Lennon1940
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6 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:
Hasn’t worked for Gil Hodges
He has 300+ HRs as a player and a WS with the Miracle Mets as a manager
Hodges doesn't have near the counting stats required for a 1st baseman to get into the HOF and he doesn't have nearly enough career WAR for the modern sabermetric types to vote him in either. He's never getting in.
He's Hall of Very Good imo.
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Just now, PrincetonTiger said:
He should be in but the problem is that when he was a prime candidate he was not allowed on the ballot and now many of the voters didn’t get to see him
I am 41 and only got to see him at the end of his career and I know him more for his downfall
He'll get in once he's dead.
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28 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Cooperstown is an entirely different debate. The best hitter all time isn't in
The best hitter of all time?????????????
Pete Rose has 67 more hits than Ty Cobb....and it took him 2,614 more AB's to get it.
Rose is a freaking legend and should be in the HOF but he is far, far, far away from being the best hitter of all time. His lifetime BA was .303
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1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:
I gotta give you and East Street a lot of credit. You've been proven wrong, and yet, here you are, still trying to show you're the smartest guys in the room. Even when it's obvious that you're not. Good for you.
But one of the smartest, most respected front offices disagrees with you.
One of the smartest, most respectd coaching staffs disagrees wtih you.
Sorry. But the ship sailed on this. The votes are in and tabulated. You two lost and you lost HUGE!!
If figuring out who was going to be a good QB or a bad QB was as easy as you're trying to make it out to be, then you'd be a General Manager right now. And in case you haven't noticed........
So, you keep posting. You keep telling all of us that you're right and Chris Ballard is wrong. You keep telling us that you're right and Frank Reich is wrong. You remind me of the Knight in the Monte Python movie... you've got your arms and legs cut off, and you keep asking for more! Good luck with that....
Cool. Take a victory lap while our team is stuck with Jacoby Brissett yet again. Pop the champagne for 8-8.
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Just now, jvan1973 said:
And you do the same thinking every team is clamoring for Chad. Jacoby is better. The coaches agree
We're stuck with a more mediocre David Gerrard. Yay for us.
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1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:
If he clears waivers I will pass out from laughing
The glee you get while facing a future of mediocrity is beyond me. But hey, keep thinking JB is going to suddenly be a great QB.
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1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:
For the record JMV said a source told him they believe Kelly will have no problem clearing waivers.
Kelly will probably say no thanks so he can go ready for the epic battles he's gonna have against Johnny Football in the XFL.
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30 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Can you think of a successfull qb drafted in the 7th round with multiple arrests?
Can you think of a successful QB whose passer rating was never higher than 50th in college?
Wilson - 1st (set the NCAA record)
Mayfield - 1st
Rivers - 1st
Mariotta - 1st
Winston - 1st
Newton - 2nd
Murray - 2nd
Rivers - 1st
Dalton - 5th
Big Ben - 2nd
Rodgers - 8th
Goff - 9th
Darnold - 9th
Trubisky - 11th
Watson - 12th
Mahomes - 12th
Prescott - 14th
Carr - 15th
Stafford 15th
Eli - 17th
Brady - 17th
Brees - 18th
Cousins - 18th
Jackson - 25th
Ryan - 36th
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Brissett - 61st
(Kelly was 13th fwiw)
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8 minutes ago, BlueCollarColts said:
Why do people act like Kelly is some stud at backup QB? The guy hasn’t taken one snap during the regular season.
Must not have watched any preseason games. Dude can run an offense. I don’t care if it was against 3rd or 4th stringers, it ran a hell of a lot more fluidly than Brissett would have done against those same defenses.
Meanwhile we sit here in the abyss of mediocre QB hell. Brissett will never suck enough to lose his job but will never be good enough to win a playoff game.
Kelly will get his chance eventually and he’s going to ball out because that’s what he does everywhere he’s ever been on the field. When that happens we’ll probably still be sitting here trying to convince ourselves that we’re fine with JB throwing 175 yards a game.
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6 minutes ago, cjrulli said:
Have you guys seen some of the backup's playing in recent games in this league? Not many of them look as athletic or accurate as CK.
Correct. He doesn’t look like a backup when he plays. He’s the real deal and assuming he stays clean off the field he’s going to be a stud with some team. Just hope it’s with us.
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1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:
He signed a 1 year minimum contract . If there were other teams in the mix, it seems he would have been paid more
And not a bit of that had to do with lack of talent but rather his baggage.
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24 minutes ago, IinD said:
And the other teams were like.. Who??? You want what for him?
And Ballard replied: Don't you read the Colts forum? This guy's a star in the making.. Lol
I’m pretty sure that every team is aware of a guy who put up the 3rd most total yards in a single season in SEC history and a guy who has the highest score every recorded by SportsScience, beating out scores by guys like Brees, Mahomes, Mayfield, and Goff.
They know who he is.
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10 minutes ago, BeanDiasucci said:
This is an unusual situation. A 25-year-old who seems to have the talent to get the job done, but because of a history of getting in trouble that has repeatedly delayed his progress through college and the start of this pro career doesn't yet have any pass attempts in an NFL regulation game. Can you think of any quarterback who at age 25 didn't have a single NFL pass attempt, yet went on to a successful career?
