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22 minutes ago, shastamasta said:
Subtle differences...LOL. Subtle...as in you can't actually point to anything.
I can't point to stats, no. But the discipline was not there on either side of the ball. They didn't play terrible but the offense was just sloppier with Hoyer in there, and it stands to reason because, again, players aren't as familiar with Hoyer and the trust factor isn't there.
it's nothing magical, it's just the difference between a guy you practiced with for years and a guy who was brought in after training camp this season.
And I hasten to mention that Hoyer still managed the game adequately, even with the disastrous giveaway which frankly can happen to anyone. But there was a crispness in execution, especially in the last minutes of the game, that Brissett frequently manages and Hoyer didn't quite rise to that level.
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8 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Hoyer played well enough that the Colts should have won. The Colts made lots of mistakes. Most had little to do with Hoyer. We still could have easily won despite Hoyer’s one bad throw.but it is true that I was very disappointed in Hoyer as a traditional game manager. You just got that sense that you never have wit Brissett that the team wasn't quite all pulling in the same direction, especially with the mistakes on the defensive end of the game and the relative lack of discipline.
That really should be one of Hoyer's key areas, but that goes to something we can't track easily on the scout sheet -- the team just doesn't know brian Hoyer as well as they know Jacoby Brissett, and it makes a difference in a million subtle ways.
Losing the center matters more than some fans think as well. Ryan Kelly is a literally and figuratively huge member of the team. Centers are like catchers in baseball -- a good one is way, way more than the sum of their parts.
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21 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
If that was the case they wouldn’t of waived him. They clearly don’t see it like that. If that’s what they thought they would of seen what hoyer could do with him. Last week hoyer didn’t even pass to him.
Actually he did throw 2 passes to Cain if I recall right.
He dropped both of them.
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34 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:
Yer he has been open but often in the wrong spot
Brissett doesn't have pinpoint accuracy on his long range throws. Like a lot of QBs, when he goes deep he throws to an area and expects the WR to be running to that area where they can make an undisputed catch.
Cain can look wide open, but if he's got the safety within 3-4 feet, the throw-to-an-area deep ball will result in a pick. Out that deep safeties have time to get under your route if you're not alert.
Without top of the line accuracy you have to run timing plays to try to make sure your guy is the only one who can catch the ball you put up.
On deep throws you've either got to get behind the safety or run a clean route to a soft spot in the zone. Brissett's not gonna willingly throw 50-50 balls at those range. Cain doesn't just have to get open, he has to get open for a timed throw and run a route that allows Brissett to beat the secondary, and he just isn't doing it.
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35 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:
hopefully cain goes to the PS I dont think his struggles were all on him JB straight up ignores him 90% of the time or throws terrible throws when he does see him.
JB is out sunday according to the colts app
He did nothing useful with Hoyer in there either. At some point it's time to stop baming everything under the son other than Cain for Cain's shortcomings.
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Still holding out hope for 10-6. Through half the season we're literally on pace. Hopefully we can get Brissett healthy and get to the end of the season in good shape.
Really want to see Campbell step up in particular, he looks like he's close to figuring it out. No complaints about the D, no real complaints about Brissett. We have flaws like any young team will have but we are good enough to get to the playoffs barring some kind of disaster.
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9 hours ago, Myles said:
I think some of you are overeating a little bit.
I love a good pork cutlet as much as the next tubba, but I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic at hand.
:p
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9 hours ago, DEFENSE said:
seems like hoodie knows how to get proven talent every season
People focus on his abilities as a coach but Belichick might be the best GM in the history of the NFL, just rating his off the field accomplishments.
It doesn't hurt that the Patriots franchise has prestige out the wazoo and can get instant buy-in from any NFL player who walks through the door and can fearlessly cut anyone who doesn't buy in knowing there's a lineup out the door to replace them.
Ballard is good. In fact he's excellent and has done an amazing job of staffing this team with young talent. But it looks like he's not as aggressive as the Hoodie. I can't blame him for trusting his read but I wish he'd flipped the switch this year as I do think we were in position to really contend, and I'm a lot less confident of that after he does nothing and Brissett gets hurt.
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On 11/3/2019 at 9:17 PM, Ne-Ca-Higher said:
Nelson's failure to hold ground against Heyward cost Brissett and the team. Several times this year linemen and even linebackers have gotten the better of him one on one. Is he hurt? Was he tired? If not, he better strengthen those legs or work on his footwork and lean. He's not the guy we expect to be bull rushed like that.
nelson is a young OL that got outmuscled by 2 of the best DLs in the league. I wouldn't worry abut it or read too much into it. Sometimes you have to tip you cap.
