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We were the better team that night.
People are acting like I'm trying to imply more than I am. I simply wanted the reminder because it was interesting to think about in light of what the Chiefs managed to do.
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We even sent them into a bit of a tail spin after we got to Mahomes a couple times and made him limp.
Granted they were missing Kareem Hunt, but it still happened.
I'm not sure if there's a point to this thread, other than to remember that it happened and that when we were playing as a unit and the injuries hadn't piled up on us yet, we managed to hand a rare L to the current Champs.
I guess I just want to point this out as evidence that this team was better than its end of season record.
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6 hours ago, stitches said:
3/18 is the absolute maximum that makes any sense for the team. I really have no idea why any team would give money to RBs when you can literally take a 4th-7th rounder and pay him 600K and he will produce similarly.
That's really untrue. The fact that you can occasionally find good running backs at lower draft rankings does not mean that running backs are plug and play. Theyre not. We've had enough running backs fail here that I know you know that.
3/18 is what you pay a good running back back in today's NFL if it suddenly magically became 2004 again while my back was turned. Times change the cap goes up and the price of talent rises.
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As for Kelly, he has some things you like to see, but I'm definitely concerned about what might happen if he gets taken off probation. Ballard is going to have to handle this very carefully. There's definitely upside there, but starting the season, week 1, he's the backup QB in my mind, see if he can handle those duties in practice and then think about letting him take a snap or two in garbage time. If he does well and Brissett is struggling you go from there.
As far as I'm concerned Brissett and Kelly are fighting for the job right now and Brissett has the inside track. If he'd finished with a winning record he'd be the undisputed starter, but he didn't. So instead of an insurmountable lead he has a surmountable one.
1 minute ago, csmopar said:Actually, we do not HAVE to do anything in the draft QB wise.
I will think less of Ballard if Hoyer breaks camp as a member of this team.
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14 hours ago, csmopar said:
Yeah, said the same thing in the Dakich interview thread. I think you’re 100 percent correct about Most of that. I don’t see is taking a 3/4 round QB, I honesty think we won’t take one at all.
We have to take a QB in the draft. I do see us making a move on a 4th round guy with upside, but I don't care if we sign a UDFA, you absolutely have to get Hoyer off this roster. I was glad to have him last year for mentorship since we had 2 inexperienced QBs ahead of him, but mentorship only goes so far once you get out on the field and fail, and Brissett now has 2 years of NFL starting experience, there's only so much to mentor there.
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8 hours ago, Myles said:
"Improving on his flaws" to me is:
Reading more than 1 or 2 receivers on each passing play.
Anticipating the defense.
Finding the open receiver.
Not holding the ball so long.
So many things that keep him from being a top 10 QB.
He has not improved his flaws from college.
3 of those 4 depend at least partially on the receiver, wouldn't you say?
Would you also concede that any QB would struggle with reading the field quickly when he doesn't have a stable receiver corps?
Or to put it another way, after TY, which WR would you count on to be open against elite defensive backs? And remember too, TY wasn't always even on the field.
Brissett did pretty well to keep the interception numbers down with all the chaos in the receiver room. He is overcautious in committing to a throw, but a better receiver unit would go a long way to mitigating that.
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2 hours ago, Myles said:
I think the "JB hating" thing is a bit too much. Just because we would like to improve at the QB position isn't hating. JB seems to be a great guy. Just because some don't think he is a QB capable of leading the team to be contenders is NOT hating.
I think JB is limited. He hasn't improved his flaws from college. If the defense is great and the running game is great, he can possibly be enough. Is that what we want? A QB that can be OK if we can mask his flaws. I'm always hoping for improvement. Glowinski can be capable, but I wouldn't mind seeing improvement at the RG position. Doesn't mean I hate Glowinski. Unfortunately at this time, it is not a high priority.
Let me just ask this: What constitutes "improving on his flaws?" Does the flaw have to no longer be a flaw at all, or can it simply be a less critical issue?
The most any given athlete is usually going to be able to do with major flaws is make them less of an issue with a mix of scheme adjustment and personal learning.
