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18 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:
I’ve come to the conclusion that there is almost zero chance that Ballard comes out of this draft with a QB in the first 2 rounds. Here’s why:
-Ballard says the jury is still out on Brissett, but we all know that the verdict is in. The jury is never still out on elite QBs. And that’s what the Colts need. Ballard has already decided that he is going to upgrade Jacoby if the opportunity presents itself.
-He’s in prime QB drafting territory at 13 plus has additional ammo to move up. There are 4 QBs that experts have said are consensus 1st round picks. If you try and wait until next year you won’t have a shot at Lawrence and Fields unless you only win like 2-5 games. If not you end up having to trade a boatload of picks to move up
-Sticking with a mediocre QB for too long is how teams end up toiling away in obscurity for years. Ballard likely wants to find an answer quickly.
-I don’t think FA is an option. He’s a fan of building through the draft. Youth. He’s not bringing in a 37-40 year old for 2 years. Plus a veteran QB isn’t coming to sit on the bench. You’d have to move on from Brissett and I don’t see them doing that yet.
-More than enough info to suggest that he’s been looking at QBs for awhile now. It’s not smoke and mirrors.
-Brissett is not a fit for Reich’s offense. And we know Ballard takes scheme fit very seriously. He’s traded, released, and cut guys in the past for not fitting the scheme
- This team has playoff level talent. If he can add a QB now and let him sit, you can go into 2021 as a legit contender. And that seems to be his MO. Go into the season without glaring holes.
-Need an answer for Jacoby. It’s clear they don’t think much of Chad Kelly. So if Brissett starts to stink it up again, you need someone to come in and give you hope if you’re not eliminated from post season at that point
-It’s highly unlikely that Brissett will get better. He’s 27 and been in the league long enough to have developed. He’s hit his ceiling. You may win more games next season but not because Jacoby got better. He simply doesn’t elevate the team
To the bolded ... There is absolutely no way you can say this as fact. You actually, like myself, have not a clue what they think. What i see from this statement is a personal bias toward CK and nothing else.
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15 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
No college QB is elite until they actually play a game in the NFL. All we can do is predict.Bottom line this fanbase is spoiled with the number one pick for a QB twice. We are never going to get the top one or two QB. We don’t need a elite QB. Just a very good one. Then you never know what will happen after they start playing.
Can we offer you a dish of CK? You have described it to a tee!
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On 1/28/2020 at 7:50 PM, Chloe6124 said:
The downside is he would sign with another team. I just don’t see another team signing him though. I mean how quick would he get signed after FA starts. Clearly he would fit right into the offense. Signing rivers and drafting a QB would mean trading Jacoby and cutting hoyer.
Yea!!!!!!!!!!!! The bolded would be the best thing the Colts could do. Unfortunately, I think they hold on to at least one. How sad? SAD
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6 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:
First you should not presume to know what I want to see. I like Jacoby, I like Chad. My concerns for him don’t sit with his in field performance but solely with his off field issues. If he is handled correctly he could be a starter. If he is not handled correct he could Johnny Manziel. I completely agree with what they did this year. Let him show now he can stay out of trouble for an offseason then he can compete.
On the second point. I would agree with that. I believe Ballard may think Kelly is as talented as any QB he could get in this draft. I think he takes a Hurts or Gordon or McDonald in the middle rounds to compete this offseason and develop.
I'm sorry if you believe i presumed. Didn't intend for that. I guess it was because of your many posts trying to convince people JB needs more time and should be the QB. Again, sorry.
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6 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
I remember the press conference. Unless there is one I missed. A reporter asked why they kept Kelly on the 53. Then the reporter asked if he was afraid to lose him. All Reich said was yes.
Chloe, I distinctly remember FR saying the Colts are working with Chad. Teaching him the finer things of being an NFL QB. Don't remember which press conference.
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39 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
Reich never said anything like that about Kelly.
You are wrong my dear! He most certainly did! I don't know how to go back and find it but it was said by FR.
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1 hour ago, cdgacoltsfan said:
Chad will end up being a back up journeyman type QB bouncing from team to team which isn't a bad way to make a living.
I don't understand how you or anybody for that matter can state that with the authority you did.
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22 hours ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:
Can I ask a serious question. As someone that supports JB but is also slowly coming around to drafting a QB, why are we rooting against JB? Seems everyone is dead set that he will suck again next year. Odds are very likely that even if we draft a QB, JB is the starter next season because the rookie won’t be ready. Why not at least root for him to succeed. If we draft a QB, you get your possible future QB to develop. Why wouldn’t you want JB to do well so the Colts do well. Just curious.