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20 minutes ago, aaron11 said:
yes, he made 21 of 23 FGs in college and 72 of 74 extra points
this was from wikipedia thats all the info i have on his kicking
Mm. Something to think about then. maybe I was wrong about Ballard not having a backup plan.
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Unfortunately we can't take away the int anymore than we can take away the L.
Hoyer did play well though. I'm honestly more comfortable with him as QB2 now than I was before he played, bearing in mind that it had been years since he got any serious playing time and he still stood in there and mostly did his job.
I still think Brissett doesn't throw that pick though.
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2 hours ago, Dark_Superman said:
I love Vinatieri and everything he's done for the Colts, but I'm more than ready to move on from him.
Mmm. Problem is you'd be hard pressed to replace even the reduced version of AV we have right now, off the scrap heap.
It really does look like the best possible move is to limp into the offseason with him and re-evaluate from there. Finding a good kicker is not easy. AV isn't a good kicker anymore but neither are the obvious candidates to replace him.
Does our punter have any place kicking experience?
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On 11/5/2019 at 4:06 PM, Colts_Fan12 said:
if he had maybe shown something each week I might be more on board but really it's the same things week in and week out same struggles and honestly seeing a career backup like Hoyer come in and play better didnt help my outlook on JB.
Hoyer didn't actually play better. Going into the injury brissett was on pace for about 250 yards and had the team in the red zone. Hoyer's first pass finished off a drive that Brissett put on a tee for him.
That and... well, I don't honestly think Brissett makes the mistake that Hoyer made that Minkah picked off and ran all the way back.
Hoyer looked good in some quick pass plays that Brissett doesn't make, but that pick 6 was a killer and the Steelers' D isn't anywhere near as good as the Broncos D that shut Brissett down last week.
Hoyer played decently and looked like a capable backup. Summing that game up as "Hoyer outplayed Brissett" is ESPN level garbage. We ought to be able to do better than that.
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8 hours ago, SteelCityColt said:
How do you figure? Assuming you’ve got inside knowledge on the severity of the injury.A knee, and "only" a sprain, is limiting, but not a disaster. What it means IMHO is that he might have to be a pocket passer, which is the part of his game I honestly want him focusing on improving anyway
If the OL can hold up, you can get through a game with a bad knee as a QB. I just wouldn't expect to see any Houdini acts out of the guy.
Seeing that Kelly is perfectly fine and IMHO likely to go next Sunday is the best news so far. We really struggled without him out there.
With all that said I don't think they play him this Sunday unless it's obvious he's fine. Sprains are unpredictable.
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2 hours ago, EastStreet said:
It's going to be interesting how this year and QB pans out, and how that translates into WR personnel strategy. Given Reich's conservative play calling and JB's lack of vertical ability and/or willingness, I can see why Reich went after a possession guy like Funch in FA.
This is the role that Pascal is starting to shine in. No disrespect to Funchess, but Pascal has filled the role we originally had in mind for him. And the fact that Pascal is able to take that skillset and also score touchdowns with it is very encouraging
Not that two guys capable of playing the short pass is a bad thing.
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2 hours ago, PrincetonTiger said:
The Colts didn’t and it is time to move on
Agreed. Time to focus om the now. I just wish I was sure we were doing that before the deadline.
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2 hours ago, jskinnz said:
Sweet baby Jesus - can we get the readers digest version of this post?"we could have traded assets for any of at least a few different veteran WRs at a reasonable price and should probably have done so."
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2 hours ago, DiogoZ said:
Jackpot here.
C'mon people, our WR is kinda fine.
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11 hours ago, CoachSmok3 said:
IMO it'd be pretty hard to have an actually valid argument for some sort of trade/transaction that which the Colts should have made.
Except that we could have matched what the Patriots paid for Mohammed Sanu. I was anxious to see us go for Sanu because he is very talented and would be here beyond this year.
We also had multiple chances to pick up Demayrius Thomas, who would have cost little more than a 5th or 6th rounder and represented an upgrade over some of our depth guys.
I don't think a big trade was there on the defensive end. I also don't think we necessarily needed a big splash on defense. Our D has been adequate for the most part and I would prefer to let them mature in place and learn on the job, at least until it becomes an issue. IMHO the D has been carrying its weight.
