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No, my friend. What fans will remember is that NE was too cheap to pay Welker $2 million dollars more. Players in the locker rooms notice which proven veterans this front office takes care of & which ones they don't. Yes, Talib is important, but so was Welker. He deserved too retire in NE & everybody knows it.
fans will remember the Pats were too cheap to pay...... Milloy, Branch, Givens, Law, Mcginnest, Seymour....... and Pats fans won't care as long as the team keeps winning. I wish we paid them all they all retired in the Pats uni. but thats why I'm a fan and BB makes the tough decisions and keeps winning
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There was an interesting article by a Boston writer I like, during part of which he speculated as to what may have happened if the Tuck Rule hadn't changed the outcome of the Snow Bowl...
http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2013/03/farewell_to_the_tuck_rule.html
Of course, there's that other what-if aspect, the ready-made, let's-kill-an-easy-four-hours-here sports radio topic: Would the Patriots' dynasty have existed had Coleman not made the call, after which the Patriots tied and eventually won the game in overtime? Or would there have been some sort of football butterfly effect, with a change in that one moment altering everything that came after?
I believe, without a doubt, that the Patriots still would have emerged as the team of the decade and won a Super Bowl or two, though I suppose you can't say without absolute certainty that they would have won in 2003-04. But remember, the dynasty didn't really take off until after the hiccup of a 2002 season, when the safety trio of Lawyer Milloy, Tebucky Jones, and Victor Green didn't quite thrive as planned and there were essential new arrivals (Deion Branch, David Givens) and requisite busts (Donald Hayes, the forefather of a long run of receivers who couldn't master the playbook).
The peak occurred as Brady kept becoming greater and greater and reinforcements such as Rodney Harrison and Corey Dillon arrived to create a truly great team. That 2003-04 dominance had little direct relation to the Patriots' good fortune one snowy night in January 2002.
Bill Belichick's brilliance was proven during the '01 season no matter whether it had ended against the Raiders or, as it turned out, they went on to become the most improbable Super Bowl champion ever with stirring victories over the cocky Steelers and even cockier Rams.
And Tom Brady still would have become Tom Brady -- knowing what we now know about his competitiveness and work ethic, the loss would have fueled him even more. The Snow Bowl is actually more relevant to Adam Vinatieri's legacy -- he should be the second kicker inducted into the Hall of Fame, and his tying and winning field goals in the Snow Bowl will be as much a part of his case as his two Super Bowl game-winners.
The one point he makes that I think is worth considering is that the 2002 team was a bit of a hiccup. They lost the division on a tie-breaker and missed the playoffs. It wasn't until they retooled in 2003 that they started to become dominant. In fact, I'm not sure there's been a better two-year stretch in my lifetime than the 2003-2004 Patriots. That was the team that won 21 straight from one season to the next and didn't lose a game for a year. Literally.
He's also dead-on in that if the Tuck Rule hadn't been called, it would have probably had a much greater impact on Adam Vinatieri's legacy than anyone else. The game-tying and game-winning kicks come off the board, as does his game-winner against the Rams.
Hard to say how things might've changed. Like Chad Finn asks, would it have been a football Butterfly Effect?
revising history based on the rule change is a net wash. On the play Brady is hit in the head which would now be a 15 yard penalty giving the Pats even better field position
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What are you talking about? Why would a HC who was a D-Coordinator his entire career call the offensive plays?
Bellichick was the offensive coordinator the year mcdaniels left. billy o'brien took over the role a year later
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Great players always want to make a play thats what makes them great sometimes it works sometimes like today it backfires
the problem is with 8 one and done's it seems to backfire more for him than others. the 8 one and dones are just impossible to ignore for a guy of his caliber
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lol why? He's put up great numbers. And he's winning.
21 TD's 18 INTs and qbr 75. Luck is having a solid rookie year and will be a very good qb in years to come. but i wouldnt say he got snubbed.
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I feel like we've been hearing about this "new generation" of QB's since the early 90's. Randall Cunningham to Vick and now to RG3. and every year its a QB who can throw from the pocket who wins the SB and has a long successful carreer. sure, the mobile qb can do well in the NFL but the pocket passer isn't going anywhere
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watching that game made me really miss romeo crennel. i know manning still had a decent game but you could tell he could not find a rythm against that D. every route was altered which made manning hesitate and look elsewhere. reminded me of the good old days here in NE
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Sims made a good point about this. when offenses use a lot of motion the snap is dicateded by the guy in motion getting to the right spot. defenses can pick up on that and if the motion is consistent its an easy tell
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Hey GoPats, VL, Flying Elvis, and all NE bloggers on this site...Was Bill Belichick exactly like this in Cleveland too? I'm curious.