Well for starters I'm not rooting against JB. I just don't see him as a good QB. The Colts are wasting time with him. Therefore, since you keep asking these (IF) questions, as you say, to help you understand, let me bring to your attention a couple of things. Back at the end of the regular season some were wanting Kelley to start at least one game. This question was brought up to FR at one of his after games press conferences. He said at that time Kelley would not play but the Colts will be working with him. Teaching him how to be a NFL QB. Now, couple that with CB saying what he said about Kelley in his talk with Dakich. I believe if you add this up, it will amount to seeing Kelley as the starting QB in the future. I know this is not what you and some others want to see but i believe your going to have to bite the bullet. I believe the Colts will draft a QB in this upcoming draft but i don't think it will be a high pick. The question remains, what will they do with JB. Personally, they need to unload him somehow but this is JMO. I have a gut feeling they will hold on to him which i think will be a mistake.
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8 hours ago, WoolMagnet said:
The “buzz” is from a few quarters of pre-season play. Literally, a FEW quarters.... key word being FEW. I can remember Painter having good pre-season play as well.
He got a shot here because of the Reich/Jim Kelly connection. The kid has skills, and good college numbers. However, 31 other teams could have grabbed him from our practice squad. There are obviously still red flags. If so, you CAN’T risk putting him in control of the team.
I think he’s being handled correctly. Low-risk, with potential as a good quality back-up or maybe even better.
Who doesn't have them. There's a lot of iffy in this post.
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10 hours ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:
Okay so let’s look at Ballards comments on Chad Kelly on Dakich:
Dakich: The fans really wanted Chad Kelly to get a shot. Is Kelly in any type of future plans?
Ballard: "Let me tell you this: he's got some natural playmaking to him. Here's my deal with Chad, because I heard the clamoring, too — my kids. I mean, they love Chad; they love Jacoby, and they love Chad. I mean, Chad had earned trust. I'm not talking about on the field — we had to trust him off the field. I mean, he had screwed up a few times to where, 'We're your last shot here, son. So you're we're gonna have some guidelines here about what you have to do, and you've gotta earn trust.' And first time we cut him, he had this look of, 'You're cutting me?' I'm like, 'Damn right I'm cuttin' you. And you're gonna go to the practice squad and you're gonna continue to work, you're gonna continue to do the things we're asking you to do.' Do I think he has a future in the league? Yes. Does he continue to have to earn trust each and every day? Yes."
First, so I have long felt that Kelly would not take JBs place this previous season and would gladly call out anyone who did. I feel like after hearing this, it confirmed what a lot of us thought, this year was about Kelly showing he could be a good teammate and stay in line. That was it. It was never about him actually seeing the field.
Second, I think this could also confirm that we might just be in for a draft of building D-line and getting weapons. Then taking a QB in the mid rounds, maybe 3-4 range. Why do I say that, when asked about Kelly, Ballard said he had a future in the league and was a natural playmaker. I could see Ballard believing he can roll with Brissett, Kelly and Rookie. Let them battle it out in training camp and see what happens. He could view Kelly as better than any other QB that would be available to us. Could all be conspiracy, but definitely now feel that a very least Kelly will be on this roster next year unless he gets in trouble this offseason.
What do y’all think?
guy on left No chance. Guy on right looks the part of NFL QB.
Finally we agree on something. Yes, IMO, this is what the Colts will likely do with the exception of keeping JB. They need to cut loose JB because it will most likely cause dissension in the ranks. Start clean and give him confidence that he is the guy. I believe JB to be a liability on this team going forward. Tough decisions have to be made. Just my opinion.
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Just now, lincolndefan said:
Well. believe this or not, i know some one who actually bought a home sight unseen not once but twice. Both out of the state they were currently residing in. How wild is that!!!!!!! I myself could not be so trusting.
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4 hours ago, JR Indy said:
Looking at the state of the team and the state of the fan base. This year is a draft the Colts can’t afford to get wrong.
I compare getting a QB (I hope they actually do) is like buying a house or a home.
you can get shoes online, clothes online, even furniture online. But when you are getting a house, a home. You go to walk through it. Look at inspection reports. Look at neighborhood it sits on just to name a few. Getting a QB you will personally check him out not one time, but many times. You bring other coaches and scouts to check him out. I hope this guy is the answer this draftWell. believe this or not, i know some one who actually bought a home sight unseen not once but twice. Both out of the state they were currently residing in. How wild this that!!!!!!! I myself could not be so trusting.
