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5 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
@lincolndefanyou aren't laughing now are you
, after 1 game you were walking all high and mighty, what happened last night?
Your a funny man 2006Coltsbestever!
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18 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
There are several in here that love Levis, if we draft him I hope he smears it in my face and plays great. I was wrong about Herbert, I though Herbert would be average at best. He is solid good, still hasn't won anything though. I was right about guys like Mayfield, Darnold, and Wentz though when they got drafted high. I said they would all stink, pretty much on the ol' nail factor, I nailed those. I also said that Tua would have problems staying healthy, nailed that too. I don't think Willis will do much in Tennessee either. You can just tell sometimes when you have watched the game for years. The QB from Georgia will be a backup in the pro's - heard it here 1st. I said AJ MCcarron would stink and some thought he would be a great pro. He had a pretty GF that was about it
Please don't throw your arm out patting yourself on the back! Also, might want to purchase some good ointment for that back! LOL
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5 minutes ago, EastStreet said:
If Ballard should have kicked himself for anything last year, it's for not addressing DT IMO.
That too!!!!!!!!!!!
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8 hours ago, EastStreet said:
If he's healthy, and at least 90% speed, I think he'd be in the mix immediately, and more than just depth. Willis is great in the box, but bad in coverage. I could see an immediate time share were Berry takes passing downs plus 3 saftey sets, and Willis plays on running downs and 3 safety sets. Similar to what they did with Willis and Geathers, but heavier use than Geathers. Berry has also played both FS and SS, although he settled in mostly at SS. Not sure his body would stand up to all SS work, especially in the box.
We averaged 2.3 Ss on the field at any time, so 30% of the time we have 3 safeties out there at once. Geathers would be the big loser in that scenario.
As FYI,
Out of 1037 snaps on D
CG (SS) 537
KW (SS) 631
GO (FS) 288
MH (FS) 796
RM (FS) 134
Note - when Geathers was healthy, he typically had more sanps than Willis, even late in the year.
I think this signing, if it happens, goes with the narrative of Ballard kicking himself last year for letting vets go to soon. Leadership for the young players.
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20 hours ago, DaColts85 said:
Based on a player who is behind another and remained a backup when JB was hurt.
Sir! With all do respect! I believe your misreading the tea leaves. You and the others dislike for Kelly is asinine. You pick and choose what you want to listen to and disregard the things that doesn't suit your taste. I believe you and others are going to be very disappointed. I believe Kelly is in the Colts future plans as long as he stays out of trouble and works hard and proves he belongs. If he doesn't then i believe he will be gone. The kid has some upside which can't be denied. Maybe you and the others need to learn how to forgive and accept. Kelly could become very good for this team. However, you and others want to disregard Kelly and never give the kid a chance! Pitiful!!! Very pitiful!!!
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20 hours ago, DaColts85 said:
So Reich didn’t play him when JB was hurt because he wasn’t mature enough? No it’s because he was the backup. The fans will get there wish to see Kelly in Pre-season and that’s about it. If he does well (and I hope he does) then maybe he becomes the 2nd string but I assure you he is not your franchise or starter next year.
And you know this based on?????
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1 hour ago, Indeee said:
No, not at all. Rivers in my mind might be good for a couple more wins, so basically anywhere between 8-8 - 10-6. So it makes no sense for him to be here. Listening to most here about how the season was last year, where we should have really been the same record as I just posted would take place with Rivers, then why do you need Rivers when we can get those results with JB? If Rivers can't win you a SB, there is no reason for him to come here, NONE.
I disagree ... What was alarming to me was the worse JB got, the team also got worse. What i mean by that is JB lost the team. Therefore, those wins you speak of are long gone with JB. This team needs swagger or confidence if you will to win consistently. That was lost last year. Maybe Rivers can instill confidence back to the team, i don't know, but JB or Hoyer will not. They both have to go and should of been gone by now. I have my doubts the Colts can win the SB regardless what they do this off season.
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10 hours ago, Imgrandojji said:
Rivers will not give us instant playoffs. Phillip Rivers has always been talented, but somehow substantially less than the sum pf his parts.
I'm not against a JB trade, but not if the guy you're bringing in is Phillip Rivers. At this point in Rivers' career it would more or less be rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, and probably paying handsomely for the privilege.
Besides, just a reminder here, the noise against Brissett is coming entirely from outside the organization. There's still no evidence that the people inside the organization are prepared to do anything with Brissett. And one thing we know about Ballard is that he won't make moves just for the sake of having made a move.
Most likely scenario is still "Brissett starts the season with a new high round draft pick as his understudy." If I had to lay out money, that's where I'd put it at the moment. We'll see.
You should start looking where your local bread line may be. You might need it.
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1 minute ago, CheezyColt said:
Yep, you totally captured the essence of my post. Good job!
Well, how about taking the good job and placing it near the cold heart. I think it would be better understood.
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1 hour ago, CheezyColt said:
Eh, I don't feel there was any CK "hate" before the "lovers" started flooding every topic with pLaY cHaD kElLy - hez teh best!!1! SEC stats!! It has gotten a little extreme in both sides now, though.
