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4 hours ago, Flash7 said:
Here is what I wrote in another thread and it would apply here as well:
I understand your point, but let's look at this with the small sample we have. Here is Ballard's first draft:
Round 1 - Malik Hooker. A good guy to build around. Can be here for the long term.
Round 2 - Quincy Wilson - Looks promising but not sure yet. We'll have to wait and see.
Round 3 - Basham - I don't see him sticking past his rookie contract.
Round 4 - Banner - Gone.
Round 4 - Mack - I see a future in Indy, but here we are still looking for a RB to pair with him.
Round 5 - G. Steward - I don't see him lasting past his rookie contract.
Round 5 - N. Hairston - Good rookie. Someone to help with the rebuild.
Round 6 - Walker Jr. - has potential, but currently a back up and here we are looking for a off-ball LB. Need has not been met.
We can only build through the draft if we pick guys that we can build around. Looking at Ballard's first draft, taking this approach will take far too long. Of course, this is just a current assessment and is subject to change.
Grover Stewart will be a factor. He needs to develop techniques that’ll shed blocks more effectively but he has great potential. Basham was a disappointment but the dude also has major upside with a nice burst, he needs to find those techniques he used in college and be confident enough to use them in game
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10 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:
I'm sorry tmoney, none of that makes any sense. They can chip with a TE or RB on the left side so that is not a reason to move him to the right side. Additionally, because he is a bit slow footed, since most teams either move their speed rushers around or primarily play them on the offensive right side, he would face more speed at RT then he does at LT.
Also, I don't think his problem is he plays heavy with his kick step, he over extends with his kick step, which is why he is susceptible to the inside move.
Now as far as guard goes that is even worse. His strength is in his upper body, not his lower body so at guard he would get bull rushed a lot.
Lastly, AC is not as bad a LT as many make him out to be. His skills are not lessening, he has not gotten worse, the Colts blocking scheme is not good and the play calling does not help either, a lot of 7 step drops and 5 step drops from the gun put both tackles in a difficult spot.
No need to be sorry were debating opinions here! Its all good! If your sending chips left and right who the heck is running routes out here? If your chiping both sides you have no check down. Most teams move guys around, but they prefer to put them on the D right side O left side to get them on the QBs blind side(unless your QB is left handed). Yes hes over extends, but against certain opponents he almost has to so they don't take the edge from him being slow footed. You could be right about him being top heavy as far as his strength and that could be an issue, I'm under the impression that he's overall a pretty strong dude. I'm not calling the guy straight dog dodo, but I'm not satisfied with an average or good enough LT anymore. Yes the O scheme is terrible and it will be scraped and changed with the new OC we bring in next offseason but I just can't see how fans can defend this OL anymore. 40+ hits a year is not all on your OC. This OL is bottom 5 every year in pass blocking, this year is no different (28th via PFF). Also our run blocking as regressed this year as well. Its not good enough!
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51 minutes ago, Blueblazes said:
The O line has not improved to any great degree at all. If they don't "retool" we will totally miss Andrew Luck's best years, wasting them with an O line that anyone not partial totally recognizes is terrible at best and dangerous at worst for the QB. Honestly?
Couldn't agree more, and you have to think Ballard is fully aware of this. I know everyone wants go keep building that D and we will, but let's start by putting together an OL that's not bottom 5 in the league every year. Let's start by actually protecting our franchise QB that's already suffered more serious injuries then any QB should in their entire career.
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2 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:
Whaqt are his attributes that are best suited to RT or G?
His run blocking is up there with any T in the game IMO, his footwork is suspect for a blind side protector but moving him to RT allows us to chip with a TE or RB, he has issues with quick inside moves becuz he plays heavy on his kick step so moving to G would allow him to play more balanced, he's an okay athlete for a T but a really good one for a G, his length and footwork as well would be excellent for a G, IMO hes best moving foward and attacking instead of playing backwards and on his heels.