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4 hours ago, coltsfan40 said:
A 60 year colts fan ! Living in Maryland n catching he'll year in year out. I've stuck. I can't believe CB/FR would make that huge of mistake. It would devastate us even at 13 pick. DT Brown/ Kinlaw/Espenza lamb/ Juedy Riggs best corner other too be had .In 2nd or third. 3 of best ever came 2ND one drafted 19 the rd. One taken in 6th. This just my opinion. We have the money n while u can't sign every free agent . I say go get best pass richer available and up n coming DT .you live in win in the trenches take care of that first for most.
Coltsfan40 ... So glad to meet you! A man after my own heart! I also am a long time Colts fan residing in lower Delaware all my life very close to the Maryland line. I also stuck as you put it. Your post was difficult to read but i loved it. I at first thought the Colts should do whatever was necessary to get one of the top QB's in this years draft. Thus, my thought was you can't win consistently without one and since we don't have one lets get on with finding one. Well, i've been thinking lately maybe what you say might be the beat approach. I mean, we do have needs on d-line and possibly o-line among other needs. Therefore, i think we should draft a QB 2nd round at the earliest. Let him sit and develop. My feelings, which is not popular, is unload JB and keep Hoyer and make Kelley the starter and see what happens in 2020. If he works out we have options and if he doesn't work out we still have options. I know this is not popular but i think this is the smartest thing Ballard and Co. could do at this time. Anyway, keep rooting on the Colts and i will be right there rooting with you.
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20 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
If Herbert or Love is there at 13 and the colts pass for a DT and Love or Herbert go on and excel in the next year or two Ballard is going to look bad. I still think If he is sold on one of them you do everything to get them. QB is the number one priority if he is sold. You never risk losing a QB by waiting that you are sold on. Ballard might have a longer leash with the Luck retirement but failing to address QB will get him fired. Especially if Jacoby looks the same as last year and doesn’t improve. He might improve some with healthier and better weapons but he isn’t going to turn elite all of a sudden.
I believe we already have a better QB on the roster. Until they give him a chance no one really knows for sure, but he has a better college career than our current starter. Yeah i agree, he's been a hard head but anyone who has raised children to adult hood knows there's trails and tribulations involved. He's young and has to go through a maturation process. Maybe, he's to that point in his life, that it's happening. I believe he needs a chance to prove it.
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11 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
TJ Green was NOT Ballard’s mistake. He didn’t draft him. Experimenting with him at a new position was trying to make the best of a bad situation.
And I doubt Ballard would agree with your view of Lewis. I’m sorry CB didn’t consult you before drafting Tyquan.
Then you contradicted yourself as you like to do. Saying he learned from his mistakes pointing to Tell being taken in R5. But in the same paragraph you fail to note that Benagu was taken in R2. So Ballard drafted a project with a mid-2nd round puck. You only noted that they stopped the BB experiment early.
You're all over the map and don’t even know it.
Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! Lets all play nice! Remember, no bashing!
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10 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Deflect? Butt hurt? Nope. You’re wrong — again.
Chris Ballard was so horrified with Okereke in that one game that what did he do? He drafted him 89th overall. That’s how bad he was. If you had the call you would not have picked Okereke. You’d have remembered the one game.
You suffer from the same thing as many other draft lovers here suffer from. You see what a player IS. A true scout tries to see what a player CAN BE. Big, big difference.
As to Reich, now you’ve changed your story, as you typically do. You stated in several threads that Reich was a bad play caller in 2018. When I called you out and pressed you on it, all you could point to was the KC playoff game. That’s it. So today, insisting that you’re right about the KC game, but you don’t seem to be arguing for the whole 2018 season anymore. Which was your original argument. See? This is what you do.
As for Willis. I literally caught you in a lie. I have multiple times called you on it, including tonight. You’ve never once denied it. The typical thing most people do when called a liar is to deny it. You never have. Not once. I find that.... revealing.
You don’t like being told you’re wrong. Ever. That’s why we knock heads.
Whoa! Pot meet kettle!!!!!!!!!!!!
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7 hours ago, Flash7 said:
Honest question: what would the Titans season look like with Mariota at QB the entire season, and what would be people’s perception of Vrabel in that instance?
My guess is that the Titans wouldn’t have made the post season with Mariota at Qb and Vrabel would be feeling a little heat after missing the playoffs two years in a row.
The Colts did not have a Tannehill to bail them out. I think we have good coaching, good talent, but worse QB play currently. Reich is fine.
That was never proven.
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4 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I still want to draft a QB as well but I do believe if we had a defense like the Titans that JB could be a 10-6 QB. Our run game on offense is elite.