It seems like most here would be ok if Chad got a shot and especially if he did well. I don't think most here would be ok if we pinned the entire direction of the franchise on the idea of Chad Kelly. I think it's a situation if keeping him on the roster and if he gets a shot due to injury or simply blowing away the competition in training camp, great. But don't have your entire offseason hinging on the hopes that a proven knucklehead stops being a knucklehead.
O.K., you have me convinced. Let's hang him. After that off with his head! I mean he's a proven knucklehead and he will always be a knucklehead! There's no forgiveness for being a knucklehead. Now if he was a druggie or a wife beater, well, let's kiss their hiney or overlook it because they made a mistake and need another chance. It's disgusting!!!!!!!!
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2 hours ago, NannyMcafee said:
This was my response to someone who questioned my term "bum"...
I'm all for keeping CK and seeing if he has for sure learned from his past. I wasnt the guy who would get into legal trouble not that I didnt have my fair share of chances. I have been fortunate to have friends around me who weren't troublesome. I also am not related to anyone who is or was famous at any point, so I didnt have that chip on my shoulder to deal with.
But there are also a lot of guys who don't learn from their mistakes. They continue to go down the horrible path that their younger self chose. And as of right now, I dont completely believe that he has chosen another path. Who is Chad Kelly? That's all km saying. I want to find out. I'm not out to get him or anythi
Fair enough.
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1 hour ago, Barry Sears said:
Oh boy!!! Another QB thread!
Props to the original post and he made a very good point, then it turned into a JB or no JB thread again.
Point is, we have 3 very good people making the decision on what to do, so I trust they'll do the right thing.
Why complain? Don't read it or move on!
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3 hours ago, Imgrandojji said:
History disagrees with you. Most of the greats sat for a year or 2 behind another QB. Brady behind Blesdoe, Rodgers behind Favre, Mahomes behind Smith, etc.
When you throw a rookie right into the fire on week 1 day one that's a tough emotional hurdle to clear. More than 1 promising QB has been destroyed that way. Some do fine of course, but enough don't that you have to consider whether it's worth the risk, especially when the risk is almost completely unnecessary, all you have to do to avoid being forced into that risk is NOT get rid of your incumbent starter
Sorry, i didn't explain properly. I mean JB should not start. In fact, i believe he shouldn't be on the team next season.
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2 minutes ago, Hammer said:
"Who says?"...I believe I just did.
Me too! LOL
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19 hours ago, NannyMcafee said:
I for one would love to see what he can do as starter. The thing is, the LEADER of your team has to be of sound mind and CK has proven otherwise and therein lies his issues. He can be the greatest player in the world. Elite good. But if you're not right between the ears he could dismantle this entire team single handedly. Can you say with absolute confidence that hes not going to have a bad night one day and just go out on the town get drunk and maybe get into it with someone? That is far from getting drunk and jumping into some water in public. What if he has one really bad game? Or a string of bad games and all these critics come out and start calling him a bum? Can you say with absolute confidence that he wont react badly to criticism? I mean, he didnt have a lot of critisim early in life and he reacted badly to that. He has shown over several years that hes a bum. And only 1 year of being a good team mate. 1 year. I think the only hope CK has right now is to be a back up for the next 2 or 3 years. I for one, dont want to waste 2 years with CK just to see him completely fall apart later, when we need him most, when we could also find our QB of the future now, today, one who can be gaining some chemistry with this team, who has his head on straight.
What you imply could very happen but you or i won't know that till it happens. The kid was immature. I agree with that but let's not throw him out with the bath water. I know a lot of the posters on here are young which means they know everything or they don't know how to listen yet. Whew! i know that statement will go over like a lead balloon. LOL As a father who's raised children to adulthood i know they often make mistakes but you have to give them a chance to redeem themselves. If he screws up then cut him and move on. I'm not saying we can't find another QB this year and begin the grooming process.
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1 hour ago, Colt.45 said:
I suspect whichever QB gets drafted, he's going to sit behind Jacoby for a year.
Would be a great mistake! IMO
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3 minutes ago, Jdubu said:
I’ve been on the bandwagon of CK for awhile now. I’ve littered the forum with my reasons to think he is in the mix for that opportunity to be the guy this year. Most have called that crazy talk but I still plug away and am in his corner. I honestly believe that the only reason CB didn’t put CK in when he should have while JB was blowing chunks on his jersey was to test how will CK mental side of the game be handled when he knows he should be given a shot but is told he won’t be considered. I strong believe that in CB mind, if CK can handle that stress and disappointment without lashing out and behaving like a teenager who is entitled because of his last name, CB will feel comfortable with the belief that CK has been able to grow up beyond his high school and college and Denver antics. He may have finally got it. Now let’s see if he can perform on the field like we think he can understanding the mental side has been addressed and to the best of the teams ability, won’t become an issue if he finds success again.
Big Ben also had the maturity issues early on and he finally grew up and he has a shot at the HOF someday. Again, not calling CK a potential for HOF, rather comparing his abilities to the guys in the first round for this draft.
