likm
-
Posts
209 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
1
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Gallery
Events
Blogs
Posts posted by likm
-
-
My ideal scenario... if we could pull it off, would be....
LT Anthony Castonzo - LG Ben Grubbs (free agent) - C Mike Pollak - RG Amini Silatolu (4th rd pick) - RT Ben Ijalana
The jury is out on Pollak at C... we simply haven't seen enough of him at what was his natural position. This rebuild will take more than 1 year so I say we give him a shot if Jeff leaves.
But we clearly need upgrades at OG, where we've had a revolving door of average at best talent since Jake Scott departed.
Grubbs is a solid OG who would be more cap-friendly than Carl Nicks.... and Silatolu is described as a nasty and strong, but athletic prospect who may be available when we pick at the top of round 4. He excelled at LT in Division II so he offers some depth value as well. Let Silatolu and Reitz battle it out for RG.
I also like OT Matt Reynolds form BYU as a depth selection late in the draft.
Thanks I agree we need to get the inside of the line worked out and we will be fine. I guess worst case would be 3 players but hopefully it only takes two and we can use a draft pick somewhere else.
-
There's a couple 3 FA RB's that would make our offensive line better.
OK then. Not exactly what I was looking for but I get it.
-
So, before Manning and Irsay sit down and talk about money, how exactly does the arm get evaluated by the man writing the checks? He said, she said Dr talk? Film of Peyton throwing to receivers and routes of his choice? How is velocity measured? How many and what types throws will he asked to make? I think for a good independent, unbiased large data sample the Colts should bring in Wallace, Lloyd, Moss, V. Jackson, Colston and Bowe to play catch with Peyton for a while followed by evaluations by each.
Well thats not gonna happen. I guess Peyton will throw to our receivers and our coachs and Irsay will evaluate him. Juest guessing.
-
How many players drafted or free agents will it take to solidify the offensive line. Do we have our bookends already on the roster. Did Reitz show enough that we can count on him in our future? Should Pollack be retained. I am big on having a very good offensive line even if we had to use our entire draft to build it. Let me know what you believe. Thanks.
-
Hey, I want to be more right. I want to be the righter one....er the mostest right......darn.....um....I mean, "I am the rightest projector of facts!". No....that didn't come out right. Let's see......To be right, or not to be right, THAT is the question.....crud....that one's already been used.
Hold it....I know....I know! I'll use Jaric's quote...."Suck it, haters!". Oops....since people are hating on both sides, that will just likely tick everyone off. Ok....time to quote Lennon.."All you need is love......dah...dah,dah...dah,dah.
What should the haters suck?
-
Man, can you read? I said for the most part.
And I've read many fans here say it was the fault of the front office to not stock the roster better for Peyton. I've read it quite a few times. Just because I'm a Texans fan doesn't mean I spit out random crap about how the Colts suck.
And I believe it's been well documented how much we've struggled over the years.
You are spitting out random ^chiz^ about how the Colts suck. I do not recall u ever posting here in the past decade. All of a sudden u win the division and show up here. I have never been on the Texans forum and never will be. Why would a Texan fan be on a Colt forum other then to talk crap. I dont like you and wish u would go to er own forum.
-
We should cut Addai and draft Chris Polk out of Washington in the 4th round if he's there. Our RB lineup next year should be Brown/Polk/Carter. I'm sick of Addai always being hurt, and when he's not hurt he averaged 3.7 ypc to Brown's 4.8. I was a big fan of Addai but he's lost more than a step and is just not good anymore. I think we should draft Polk because a lot of young QB's are successful because they have a go-to receiver and a great running back.
Ryan/White/Turner
Roethlisberger/Ward/Bettis
P.Manning/Harrison/Edge
Flacco/Boldin/Rice
E.Manning/Burress/Barber
Dalton/Green/Benson
And I'm sure there's a lot more, so we should draft Polk and have a Luck/Wayne(?)/Polk for the future. It is in our best interest to do so. And I'm tired of average running backs!
I remember when Peyton was first drafted and everyone was excited about "the triplets". Way back then everyone believed that was the key to a great offense was a great QB, RB and WR. Now you need more then that.......having triplets is just the start. Now u need multiple weapons on O to be a good offense. When we were a exciting O we had a Pro Bowl RB, WR, QB, TE and a good slot receiver a good 2nd WR.
We were so fun to watch back then and we could score from anywhere on the field and I knew we would put up 30 points on any D even the great Raven D.
-
You went 2-14 because a hall of fame QB disguised that for the most part, you have very average players on your team.
If you don't have Manning, I can't see why you think you'll go 10-6. Unless one of the veteran players you were referring to was Manning, and assuming he's 100% healthy. Which might be a stretch, albeit not impossible.
Darn dude u r bitter. If we are such a horrible team and Manning was our only good player then what does that say about er team? We have owned you for quite a while.