Issues he would have at G would be adjusting his leverage to get low instead of standing tall, getting comfortable being first to punch instead of waiting to counter, and just the bigger bodies he'd see.
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2 hours ago, a06cc said:
You need to rewatch the Rams and Cardinal game. AC was getting manhandled. I see it every game. I have a link I can send you in a DM to rewatch the games. Also yeah I do see what your saying somewhat about JM, but I’m the past 3 season he has played RT,LG and RG. So I think the switches has having to do with it. His spot should be at LG. That’s where he does his best.
You might be right about JM being best at LG, but I gotta think the biggest issue is he's knees man. Sad but probably true
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4 hours ago, akcolt said:
Clearly you.are mistaken Castonzo IS a LT and the reason is there are not 30 better LT's you may not find 20. It's a big assumption that Castonzo will be a top G or RT. What are you basing that on? Why would a position change help with the mental lapses? Is illegal motion less of a penalty if it's committed by a G? We have to have someone to upgrade LT before we consider any of it.
You act like finding a better player at LT is as easy as going out and getting one, Where? What LT are you eyeing in FA? How many LT's in this years draft are plug in upgrades? Philbin is transforming Clark as we speak? That may be your best bet. I am all for building the best OL possible with or without Castonzo. It's a little more complicated than I think Castonzo would be better at G.
How about an improvement that can be made now. Play George at ILB. He gets an opportunity to start vs the Cards. He delivers a solid game PFF graded him as the highest rated player in a Colts uniform that Sunday. He easily rated the best game turned by an ILB all season. So we park him on the bench.
As far as having someone to upgrade before, thats exactly what I mean and probably should have said that in my first post. I don't think AC is top 10, maybe top 16. I'm not talking about mental lapses becuz thats far from his only issue. Like o said before its not easy, but I'm watching tape on all the top LT prospects this year and I'm really liking a few. Trey Adams from Washington has drawn comparisons to Taylor Lewan. Mike McGlinchey if we decide to trade back, Connor Williams as well. This is the year of the T, I follow college Football a lot becuz of the lack of talent our team has. LeRaven has so much potential, has all the tools to be great, but sadly is mentally weak. Watching him in pre season you can tell he's playing scared, playing not to get beat. You gotta be a dog to be a good NFL OL, you have to have a winner mentality. His kick step was fluid as a rookie, this year he's been on his heals terrified of the inside move and he ends up getting blown by of the edge. I do understand moving in to G is not an easy move at all, but with ACs skill set and his veteran attitude he has a chance. I'm not even 100% sure he could but I'd be willing to find out.
As far as George you'll get no argument from me. Bostic is not playing well in the pass or run game. I'm Also looking at ILB in this draft coming up and the WLBs are looking nice. Also hoping Anthony Walker can make strides
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7 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:
He is a LT with RT feet Jeff Saturday's words not mine.
Thats a perfect way of describing him, Saturday would know
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7 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:
AC isn't a bad Left Tackle, he's just decent.
Ideally speaking I would want to draft a tackle highly, start him immediately at right tackle to give him some experience and then the year after that if he's doing well enough switch AC to RT.
Ultimately though we have so many needs on this team it's insane people are so upset about AC. He's decent but not great. Lots of other areas that need to be improved on more.
My biggest issue is that this OL straight up stinks, not specifically AC. I just want to optimize what we have with new talent. If we take a LT round 1, but through camp we decide he'd be better of starting his career on the R them I'm with you. But if he's a stud there's no need to wait
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7 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:
If Castanzo moves, it should be to RT, not guard.
I think Castanzo plays alot better with Mewhort next to him. Maybe RG is what we need the more and move Mewhort back to LG.
Do you think we bring Mewhort back tho? I think we try to upgrade to a less injury prone but high caliber G in FA. Thats just me tho
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8 hours ago, Stephen said:
Thats the thing. Say when we pick in the 1st round an elite rb is there. The pass rusher mlb and olineman are average. Do you reach for the position of need or draft the great player. Or do you pass on elite talent like the browns and trade back for addition picks. Browns passed on hooker for peppers and a te
Its looking like when we pick every prospect will be pretty special.