The unit I was and still am most concerned about is WR. We don't have good depth there and a lot of what we do have is either out or playing hurt. If Pascal didn't step up we'd be on the edge of disaster right now.
The standard for what would constitute a trade that would improve the team are low enough that there's not a lot of valid excuses for sitting tight there. Especially because WR is an area where drafting talent is anything but settled science.
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7 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:
Some people need to put madden down and pay attention to what Ballard says. He loves draft picks and isn’t into going after big names. I never took any of the stories linking the Colts to players around the trade deadline seriously because of those things. It’s just not what he does.
That's actually the reason I'm concerned. I don't care about big names. But I do care about gathering the talent you need to compete.
'm beginning to be convinced that Ballard seriously overvalues draft picks when compared to the other assets and opportunities a good GM has to juggle.
You can't afford to fall in love with assets when you manage them. Draft picks are assets, not children. It wasn't unreasonaable to look at 5-2 and expect the GM to invest a few noncritical assets in trying to beef up problem areas and try to go for a run.
Even if we're not frontrunners, we had/have a fighting chance. And that has a value as well. A GM has to balance assets and opportunities, and passing up opportunities to hoard assets isn't his job unless he's tanking, which we clearly aren't.
Even one playoff win would be monumental for these developing young players. That's less likely now. That's an opportunity sacrificed in the name of hoarding draft picks, and I'm honestly not certain it was the right call.
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25 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Again, TY hurt his calf after the trade deadline.
He probably didn't.
I'll concede that it became critical enough to keep him off the field after the deadline but we knew that he had bad wheels since week 3 and that he was trying to play through it. Even if this isn't exactly the injury that he had in week 3, one leg injury often leads to others if you can't stay off it.
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2 hours ago, jvan1973 said:
He didn't trade picks for Hoyer. Apple's and hammers comparison
No but he did overpay in money and years.
Again, it made me hope that he might be willing to become a buyer. But if he's the type to be paralyzed with fear at the prospect of paying a premium for premium talent, or paying any value at all in picks, either one of those aren't good things for the Colts going forward.
Again, we were competitive, and there was probably talent out there that could have been had for a fair price. Too many teams out of it for me to think no one was selling.
If Ballard won't compete in a buyer's market, he's probably going to wind up getting close to championships several times. If that's enough for you, hooray for you. I want to do more than get close.
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2 hours ago, jvan1973 said:
I'm sure he tried. He isn't going to mortgage the future like the Texans have. They are in big trouble moving forward
I have to think there's a middle ground between squandering all your picks in a Steelers style or Texans style desperation move, and sitting on picks like Smaug on his gold, not only doing nothing about the most obvious problem on your roster, but only starting to make any notable effort to do anything literally hours before the end of the deadline.
It's not like we didn't know we might have a problem at WR. We'd known for weeks. And Ballard SHOULD have known at the deadline that TY's calf was still sketchy which was all the more reason to invest in the season before it was too late.
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41 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
We aren't super bowl contenders this year.
Not as constructed no. But we aren't that far from it. A couple good acquisitions that pan out could have put us in the mix.
I just wish Ballard had at least tried. Because you never know your luck.
Week 10 impressions: Hoyer the Destroyer (merge)
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That has to be one of the most pathetic performances I've seen from a colts Qb since the Curtis Painter era.
Can't blame the D. Any time the D holds a team to 16 points they should expect to win the game. This is 100% on the offense.
Those of you who are skeptical of Brissett, take a good look. THIS is what a bad game by a QB looks like. Exactly 0 of the "bad" games by Brissett are as awful against awful competition as Hoyer was in this game. There is no way a healthy Brissett delivers a stinker of this magnitude.
If Brissett gets healthy next week we ought to be able to salvage the season, if not, please dear God let Ballard have the intestinal courage to overrule Reich and make sure that Kelly gets the start. After this game it's clear that Hoyer is not a valid option to start a game and is a literal backup at best.
I expected some problems throwing the ball. Hoyer never had much of an arm and he's on the back 9. I did not expect the terrible decision making. I don't know how much of that is Reich and how much is Hoyer and I hope we never find out. I notice Brissett kill a few play calls a game from the sidelines and now I'm wondering how many times a game he bails out the overcautious Reich by insisting on a more aggressive playcall.
Wow, I'm steamed. Mad, frustrated, furious. Also salty. There's no reason we should have lost that game. A mix of bad execution at QB and quite frankly (and one should never EVER use this word to describe a Head Coach) TIMID playcalling have brought us to the brink of .500. This team is better than this!