-
I would say that's because the line isn't as great. When the offensive line does a decent job of blocking, our backs can run well. One game that really sticks out for me is the Giants game we had in week 2 a few years ago. The O-line did a very good job of opening running lanes and we had something like 138 yards running.
No matter how good the O line gets our running backs are not going to do what Edge did for us.
-
We play almost exclusively indoors and in warm weather cities...
We have the greatest QB of the last 10 years and we're drafting the greatest prospect of the last 20 years.
We're probably not going to run the ball a lot...
Yeah but isnt that the reason we lost in New England all those years. Also isnt that the reason we cant convert on third and short that cost us those playoff games in San Diego or even at home. I think we all agree that we need a better running game. The Colts offense was at its best when Edge was here with the threat of run and we could play action pass.
-
the colts suck at finding rbs. I think they should hire a search committee like the bears did to find dick jauron back in the day.
Son the Colts have actually had some very good running backs. Lydell Mitcell, Faulk, Eric Dickerson, Joe Washington, Edge, Addai.
I take it er a young person.
-
Addai is the starter, no question. Back up, I would say it's an open competition. Brown had a better year, but Carter was a rookie. So who does better in training camp and OTAs, see who does better in the preseason, and go from there
I like Addai as the starter also but I asked only because in the past a lot of posters ripped Addai for "dancing" too much. I think thats Addais style and he is very good at what I call "juking" not dancing. Addai looks very quick when healthy but once he breaks thru he has no break away spped but I am a big fan of Joseph.
-
Just curious who you all think should be the starter, back up, third string?
-
Agree fully. If we do bring in a RB to training camp, I would only want it to be an undrafted rookie, I don't want to see us spending a draft pick when there is talent available at bigger positions of need
I guess the pick could be used more wisely as we have bigger needs elsewhere.
-
We're fine at RB. I like the field as it sits. Two first rounders and a third rounder that looked great last year in his debut. Brown just needs a different system to excel, I thought he'd done well to show that over the last two years.
I haer ya. I am not of the opinion we need a new RB but I believe a more dominant back like we had with Edge would take the heat off the QB and O line.
-
*F*GH*darn*S*E* donald!
lol....that was classic.
-
Do the Colts need to spend a draft pick on a RB? Should we go after a free agent RB? I personally love Joseph and I will never forget what he done for us that Super Bowl year. Problem with Addai is no break away speed. Donald has not really impressed me and he is tackled easily along with being a below average blocker. Delone, I like this kid other then the fumbles but I just dont see him as the answer yet. What about Evans? Should we upgrade at RB or what? Thanks
-
I became a Colt fan at a young age as my family is from Baltimore. My uncle took me to the Raider vs Colt playoff game that went into 2 over time periods. Memorial Stadium was crazy. I was hooked. It was so cold that day and we would warm ourselves up by drinking crab soup with lots of Old Bay out of a thermos and nippin blackberry brandy. HA My uncle would be arrested now a days for lettin a kid have alcohol but back in the day it really was not that big of a deal.
When the Colts left my entire family stopped the "love affair" with the Colts but I never did. I loved em then and I love them now.
I never understood how one mans decision to move could influence er love or hatred of er team. I dont care where they play.
Go Colts
-
My analysis of the Colts' prospects for contending in 2012 that I posted a few days ago in a different thread ...
Are the Colts REALLY in full blown rebuild mode?
I mean, IF they re-sign Wayne and Garcon, with a "healthy" Peyton Manning, is the Colts offense better or worse than their 2009 Super Bowl almost undefeated team? Let's analyze ...
QB - Starter ... With a healthy Peyton Manning, almost equal, maybe just a little bit of Rust. If we can believe the reports, Manning has been dealing with the nerve damage thing for several years, including 2009. Hence, if the surgery really takes, he might actually be HEALTHIER than in the past. Physically, he certainly would be fresher. He'd just have some rust to work through and some schematic / coaching changes to familiarize himself with.
QB - Backup ... Let's assume that the Colts select Andrew Luck instead of trading the pick. Instantly, as a group. the Colts are much deeper at QB.
QB Conclusion - equal to or better than the 2009 Super Bowl participant Colts.
RB - Addai, Brown, Carter & Fullback. Scheme is huge and with a better offensive scheme oriented to a more effective running game, the Colts of 2012 have more talent / better evolved talent than in 2009. Health remains the issue. If Addai and Brown can remain healthy, if Delone Carter progresses and eliminates the fumbles, and if the scheme takes advantage of an effective fullback, the Colts at running back are much better than in 2012.
Receivers - Clark, assuming he is healthy, is maybe not the player he was three years ago, but he can still be very effective. Tamme, if re-signed, improves depth and versatility as compared to 2009, and with Brody Eldridge, again if healthy, the Colts have more depth and blocking ability at TE. 2012 Colts would be equal to or better at TE than their nearly great 2009 team.