I know that Bill is tight lipped and runs a bank vault door locker room meaning nothing gets out of the building like a CIA briefing at Langley, but does Bill ever joke around and crack a smile with the press ever? Even near Christmas?
I get it; it's part of his overall personality; very few people get to see the real Bill except for his son, his girlfriend, his QB, and his owner maybe.
Was Bill like as DC for the NY Giants under Bill Parcells too? Yes, I saw "BB A Football Life" on NFL Network too.
Bill does have a lighter side. he just doesnt show it around the beat writers who are asking the same moronic questions day in and day out. he'll talk peoples ears off when discussing the old days and former players. if you've seen sound FX on NFL Network you'll see he jokes with his players a lot. he also has a radio spot every week as well as a TV spot that he's very cordial with. he just has no use for the daily stupidness that goes on with the beat writers. he's not going to discuss anything about the game or opponent. he does not see how it helps his team win. as a fan i couldnt care any less what bill tells the media and fans.
I think he was more talkative in Cleveland and the media there fried him so i have a feeling that has something to do with him just not talking to them now
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I was thinking about Marvin on the opening drive when #88 caught the ball across the field, Marvin would have just kept sprinting and not let anyone get the ball from him!!! Absolute back breaker right off the bat with DT fumbling!!! It let the crowd back into the game and then the Pats played with a lead.
Makes me appreciate the fundamentals that Dungy preached.
didnt marvin cost the colts a playoff game against the chargers by fumbling?
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i assume this means you disagree? did you watch the game? any attempt down field was a balloon, no zip
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One thing I am happy about is that Peyton's throws seem to be getting more accurate and faster with each game and his durability in terms of taking hits seems fine to me. I know #18 is a perfectionist. I love that about him.
I thought manning looked very accurate and in control of that offense yesterday. what would worry me if i were a broncos fan was the fact his passes of more that 10 yards down field have nothing on them. they are balloons. he's lost A LOT of arm strength
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yah they could of put one of them on MNF and other on SNF, both have great meaning and would be nice to for all to see Manning against Brady with the former's new team . . . and it being the first one too . . . also, not sure if both teams will be playing each year like the colts/pats have done for 10 years . . . maybe this might one of a few meaning, hopefully there will be more . .
yah Unitas record was only of those things we thought would last more than two generations like Dimaggi hiting streak, Ted Williams 400 season, and more recent Yaz triple crown . . .
we are in a passing league but then again no one is guaranteed the record as Farve was the closest . .. altho i do remember Brees throwing a lot late in a game last year to secure a TD for the game . . .
I think it's really up to the networks. The NFL doesnt designate games. since it's an AFC game CBS had the rights so they'd have to give NBC the rights. i think there's a odd process that allows netwroks to choose the games. If NBC wanted to take this game for sunday night they'd have to give up rights to something else later on. of course it all comes down to business and not really whats best for the fan
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TRADE WINDS BLOWING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
who? what do you think?
sometimes I feel like Irsay is more of a fan than the owner
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He failed the physical, don't know exactly what happened that caused him to fail, but the Pats usually don't mess around with that kind of stuff.
i think they are saying "physical" but it's more likely he failed his conditioning run that all players have to pass before gettign on the field. the Pats consider the conditioning run as part of the physical. they usually gives guys a few shots at it but must have figured he was done
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coaching would mean a lot more hours for A LOT LESS PAY. i dont see manning as the kind of guy who will do anything for less pay
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sad obsession
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because when he's bad he's really bad and he goes into slumps that last for weeks at a time. guys like brees, brady, p. manning might mix in a clunker avery now and then and follow it up with a few weeks of 400 yds 3 TD games.
i also think eli is starting to get his credit as of late.
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great talent but unfortunately his legacy to me is defined by not showing up in big games. i mean literally not showing up. sitting on the sideline with his helemt on with a bruised knee during a playoff game while his QB was playing with a torn knee.
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BTW, where was the great Gronkowski during the Super Bowl?!?!
where was the great Vernon Davis in the SB?
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Davis is a LOT faster than Gronk, and Davis is also a LOT stronger than Gronk too, doing 10 more reps at 225 when measured before they were drafted. Davis is the better blocker too, I'm thinking you haven't watched Davis at all in his career lol.
and with the first pick of the 1995 NFL draft Tony Sullivan selects Mike Mamula. because his 40 time was better than anyone elses and he benches a wicked lot
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it took Polian that long to come to the conclusion the QB situation wasn't good? I see why he was fired. When Kerry Collins was named started I knew the colts QB situation was real bad.
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i realize the hometown fans are not going to look at things subjectively but the colts were 2-14 last year. no matter how good the draft went they are still rookies with a lot ot learn.
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andrew luck = captain caveman
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this is based on them playing catch in June right.