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9 hours ago, dgambill said:
Well if you want to have a great passing game you have to get the ball out quickly. KC has given up the second most sacks in the league....now granted they have the best running attack in the league so there are trade offs. We have given up quite a few sacks but can't run the ball effectively...so yes the line play needs to improve...but across the league OL play is in a sad shape in my opinion. Even Tom Brady has been sacked 13 times..only one less than our qbs and Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay has been sacked more than us. You don't think two teams whose qbs are the most valuable in the league don't want to protect them. I would love to find these great lineman but they are few and far between. The way you combat it isn't always by spending more dollars or higher draft picks...sometimes you have to change your offense around what you do well and what you don't. If that means shorter throws, quicker routes, more stacked wrs I'm not a coach but you got to get more creative to get the ball out faster. I'm all for investing in our qb but at some point the offense coordinator, coach, and yes the qb have to adjust with what we have and design an offense that works within the confines of our OL skillset. I don't think they are so awful that they are the worst or even close to the worst in the league. What happens is we get in behind the sticks in down and distance making our routes and play calls predictable as we too often see third and long. Combine that with the fact that teams are playing the run and don't respect our passing game (even with Brisset its obvious) they stack the line of scrimmage and play press coverage and your going to get an overwhelmed line. Luck can help with that...they will respect his ability to beat them deep and hurt them in the passing game. I also think Kelly will help sure up the middle of the line and who knows maybe slow down some blitzes and give help to our tackles as he can cover some one on ones. Again I'm going to just ask to see how it comes around with the additions of Luck and Kelly...but I do acknowledge your desire to improve the OL...it isn't a crazy one...it's very logical...but I think sadly its not something that can be done easily.
And I'm with you on making adjustments and hopefully getting a running game but it starts with the OL. It won't be easy but it can be done
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41 minutes ago, akcolt said:
C'mon Anthony Castonzo is a LT. He has been a LT since his sophomore season at BC. He's not moving to RT or G.
We would cut AC before he switched positions. LT's are not easy to find and there aren't 30 in the league better than AC. It's that simple.
He is an average LT that's ready to go every Sunday. That's not as easy to find as you think.
It doesn't matter what he's been, what he IS is a LT thats been declining steadily. What he IS is a LT whose best attributes are that of a RT or G. Why cut him and pay him half his salary? There aren't 30 LTs better in the league, but there's 30 better OLs then the Colts. Optimize the talent you have with new talent you bring in. If its so simple why is our Franchise QB not playing rn? I'm not satisfied with an average LT, might not be easy to find but who has more excuses to do w.e it takes to find one then us?? Nobody. Thanks for the input and bleed blue
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16 hours ago, Mister P said:
He needs to move to RT. He's too slow to protect the blind side.
His pass blocking is too inconsistent for the blind side. I like his running blocking a lot and that's why I brought up G.
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20 hours ago, a06cc said:
If we’d fix the right side of our line. Put JM right back at LG them watch ACastanzo improve. His problem isn’t speed rushers. It’s getting beat inside by getting over powered or a spin move inside. I’ve been saying for years that guy wasn’t good. I hate seeing these threads now because I brought these facts about him up 3-4 years ago. Then he started playing better once JM got here to cover up his mistakes
Well, the speed rush sets up both of those techniques but I get what your saying. I don't see him getting bull rushed or over powered much at all by anyone. He also struggles with athletic edges who can chop his hands and bend the corner( Chandler Jones killed him with it week 2). Jack had so much promise before the injuries man, it breaks my heart to say this but I don't think we bring him back. This knee injury has lasted 3 years now, they might not all be related but he's compensating for something. Its looking like a career thing, and he hasn't been the same player this year.