In the slot, Collie has had a full year now to recover from his concussion woes and he is more experienced. This year should be Collie's best, better than his rookie season of 2009 and what looked to be his coming out party of 2010 before the injuries derailed him. Collie still has an upside of emerging as one of the game's best slot receivers.
Gonzo, a non entity now for years, likely won't be back. That being said, if one believes he is still talented, then why not bring him back to see if he can turn the corner? It's not like he commands anything salary-wise in free agency, so bring him in, see if he has the ability to actually win a roster spot and see if he looks to finally be healthy. Gonzo is a nothing to lose, lots to gain player at this point, who will come on the cheap. If during training camp he shows anything other than perfect good health, then you cut him loose. Low risk, high reward potential.
Reggie Wayne - if re-signed he still has game. He may not be the break away number one threat that he used to be, but he's still a top flight, route precision WR that needs to be accounted for.
Any decline in Reggie Wayne is compensated for by the continued development of Pierre Garcon. Garcon is a game changer who continues to improve. He still has concentration issues when it comes to making the easy catches, but really, what WR does not drop the easy ones occasionally. This past year I have seen almost every elite receive drop a few easy ones, that were often drive killers, so I think the flack Garcon has sometimes gotten for dropsies is a little bit excessive in relation to his upside that he brings to the table. Honestly, I think that Garcon is emerging over Wayne as the Colts new number 1 receiver, similarly to how Wayne was emerging over Harrison during Harrison's last three years with the Colts.
With Health, the receiving corps is equal to the Colts of 2009. Now consider, maybe a 2nd or 3rd round WR talent from this years apparently deep WR class might add a new dimension to the receiving corps. Regardless, with the resigning of Wayne, Garcon, and Tamme, the Colts of 2012 are certainly close to par with the 2009 Colts receiving group.
Offensive Line - They sucked in 2009, they sucked in 2010, and generally they also sucked in 2011. The thing is, they added two fantastic prospects in OTs Castonzo and Ijalana. There is no doubt whatsoever that Castonzo should be much improved in 2012 and the same can be said for Ijalana, though he is coming off of a bad injury. For Castonzo's improvement alone, the Colts should be better at OT than during the past three years. If Ijalana can deliver, the Colts will be MUCH better at OT.
At OG, with current personnel, they are certainly equal to 2009, maybe arguably better than 2009. Throw in the expectation that maybe, just maybe the Colts can go out there and get a top OG FA or OG draft prospect, then I see the interior of the OL as being equal to or better than in 2009.
At C - if Manning makes it back, then there is a good chance Saturday returns again, too. Saturday looked to be on the decline in 2009, some saying he was starting to look like the weak link. He was pretty good in 2010, but last year, he was actually better than he had been in years. If Saturday does not return, then C becomes a big question mark. His replacement may (Mike Pollak) or may not already be on the team.
All in all, I think the OL remains a weakness that needs to be upgraded, but by evolution alone (Castonzo and Ijalana) they may be better than any O-Line the Colts have had for the past three years. Hence, I would peg the Colts line as being equal to or better than in 2009.
Coaching / Philosophy - With the return of a healthy Peyton Manning, I think the coaching / philosophy of the offense will be equal to or better than during their 2009 Super Bowl run. With a more balanced approach, and with good health, with Peyton Manning there is no reason why the Colts offense of 2012 cannot be equal to or greater than the Colts offense of 2009.
Offensive Conclusion = With a healthy Peyton Manning, the Colts offense is not in full blown rebuild mode, but rather, will be on high flying, in need of only minor tweaking mode. The Colts offense, with health, should be top ten in the NFL!
As for Defense, there is a rebuild / philosophy change going on, but there are still some excellent key cogs. The Defensive Line, with Mathis re-signed, is as good or better than in 2009. I say better because by the addition of Drake Nevis alone, they are better. Moala is more experienced. Johnson is apparently still there, and the Colts "may" actually add another key cog this year, either through FA or the draft. If another key cog at DT can be added, with retaining who we currently have and continued development of Nevis, the DL may actually be appreciably better than anytime in the past three years.
At LB, there remains question marks, but personnel-wise, quite simply I believe the Colts are better than in 2009.
Secondary = Colts defensive weakness. Are they really any weaker than in 2009, though? Powers is a near stud, when he can stay healthy, so on the Corner it's all about finding just one more guy. Their picks from the past two years might develop or maybe the Colts will improve via the draft or free agency. Improve they must, though.
At safety, with Bethea, the Colts are as good as ever at FS. SS remains a question. They really cannot be any worse, though, than during the past three years.