No don't think so. JB is not accurate enough and he panics to easily.
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On 1/3/2020 at 5:45 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Almost everyone in here seems to think everyone would be better than JB, that is the problem. That is false. If we drafted Donald Duck at this point, 80% of the forum would jump for joy. This team could've easily been 9-7 or 10-6 had it not been for injuries and a poor kicking game. If we just beat the Dolphins and the Jags we finish 9-7 and are the 6th seed.
We need an upgrade at QB but need to choose the right QB, not just anyone.
Here we go again! IF IF IF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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19 minutes ago, Coffeedrinker said:
Colts may or may not have won the game if JB had not been injured, but Hoyer actually came in and immediately threw a TD to Doyle. It was the next drive, that Hoyer drove the Colts downfield and in a position to go up double digits when he threw the pick 6.
A few things. Why is it that anyone that does not think JB is a good starting QB they are labeled a JB hater? Personally, I like JB a lot but I don't think he's a good QB. Additionally, JB lost as many games for the Colts as he won this year. The Denver play was the play of the year for him and that was great. But fumbling the ball away against Jax when the Colts were down by 4, is all on him.
So it's the fault of the rest of the team when the Colts lost? JB needs to be able to close out games as well. I was comparing some stats of all the AFC South QBs, Tannehill, Watson, JB and Minshew.
JB is the only QB in the AFC South to throw for fewer TDs in the 2nd half than the 1st half.
JB is the only QB in the AFC South to throw for fewer 1st downs in the 2nd half than he did in the 1st half.
JB and Minshew are the only QBs to have a worst completion percentage in the 2nd half
JB is the only QB in the AFC South whose completion percentage drops when the Colts are trailing vs when the game is tied (All QBs in the AFC south have their highest completion percentage when their team is winning). When comparing completion percentage when tied to completion percentage when trailing, tannehill's goes up almost 5 percent, Watson and Minshew goes up 2% and JBs drops 10%.
So, the times when you want a QB to perform at their best, in the 4th qtr or when the team is behind, is when JB plays his worst.
The man can't perform under pressure! I've said this before. The more pressure he puts on his self the worse he gets. Anybody can see this if only they would remove their JB rose colored glasses. Yet, I'm labeled as a JB hater. Um, hate goes both ways!!!!!
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17 hours ago, Dacoltsboi said:
To add on- Yes we finished 7-9 but we were literally 3 kicks and few plays away from a 10-6 season. WITH THIS ROSTER. With some still major holes that can be fixed. WITH JB's poor play in the second half.
If you noticed, the team got worse as the season went on. Other teams started figuring out how to play us. I'm not buying into this crap about injuries. We had players who could get the job done with the exception of the QB position. Please people stop using the what if this or if this happened things would have been different. Facts are the facts. We won 7 games. JB is a poor QB and as soon as people realize this the sooner we can start fixing it. Sorry, JB will never amount to much as a NFL QB. If the Colts go into next year with JB the starting QB then expect another boring year of JB football. I swear, reading some of these posts from the same posters who spew this excuse nonsense deserves JB. Lets get serious and try to fix this football team.
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On 1/2/2020 at 11:21 AM, Barry Sears said:
If we have no receivers to get open and catch the ball, then it doesn't matter who the QB is next year.
We need weapons for the QB to use. I gotta believe that a healthy JB with offensive weapons would look a lot different than what we saw the second half of the season.
We can draft a QB to groom for 2021, or maybe that guy is Kelly. We're not going to be in a position to draft a top QB, and there's no FA quarterbacks that will be a huge upgrade...most are on the downside of their careers.
No ... JB is who he is. It will look no different.
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10 minutes ago, ColtJax said:
Chad Kelly has been cut by 2 different teams and not claimed by the other 31 twice before. Why everyone thinks he's the answer is beyond me..
Well if you can't figure it out then alot of things are beyond you.
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On 1/4/2020 at 8:33 AM, ClaytonColt said:
It's probably not ideal but I wouldn't be against going down the route that the Titans did with Tannehill. Try to find a relatively low cost but previously highly rated QB who had problems with their previous teams.
It probably gives us more upside than an established/regressive vet and doesn't require the long term commitment.
Of course finding a future QB through the draft should be the primary option but just thinking of other ideas to give us potential improvement.
He's already on the roster. The name some are calling him is Swag.
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What would the Colts have to give up in a trade for Derek Carr?
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No, i totally disagree. Brissett lost the team. Or at least some of the team. He has to go and ASAP. Kelley was kept for a reason and it wasn't a favor. LOL