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19 hours ago, dgambill said:
Let's all just wait and see what the team looks like at full strength. Getting Kelly and Luck back might help quite a bit. Let the line settle down a bit. Also Jacoby holds onto the ball even longer than Andrew...so hopefully we see the ball get out quicker. The line is pretty inconsistent....but I think it can be serviceable once they play at full strength and everyone settle into their roles. I think Costanzo is a tackle...whether he ends up at right tackle down the line or stays at left he seems ideal size and feet to stay at tackle. He hasn't improved since his big contract which is kinda sad to see but he is more than serviceable compared to what else is out there around the league. I watched KC last night and even that line was getting mauled pretty good. Its just a common theme throughout the league...good tackles are hard to come by.
Fair enough, my thinking is more towards if we decide to add a stud T or Ts through the draft kick him in. He has pretty good feet for a T, but he'd have excellent length and feet for a G. I'm honestly tired of having a "serviceable" or "good enough" OL, which its really not. Clearly its not working, yes our QBs hold the ball so why not acomodate them instead of forcing them to change their style. KCs OL is ehhh, but they drafted their LT #1 overall and paid Schwartz hella money. We can't sit back watching Luck get killed and say, well he holds the ball too long, were decent enough up front. Let's at least do something. Thanks for the feedback my man
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21 hours ago, MB-ColtsFan said:
AC has his worse games against speed rushers. I think you just have to game plan against them. The best way to nullify a speed rusher is to use his speed against him. Screen and shovel passes to the left side will take him completely out of the game on those plays. Can't do that all game, but go to it until it doesn't work, right?
We should be helping AC with his weaknesses, but I don't think I have ever seen a shovel pass since Andrew's first game (which I believe was his first TD?). Andrew still has to learn how to *sell* a screen, and Chud doesn't seem to know how too call either of them.
Ultimately, we keep AC right where he is until we get the other aforementioned needs filled.
Just my opinion.
100% agree he's struggles against speed. Chud is just straight awful, id love to see all those things you mentioned incorporated in our O but he's just not a good enough OC to call them or call them at the right time. We should help AC, so pump him inside to where he doesn't have to deal with the freak athletes. We keep him where he's at for now, but if we take a T round 1 hypothetically then I say its worth a try. Thanks for the thoughts!
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21 hours ago, Surge89 said:
I'll just say if we are content with letting Luck throw bombs all day we are always going to have injury issues with him. And we've tried the heavily invested Offense before. And we only got one superbowl in return. I'd like to try something different this time around.
Not saying that, but 12 will go through all of his progression instead of throwing the ball away or checking it down. Our O scheme needs tweaks we need more quick hitters, but Lucks ganna Luck at the end of the day. I'd like to make another Superbowl run, with a healthy 12! Thanks for the feedback
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21 hours ago, throwing BBZ said:
I am no fan of this terribly mediocre guy. BUT, i can SPELL his _____ name.
IF, you need a yard, we have no history of running behind him to get it. So.... lol. Seeing him matched against stud run stuffing tackles... oh boy.
Yes, we have Kelly, who i would see best as a guard, and if he could get down to 330, Good at RT, as the only keepers. Haeg isn't a lost cause.
That is if you wanted to build a really good line. JMO of course.
But when do we run outside our tackles? Almost never, if you need a yard why would you run a stretch? I get you though and might seem far fetched but with his strength and proven run blocking track record I don't think its impossible. Kelly is a C to me, Good is okay bit I'd prefer him as depth, and Haeg had himself a terrible terrible game against Seattle. Your opinion is appreciated!
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7 minutes ago, Surge89 said:
Here is the counter argument. Luck is being paid as an elite QB and expected to play at that level no? Then he should be able to elevate the offensive unit around him. That makes an "average" line more than enough. And IMO this line is exactly that, Average. But if you give Luck a defense that allows him to score 20 a game and win, then you'll see Luck not taking so many hits trying to hit the home run every play.
Just a thought, but IMO if we land a stud ILB, CB and OLB in this next draft the NFL better watch out.