Ultimately, imho, the Colts defense is 3, maybe 4 players (DT, LB, SS, CB) away from being really formidable. More importantly, though, I think our defense in 2012 will be better than in 2009 simply by virtue of coaching / philosophical changes. With the new regime, the D is viewed as the area with the most upside, even though it is also, arguably, the area in greatest need of improvement. Generally, though, the defense has been the Achilles heel of the team (other than special teams), so I don't think things are any worse than in the past three years (assuming Mathis is re-signed) and in fact, I think things look to get better than during the past three years.
Hence, assuming a healthy Peyton Manning, to me, the Colts looks to be BETTER in 2012 than in their nearly undefeated, Super Bowl participating year of 2009. Thus, if Manning can be healthy, I think it is entirely realistic to have an expectation that the Colts can reclaim the division championship and actually contend for the Super Bowl during the 2012 season. Sure it won't be easy, but with one or two key additions on offense and 2 - 4 key additions on defense, the Colts can be WAY better than in 2009. Also keep in mind, by my count, in 2011 if special teams has showed up and been even mediocre and had Manning played, at the halfway point of 2011 I had the Colts pegged at being 5 - 3. After the 0 - 8 start, I quit keeping track for the second half of the season. Point being, it is such a thin line between losing and winning in the NFL and that as bad as thing turned out in 20122, things are not nearly as dire as the Colts record would lead most to believe.
So in closing, I say that, with a healthy Peyton Manning, the 2012 Colts look to be a better team than the 14-2 Super Bowl participating team of 2009. Hence, the return of Peyton Manning, with the retention of a few key free agents, along with only a few key player upgrades puts the Colts right back into the mix of realistically contending for a Super Bowl. Thus, it would not be a mistake for Manning to return to the Colts.
The Alternative, no Manning, and therefore probably also no Saturday and no Wayne. Maybe even no Clark and no Mathis. Without Manning, the Colts are much more likely to be in full on rebuild mode, as compared to if he can come back healthy. By reason, what is best for the Colts, regardless of whether or not they take Luck, is the return of a healthy Peyton Manning. Such will guarantee most immediate results and lead to a more painless transition to the Luck era.
That's my convoluted take. Cheers!
Good job. A lot of what you posted is why I believe the Colts can be competitive next year and beyond. We differ in the fact that you believe we will be competitive with Manning at QB. I would be very surprised if Peyton is our QB next year. I see Luck starting from day 1.
A lot of people forget this team in the past 5 years has been to 2 SB's.
I truly believe the Colts will be fine. Coaching changes were needed and now we need to finish building around the young talent we have.
-
I don't care what you have done to Denver in the past 10 years. What you gave us with Elway was far more worth it. I have no hatred for the colts, just giving my opinion.
Thank you for confirming my thought. HA
-
And Garcon could be a hot option in free agency, he is young fast and physical and many teams can offer him good sized contracts like Jacksonville, Houston, Washington, and Tampa Bay.
Denver fan I am having a hard time with er posts. I feel that they reflect the hatred you have for our team because we broke er hart so many times. Quit living in the past. We "owned" the Broncos a few games and sent you home crying but thats no reason for you to come here with all er hatred.
-
I believe that we are much farther away from being a good football team than you think. Peyton won't be back (hope I'm wrong) so we have to get a QB for the future. Perhaps 2012 is the year that we finally "coach" defense. We play in a Division that usually runs all over us 6 games out of the year so shoring up our run defense is what we need. We have been trying to find that big DT and if we are going to a 3 - 4 then it is imperative that we get one quickly. You are quite optimistic and I can always dream. I suspect that we are 4 or 5 years away from being a perrenial post season team again. I just don't want another 2011 season ever again. GO COLTS!
4 or 5 years? I believe the Colts went from 3-13 to 13-3 in one off season when Peyton was drafted. If it takes 5 years then Grigson is not doing his job.
-
Colts coaching staff has to step up and do a good job of teaching. If that happens we are about 8 players away from the SB.
Great point.....our coaching staff was horrible and we were at a huge disadvantage this past year. The Defensive philisophy was pathetic.............sit back in a zone every 3rd down. That was so frustrating.
This team is not that far away.
-
That is a lot to get in one draft and probably near impossible when the first pick is spoken for in terms of a qb.
The players will not only come from the draft. We can sign free agents and hopefully find an undrafted free agent or 2.
Wide Receiver Talent
in Colts Football
Posted
Do the colts have enough talent at WR? Do we need to address WR in the draft or free agency? I love Reggie as most here do but he is not in his prime any longer and struggles to get seperation. Austin Collie just blew me away when we first drafted him. I believe he is over the concussions and is great weapon. Garcons speed and physicality is unique as far as what we are used to at WR but he is not the greatest route runner and drops a few more then most. Blair White is capable but I think we can do better. I think we need to spend a draft pick or acquire a talented wide out for this year. What do you all think and thanks. I am attempting to figure out how many players we need to be competitive this year and in the future.