Really speaks to the talent level he has that he isn’t gearing up for the XFL right now.
He just looks like an NFL starting QB. He has that, dare I say, swag about him and has that sort of quick twitch athleticism and rifle arm that you traditionally see with NFL starters. It’s a look that sets them apart from backups. An “it” factor. He has it. Watch him lead a scoring drive and it’s obvious.
That’s why I’ve been intrigued by him since the first time I saw him in the first preseason game. I’d puke if he goes elsewhere and becomes a stud and we’re stuck with an average game manager.
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1 hour ago, Imgrandojji said:
The numbers don't lie man. At a certain point potential goes out the window and the numbers show what you really are.
Darnold still has time to turn his career around once he gets healthy. At least as long as Geno Smith got. But JB7 was always considered a high-floor player and unless Darnold makes some progress towards reaching his ceiling, a high floor QB like Brissett is going to compare favorably to more high-ceiling QBs who haven't come close to reaching their potential yet.
And it bears repeating -- the timing of this recent illness is very bad news for Darnold and could set back his development by as much as a year. Precious time in a sports market that demands quick results.
If Brissett had a similar injury or illness his chances of success would drop even further than Darnold's, it might even end his career as a starter. I don't think Darnold's in that much trouble -- yet. But his health is doing him no favors.
You’re acting like JB has ever actually earned a starting spot. Darnold at least earned his spot. The only thing JB has ever accomplished in the NFL is being a second string QB who has twice been in the right place at the right time.
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13 minutes ago, Anonymous said:
He’s not gonna have much trade value, he’s had trouble with the law dating back to his high school years that haven’t gone away.
Its only a matter of time of time before he gets in trouble again.
Trouble with the law going back to high school? He’s been arrested twice. Once for getting in a bar fight when he was 21 and then the walking into the wrong home crap in Denver.
Neither of which were felonious such as things done by Cam Newton or Jameis Winston (*cough*FSUcoverup*cough*)
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Just now, jvan1973 said:
Front offices know he isn't worth the effort
And that’ll still be your take if the Colts add him to the 53?
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9 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
If he was so amazing, the colts wouldn't have him.
lol, as if that has anything to do with his actual talent as opposed to his off the field issues.
honest to god, if you think Brissett would rack up nearly 800 yards and 91 points in two games against Nick Saban defenses*, I’ve got a bridge for you to buy. Brissett didn’t even put up 200 yards a game against teams like Old Dominion or Troy.
Kelly is much, much more talented of a QB than Brissett. He was literally the most accurate QB that Sports Science ever tested. That includes Brees, Mahomes, Big Ben, Mayfield. Polian said he was the most talented QB of his entire draft class.
”Swag” is just an untrustworthy dope. That’s why no one wanted him.
*the only other QB to EVER have over 750 yards in 2 games against Saban was Drew Brees
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7 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:
When Brissett throws for 150 & 3TDs, & Colts RBs tally up 200 yards rushing: "We need to start Chad Kelly."
Only 5 teams had fewer yards than we did.
The offense would be a hell of alot better with a more effective QB. JB isn’t the answer. Great dude. Great teammate. Great leader. Average to below average QB.
We aren’t winning a playoff game with JB.
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27 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Did Andy Dalton's 311 yards inspire you? How about Murray's 350 yards?
Probably would have kept us from having to depend on a 4th and 1 conversion to win the game.
Imagine if we had a QB capable of those sort of numbers to accompany our defense.
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Just now, Chloe6124 said:
This is a dumb argument. Sometimes a QB game is more suited to the pros then college. You also have to look at system he was in.
Its way to early to make any conclusions on how good or bad he might be.
I didn't say it was dispositive of anything, just saying I don't think he has that sort of arm talent to get 300 yards in the air.
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5 hours ago, aaron11 said:
that was a different era, especially for brady. 300 yards wasnt as common back then
thats a good point about wilson, if we gave JB a hof running back and the best defense in the league by far id believe he could win a super bowl then.
Well at least Wilson did it in college routinely.
JB only threw for 300 yards ONCE in college. Wilson did it 14 times.
I honestly just don't think he has the arm talent to do it. Comparing college to NFL is apples to oranges mostly, but if he couldn't do it in college what makes us think he has it in him to do it at this level?
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1 minute ago, MB-ColtsFan said:
Stephen Morris
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12 minutes ago, IinD said:
The savior... Lol
Those 146 passing yards really inspired me yesterday.
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1 hour ago, MB-ColtsFan said:
You do realize that Kelly didn't play against starters, right? So, how do you make that evaluation?
Well you can't make the evaluation as far as playing against NFL starters since one has and one hasn't. But if you're just looking at talent, I think that's measurable when you compare their college careers. Kelly was twice as good as JB was in college against much better competition. If we're talking about outright talent, I think Kelly wins. He put up 4,000 yards passing and 500 yards rushing in the SEC. That's obscene. If we're talking about brains and character, it's clearly JB, which is why JB is in his spot and Kelly isn't.
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Chad Kelly decision today?
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Really? Prison on a misdemeanor charge?