Let's not pretend that he didn't just improve on his 2017 record by 4 games, even with the terrible finish to the year. You can argue that maybe he had a more talented roster, but Andrew Luck took most of the 2017 roster to the playoffs both before and after 2017 so I have my doubts that's the issue.
So the argument that he hasn't improved at all is something that would need to be proved with facts, not just assertions.
I'd certainly accept the fact that he hasn't improved enough to satisfy fans yearning for a championship. But let's not forget either that Brissett's team fell to 7-9 after being on a 10 win pace at the half way point. If you don't see improvements there from a guy who went 3-13 his first time round, I dunno what to tell you
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7 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:
That's the issue right now, teams have adjusted to him, and he never adjusted back.
He also barely had anything to adjust with.
Come on, you've got to at least take a look at the way the supporting cast crumbled around Brissett before taking the express lane to Hot Take City like this.
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2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Too late, we could start 5-0 next season with Brissett but if he isn't throwing for 300 yards a game the same 10-15 people that pounce on him daily will still do so. They will give all the credit to the Line and Reich and say we are winning despite JB
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Those people were doing that anyway and were going to continue to do so. You are going to grow old waiting for people who have already made up their mind to change.
2 hours ago, DougDew said:Careful, you're playing with fire.
The inescapable Brissett-hating air we breath has not yet grown powerful enough to dissuade a reasonable defense yet, like it did with Grigson, but its getting close enough to where going down your path of providing a reasonable defense might get you attacked just for doing it.
I've been down that road before, i'm not really afraid of it.
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2 hours ago, Myles said:
We were 5-3.
I've only come to my conclusion because he hasn't improved. His flaws are the same as in college.
From his draft profile:
Struggles with deep ball accuracy completing just 23.1 percent on attempts of 21-plus yards. Had several overthrows when tasked with deep throws down sideline versus man coverage. Failed to recognize receivers running wide open down the seam. Gets locked in on a pre-snap plan and has issues altering his itinerary quickly.
If he starts I will be pulling for him, but I have no confidence in him improving at age 27 going into year 5 in the NFL.
Mm. Thing is, 'improvement' doesn't necessarily mean "becomes insanely good at this thing." In Brissett's case, and many other second tier QBs, improvement happens when you find a scheme that's a fit for what he can do and minimizes the issues he struggles with.
The problem with that comes when a player has a fatal flaw. Something that will seriously hold you back no matter what scheme you're in.
The good news is that you can probably scheme around a QB who holds onto the ball too long, especially if you can isolate and mitigate the cause. It's an issue, but not a fatal one. Brissett could, in theory, be worked with. Not to magically make him accurate at long range or turn him into Drew Brees, but at least get him to the point where even with these issues, we can advance the ball downfield.
This compared to Jameis Winston, whose fatal flaw is the inability to read a defense and whose instinct is to throw and hope rather than read and respond. That's how I see his issues lying, and I wouldn't touch that guy with a 10 foot pole because it speaks to a player who is stubborn, headstrong and not nearly as intelligent as he thinks he is.
I've said this before in this thread but I'd rather have a quarterback whose biggest flaw is he tries too hard to avoid turnovers, than have to coach a QB at the highest professional level how to think a pass when it's clear he'd been coasting on talent and never learned. You can coach an overcautious QB, or find him WRs he can synergize with. An overaggressive QB is much harder to train, especially if they had great success at lower levels.
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21 hours ago, Mel Kiper's Hair said:
Everyone keeps going on about the 49'ers and how they have built their team. Where were these people last year when the 49'ers were 4-12 and had the 2nd pick in the draft? You weren't wanting to be like San Francisco then. Why was San Fran 4-12 last year? Because they lost their starting QB! This year we went 7-9 and we lost our 1 week before the season started. So maybe things aren't quite as bad as people are making it out to be!
I definitely agree with that last, but I will say that I'm still convinced that Jacoby Brissett is better than the fans here let on. The guy was held back to at least some extent in the second half by a wave of injuries to key receivers.
