 313 Furman
70. Trent Murphy DE 6-5 250 Stanford
71. Terrence Brooks FS 5-11 198 Florida State
72. Kelcy Quarles DT 6-4 297 South Carolina
73. Bashaud Breeland CB 5-11 197 Clemson
74. Marcus Martin C 6-3 320 Southern California
Walter Football
50. Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin
51. Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford
52. Stephon Tuitt, DE/DT, Notre Dame
53. Jeremiah Attaochu, DE/OL Georgia Tech
54. Marcus Martin, C, USC
55. Keith McGill, CB, Utah
56. Kyle Van Noy, DE/OLB, BYU
57. Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State
58. Lamarcus Joyner, CB/S, Florida State
59. Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
60. Kareem Martin, DE, North Carolina
61. Weston Richburg, C, Colorado State
62. Trent Murphy, DE/OLB, Stanford
63. Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson
64. Carl Bradford, DE/OLB, Arizona State
65. Terrence Brooks, S, Florida State
66. Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado
67. Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State
68. Dominique Easley, DT, Florida
69. Tre Mason, RB, Auburn
70. Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington
71. Gabe Jackson, G, Mississippi State
72. Bashaud Breeland, CB, Clemson
73. Devonta Freeman, RB, Florida State
74. Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas
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I would do a back flip if Hageman falls to us. Matt Miller also sees Lamarcus Joyner and Gabe Jackson available at pick 59.
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I agree with GoColts that our bloggers show an amazing knowledge of a subject many would feel is a complete waste of time
The real scouts get to look at more tape, true. On the Marcus Smith topic, I think Grigson feels about Bjorn Werner the way he feels about Khaled Holmes. He likes 'em; he picked 'em. So, a Marcus Smith pick at 59 would surprise me, but who knows. One of the pleasures of following the Colts is the unpredictable style of Ryan Grigson. -
Marcus Roberson? Gabe Jackson? Or, Brooks or Attachou would be fine.
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Marcus Roberson in the 2nd if he is there. Desir, Brandon Thomas, possible Keith McGill, may be there in the 3rd.
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The Brooks- Attachou ranking is fine. What about Gabe Jackson? Bitonio has played center and guard.
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To clarify my post, I too think this trade will not happen, so we will never know who is right. Maybe he signs with Denver and goes to the Pro Bowl and Super Bowl; maybe he retires. Ryan Grigson has made it pretty clear that he is done with free agency and is looking forward to the draft.
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Evan Mathis has been Pro Football Focus’ highest rated guard for 3 years in a row.
From Bleacher Report’s Matt Miller:
The highest-graded run-blocker in our 2014 series, Mathis is excellent in space. He’s often asked to move down the line and does so with a composed balance and great understanding of space and timing. If asked to pull and hit an outside linebacker, Mathis shows off his speed, aggressiveness and accuracy in getting to his man. He dominates at the second level with his quick first step and a tenacity in locking his hands on a defender.
So I gather from Anton that if he were asked to block in a “power scheme,” he turns into a baby. And if he plays out his contract at 5M a year for the next 3 years, and he slips from being the best guard in the NFL to maybe the 5th best, what a terrible investment. It's all about the scheme, right? The player's abilities mean nothing.
The real scouts get to look at more tape, true. On the Marcus Smith topic, I think Grigson feels about Bjorn Werner the way he feels about Khaled Holmes. He likes 'em; he picked 'em. So, a Marcus Smith pick at 59 would surprise me, but who knows. One of the pleasures of following the Colts is the unpredictable style of Ryan Grigson.
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If Marcus Smith is available at 90, the draft will be a success. Buchannon is OK, but I have two observations. In the USC game, he completely whiffed on QB Mariota, who then ran 40 yards into the end zone. Yeah, it was just one play but one you remember. A more serious criticism is his head hunting style. At least once a game, he launches himself into a ball carrier, usually when the guy is already in the grasp, and Deone lays his shoulder into the helmet. He'll do that about once in the NFL.