I can't argue your D only giving up 20 a game argument, I'll take that all day haha. But here's the counter right cross to your counter lead hook, as elite of a player 12 is his style of play and our O scheme demand time to make plays happen. As the elite player its easy to say, well why doesn't he just adjust to what he has, but its what he does its inbreaded in him. He's not Peyton or Tom, he's not going to dink and dunk you until your D slips up. He going to hold the ball and create time in or out the pocket like Big Ben or Montana. Look how great Ben has been since they invested in that OL and brought in a great OC like Tod Hailey. I'm not saying this D is good enough by any means, but all I'm saying is while we rebuild let's start with the part that keeps 12 off the turf and off the stretcher so he can actually be that elite player. ILB is a huge need as well, I really love the weak side LBs in this draft class. pass rushing still needs improvement, but Sheard and Simon are good and don't need immediate upgrading like the OL. And I'm actually loving how our 2 rookie CBs have played. Wilson had a solid game against Arizona just needs to stay healthy and Nate Hairston holy balls this kid is balling!! Top 10 nickel according to PFF through 4 weeks. Also Rashan Melvin having a career year makes me comfortable letting Davis walk and maybe drafting a CB later.
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13 minutes ago, TheRustonRifle#7 said:
Btw...I edited that post. He is signed through 2019 with cap savings of 5.2 mil next year and 8.25 mil in 2019.
Ahh so letting him go only to save 5 mil isn't totally worth it. I still say trail and error at G and if he doesn't work out save that 8.25 the year after. Thanks for the info and thoughts my man! Bleed blue
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1 minute ago, richard pallo said:
My thoughts exactly. It is a league wide problem. Even the top LT draft picks are no sure things. We are fortunate to have a top 15 LT. Many teams would love to have Costanzo as their starter. We need to address it in the draft for the future for sure but right now he's our guy and I'm glad he's our LT.
Ehhhh, a lot of teams are right there with us sure, but there's also a lot of teams with dam good OLs. No the top prospects are not always sure fire and I'm not saying let's reach on an unworthy LT but if he's the best available on Ballards board or tied with it you have to take him. AC being top 15 is debatable, but he has really strong strengths and really glaring weaknesses and that's not the sign of an elite LT. Our O scheme demands elite pass blocking Ts and that's a weakness of his. I just have to disagree with being satisfied with a good enough LT, the proof is in the pudding that it isn't working. Not all the blame is on him, but your blind side protector is suppose to be your most dominate pass blocker. He's a dominate run blocker
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7 minutes ago, TheRustonRifle#7 said:
His final year of his contract is next season....I don't know if he would sign a cheaper extension and accept a move? He might want to use next year as a catalyst for his next contract and moving to Guard would cost him cash on the next deal?
Either way, I agree that an upgrade is needed at LT. Hopefully Indy can address that this off-season?
Yes those added variables would make it interesting. Idk how many teams are breaking the bank for an average at best LT though. For a good G, he might be looking at the same pay day either way. But yes let's upgrade at both T positions and keep 12 out of the turf. Were a team with many needs, but were nothing without a 100% AL12.
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11 minutes ago, aaron11 said:
neither were caused by the oline
the kidney injury happened on a run, and the shoulder when luck made a tackle
But that's besides the point my man. No denying he gets hit 40+ times a year. But 2shay your technically right, even though the shoulder was already injured and the tackle made it flair up right?
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11 minutes ago, Everyone said:
He needs to stay put until a better option is available, he not an elite LT but he's at least top 15 in his position. O-line is a league wide problem.
Right I agree. I should've put if we draft a LT this year. I like the T prospects coming out this year. Well have a high pick as well so we can get at least 1, I hope 2 Ts.
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You can be disappointed by an injury but how does it discourage you? The man was tied for 1st in the league when he tore his ACL in the running for DROY even tho it was early. Improved his tackling and showed that beautiful range. Everything else is good but I gotta disagree with Hooker he showed future pro bowler