We went into several games with Zach Pascal as our WR1. I like pascal as a WR4, but he can't get separation against elite defensive backs. That contributed directly to some of Brissett's worst habits, including holding the ball too long. If you can't develop trust with your receivers that's a trap that's all too easy to fall into. And if you start every game with replacement receivers, it's really, really hard to build trust.
I saw what Brissett could do when he had a healthy receiving unit in the first half, and it was pretty good. Let's not forget that before the wheels fell off we were 6-2 at the half and Brissett was among the league leaders in touchdowns. That went away when our receivers went away, which should come as a surprise to exactly no one.
Bottom line, we are WAY better than our 2019 record suggests we are.
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20 hours ago, Myles said:
Yes.
It is easier for a fan base to be excited and content when the future holds potential. The Giants are a good example. Daniel Jones gives them hope and I suppose they could be excited for how the team can perform. Brissett doesn't give Colts fans the same opportunity. Now if the Colts draft a QB, it is different.
I know quarterbacks are critical, but the cult of the quarterback annoys me Drew Brees had enough losing years to make it clear there's a lot more to being a successful franchise than dreaming on the QB.
IMHO dreaming on QBs is what losing franchises do to feel better about bad years. The good franchises know that a good QB is the keystone of an arch -- in a well designed system, crucial. Without all the other pieces, pointless.
No keystone can hold up an arch if the other stones of the archway are crumbling, poorly crafted or generally inferior.
At the same time, no matter how well the rest of the arch is built, an inferior keystone can ruin the whole thing, but you still need all the other pieces in place before having a good keystone even matters.
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19 hours ago, Four2itus said:
Bull crap. There would be content, perhaps not the content you prefer.
Most of the really good content on this forum happens when knowledgeable people put whiners in their place.
I stand by my statement.
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On 1/21/2020 at 12:17 PM, ColtJax said:
We're down 4 with 1:30 to go. We're on our own 20 with 1 time out left, Winston or JB, who has the best chance to pull it out for us. Winston may throw it right to the other team, but he can also drive it down the field and quickly. JB will throw it 5 yards, run up the line and throw it 3 yards then take a sack. 50/50 shot we sniff the 50.
Down 4 with 1:30 to go, Winston literally ends the game with a pick.
Brissett engineered 3 4th quarter drives to tie or go ahead last year. Not counting the game where he managed to outduel Matt Ryan and another game where he managed to keep us ahead of Deshaun Watson, and in both cases, made key 4th quarter drives to keep a lead.
Just saying -- Brissett isn't a great QB, but he's getting a raw deal from the fans. Brissett didn't go out there with the express intention of spraining his knee or force literally all of our week 1 receivers to be injured or completely ineffective. Just saying, there were a lot of points of faiure on this squad this year that were not Brissett.
If you have to have a mediocre QB, at least go with one that takes care of the football. As long as you don't turn over the football you're going to be within range of winning most of the games you play. At that point it's just down to your defense executing
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1 hour ago, aaron11 said:
its not the only thing but it should be the main goal, if its not the goal then i wouldnt watch as much
followed the pacers for over 30 years and they have never won an nba championship. sometimes it is frustrating when it seems like the team isnt even close or on track
i think its funny when people think we shouldnt complain on these forums
There would be very little content on this forum at all if it wasn't for complaining.
Championships are the destination. There's nothing wrong with enjoying the journey, there's also nothing wrong with marking our progress towards the destination.
You can simultaneously aim for the Superbowl while celebrating lesser goals. this is not an either-or proposition.
For me, I was really hoping for at least a winning season this year. We had all the talent we needed to do it but it didn't come together right. It happens.
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17 hours ago, Nesjan3 said:
pretty sure we have been "building the monster" since Manning got injured and released.
No we haven't. We were in playoff position with Luck every single year. We were not rebuilding. We were competing.
You can track the beginning of this rebuild to when Grigson was fired. It's a pity Ballard couldn't get Luck back on track but the original plan was to rebuild around Luck and try to save his career and he made a tremendous effort to try to keep him upright. Too little too late I guess.