It's amazing how much we think alike. I think the Colts have to make common sense decisions. To me this is common sense. The only other thing i think would be a possibility is a trade for a veteran QB. I honestly believe, and this is not popular, that JB needs to be traded or released. Bite the bullet now instead of waiting. Make a fresh start at QB. I'm of an opinion, from experience, the more you stir it the more it stinks!
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4 minutes ago, Jdubu said:
I am a big fan of letting Kelly take the reigns over and not drafting a QB in the first couple rounds. Take one later to groom in parallel with CK just in case the head falls back into young and stupid Kelly. Going this route allows you to get a guy later with some upside and if Kelly works out and we also develop the second guy, we have trade material a few years in.
who Kelly reminds anyone is irrelevant imho because they all get put in different schemes, coaches and players around them. Troy Aikman in his prime would be a failure if he was behind the olines we trotted out 2012-2017 but he sure was a heck of a college talent.
I don’t look at Kelly as being a HOF guy we aren’t playing, however, I don’t think any of the guys coming out this year are either. I surmise that Chad Kelly has every bit of the skill sets that any of these guys we are looking at in round 1 this year. Why would we spend high draft capital on one when we have a guy who matches up equally as well with all of these kids potential and he is already on the team and understands the system well. CK May fail, but so may Love, Eason, Herbert, and Tua. I think it’s higher % that we go with Kelly than taking risk on a guy at 13 who could possibly flop. Losing out on that pick sets you back 3-5 years. Missing on CK sets you back one as you go after the next years QB class.
Thank You!!!!!!!!! Finally some common sense!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't have stated it any better!
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2 hours ago, DaveA1102 said:
All for opinions, but this is incorrect.
The level of backup QB's in the league is pretty rotten (Bortles, Geno Smith, Glennon, Siemian all from 2019) and there is enough evidence to show that having a capable backup for 2/3 games can be invaluable for a team with playoff aspirations.
Brissett showed enough in the first half of the year to show he can play well, but the second half of the year showed he does not seem able to do it consistently at a starter level. I agree we need to move on but to say he is "useless even as a backup QB" is just not true when you look at context of his peers.
Your opinion but not mind. Again, settling for average. You always try to upgrade the talent even the back ups.
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4 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
So many fans that don't realize we have no control over what the team does.
LOL ... I knew you couldn't let it go.
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10 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
He just won 7 last season
Boy all boy isn't that something. Really, 7 whole games!!! Wow!!! To many posters are willing to settle for ... um ... Average!
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23 minutes ago, DaveA1102 said:
I am not sure how hard you tried there my friend!
Jacoby Brissett will remain in this league for a long time as, although he has his flaws, a good backup quarterback is an extremely valuable asset. Based on this season, I think it is fair to say he is not the future as our starter but he would easily be one of the best backups in the league on any team, and so he will make a small fortune off the abilities he has, which includes his stellar reputation in the locker room.
I'm not trying to knock him meaning as a person (Human being) only as a football QB. You can think what you like regarding him being a back up QB in this league for a long time. Myself, i think its a waste of money and teams can do better. IMO, his flaws are sustainable and there's enough tape on him to make him useless even as a back up QB.
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14 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Actually JB is a lot better than Pagel was (also a lot better than Painter and Tolzien) but he isn't near Manning's level or even on Luck's level. Pagel sucked. I do think we need an upgrade at QB but we just need to find the right one. If we draft a bust, it will set this franchise back even further. At least with JB we know 9 or 10 wins are possible if we have a healthy team and a solid run game.
Don't believe for a second JB can win you 9 or 10 games going forward. Maybe 4 if things are clicking. I mean, even a stopped clock is right twice a day! Look, JB doesn't have what it takes. He has to many flaws. Its been mentioned on this forum many times. The bottom line is, he needs to find some other employment. Something where he gets time to think things through and not have to make decisions under pressure. I'm trying not to knock him. A lot of people don't have certain traits to be good at their profession. Therefore, he needs to use his head and not his heart. The Colts need better!!!!!!!!!!!!
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22 hours ago, Two_pound said:
No, an average qb is way above the absolutely horrible qb we had last season, thus we would show a very huge improvement in performance and record. Not counting missed kicks how many points did Brissett leave on the field last season by missing wide open receivers and not seeing wide open guys who may have scored td's and instead we had to punt? I'm guessing 80-100 points, that doesn't sound like much, but in the nfl where most games are "one-score games"(8 points or less) that is a lot of points to miss out on. There a number of teams in the league that you can say need a better qb and we are one of them.
No, sadly you are wrong. Average is average! If you want play off games or super bowls you have to think higher. Yes, we had horrible QB play this past year but you have to get past mediocrity. This (what if) stuff is for the birds. Its old and getting boring. The Colts have to hit the reset button. Everybody needs to stop with the what ifs. Its history already!
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Well, maybe if the hall of fame WR read the play correctly the pass would not have been thrown out of bounds. Did that ever occur to you? I'm not trying to defend Levis but I'm sick of hearing about how bad a person he is. That's pure
nonsense! Levis is going to be a good QB in this league barring injury. I know you and others do not like it but you all are going to have to squeeze um tight and man up to reality!