That said, if anything, after Luck's retirement we're entering year 1 of a rebuild.
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On 1/21/2020 at 5:22 PM, zibby43 said:
The fact that there is no decision yet signals to me that retirement is very, very much on the table.
What it tells me is that pro ballplayers have a code of etiquette not to make announcements during the playoffs that can wait for the offseason.
Tom Brady has Patriot fans on tenterhooks as well and I expect it's for the exact same reason. Right now the football world is focused on the 49ers and Chiefs and it's considered really bad form to drop news bombshells during that time that distract from those 2 teams, especially if it can wait a week or 2.
Also agents do't like to release news in that time window either because it's easier to get buried in Superbowl news which doesn't give their client the attention they fee they deserve
Within about 2 weeks of the end of the Superbowl a lot of metaphorical shoes are going to drop at once. Lots of players and teams are biding their time right now and things aren't getting out unless there's a leak in the FO or agency in question
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10 hours ago, Freenyfan102 said:
Ballard is a Polian clone and never going to spend the money on players we actually need.
I was on this bandwagon right at the deadline because we were in a playoff position and didn't make a move to upgrade the team. As I watched the wheels fall off though I had to concede that not making a move was the correct decision. We had too many holes in too many places to think a deadline move would have saved the team.
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14 hours ago, hambone35 said:
We are going into 3rd year with Reich, and Ballard together, SF has done it they wasn’t afraid to get free agents etc... So where do you believe we will be? No reason we should not be there!
We didn't suck bad enough to get where they are in the way they did it. We've managed to not suck because Ballard has a knack for finding value in the mid levels of the talent pool. He's done a really good job of patching that roster together and instead of suck-for-Bosa, we were competing for the playoffs last year and had a fighting chance this year, even without our quitterback, before the wheels fell off.
Bottom line, no, we won't do a 3 year turnaround the way the 49ers did because that involved a level of terrible play that nobody wants to see in Indy. People are upset about 7-9, imagine 3-13.
That said, I trust Ballard to make adjustments and slow gradual improvements to the roster over the years.
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5 hours ago, cdgacoltsfan said:
Are we still in the proverbial never ending 3 year rebuild?
No, and and we're only going into year 3 of that 3 year rebuild.
So far during our "rebuild" we had a year where we made the playoffs and won a game and a lost year where we were in the #2 seed when the wheels fell off. For most teams, that's what they look like when they're trying to contend. We're "rebuilding" and getting these results, I'd call that pretty good.
Still think that this team as built could have made the playoffs if our WR unit didn't get absolutely wrecked with injuries.
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We actually don't. Jack Doyle is easy to underestimate, he's a do-it-all type TE who's got very clutch hands.
We could get away with using him as a TE1 if we had a good run blocker as TE2. Ideally I would like to upgrade at TE if possible, but it's not a break-the-bank kind of deal IMHO
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15 hours ago, Thunderbolt said:
I would still take a QB at 13, we have two picks in the 2nd, they'll have solid DL still available to pick.
I would take a QB in the second. We aren't as desperate to upgrade at QB as people think we are, and nothing we're likely to be able to acquire in the draft is going to be an immediate upgrade anyway.
Pick up a guy who can understudy for a year and be productive in 2021. It's what's going to wind up happening anyway IMHO.
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2 hours ago, ColtJax said:
And wants to keep playing football. Rumor is that Tampa may be interested and that Winston may be up for grabs. I know he can be a turn over machine, but I would love to see the shoe on his helmet.
No interest in Winston. Winston is even more flawed than Brissett, who at least minimizes turnovers
Save your coaching points for getting Brissett to be a bit less risk averse. I'm guessing it's going to be easier to get a cautious QB like Brissett to open up more, than it is for a guy like Winston to stop throwing 50 50 balls
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51 minutes ago, CR91 said:
If you really think that low of Andrew then you're the one in denial. I'm not turning this into a Luck thread. Good day sir
Facts are facts. Andrew Luck is one of the most exciting failures we've ever had
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Reminder: We beat the Chiefs this year.
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But muh narratives