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  1. Piling on or not piling on.  Who cares?  Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if you can see a thread is slanting towards venting at a guy who is supposed to be a leader and you don't agree....then don't participate.  None of this is the end of the world.  And, I don't think anybody can come on here and argue that Cam was acting like a true leader and fine gentleman.  Let people say what they think...even defend him if they so choose.  But, you don't have to pick at the people venting or sharing their opinion.  Whatever side they are on. Just say I don't agree.  Or whatever.....

  2. 3 minutes ago, QwizBoy said:

    I suppose the General section needed a new whipping boy with RG sitting on the bench and the deflategate threads getting cracked down on lol. I still don't like it, but yeah, the nature of the offseason.

    It won't last.  But, several things have come out the last few days.  Something shiny will emerge and he will move to the back row.  No biggie.  

  3. 4 minutes ago, ÅÐØNϧ 1 said:

     

    Being a crybaby is thread worthy & like you said its the off season this is how it goes every year .

     

     

    Ugly shoes are too!  Nobody said he's an ax-murderer.  Just that he's a cry baby and needs to grow up.

  4. 11 hours ago, southwest1 said:

    You know what CBE? You do bring up a great point. Give credit & props to the team that won & how long does the losing SB QB have to remain on stage before he can exit the stage gracefully with no negative scrutiny? I've always wondered that. I'm not looking for a scientific study at all. But, just curious what peoples thoughts are on how long Cam should have stayed behind the microphone. 

     

    If Cam had just said "Sorry fellas & ladies of the media, I know you have deadlines to meet. I will give you all 10 minutes & then I have to go because I'm in a daze over what just happened & I can't really tell you why in the hades we lost other than Von Miller & Demarcus Ware. That Broncos defense was incredible too better than advertised. Film doesn't do them justice. Congrats Denver. You earned this Championship." 

     

    If Newton had said that or something similar, there would be no Cam controversy right now. 

     

    I know player contracts stipulate that players must make themselves available to the media according to CBA guidelines. I just wonder how detailed or vague player  commitments are when it comes to media obligations. That's all. I could look it up but I'm not in the mood right now. 

    What's up with you dude?  You chastised me yesterday for saying his behavior was unacceptable and he acted like a cry baby?  Did you run out of Cam Kool-Aid?

  5. 13 minutes ago, southwest1 said:

    It's commonly called "artistic license" or exaggerated embellishment to illustrate the point that someone's dislike of someone or their actions really doesn't justify the backlash Cam Newton is receiving. 

     

    A common literary tactic used to drive a larger symbolic point home. 

    No. Not an exaggeration. I think he acted like a 3 year old who got his toy taken away. I'm sorry you think life is unfair for Cam right now but I don't think he really cares. I think he will continue to live in his self-centered universe 

  6. 16 minutes ago, southwest1 said:

    Yes, it was just a football game that's true. But, it also was a life changing game for which ever QB won it, which turned out thankfully to be #18. I think we can all agree that Cam Newton's post game press conference was not his finest hour. For the record, I'm not defending Cam's decision to walk off the stage prematurely just highlighting that this poor decision shouldn't be elevated to moral outrage & a human tragedy that's all. 

     

    If you claim my perception of you regarding Cam Newton is wrong. So be it. However, why make such a big deal about Cam's immaturity then? It's a snapshot in time not a precursor to future press conference reactions. Maybe that's not the impression you intended to convey initially, but that's how I interpreted it. 

     

    "I will let Brent comment on this terribly long post when he gets back on." 

     

    I've always been longwinded. No argument there. I concede that point fully.

    The horse is officially glue. I commented on Cam's behavior and said he acted like a big baby. I think he was a bad example to young impressionable kids. And I think he embarrassed his fans. Never once did I call this a national tragedy. Good grief!

  7. 10 minutes ago, southwest1 said:

    Yes, it was just a football game that's true. But, it also was a life changing game for which ever QB won it, which turned out thankfully to be #18. I think we can all agree that Cam Newton's post game press conference was not his finest hour. For the record, I'm not defending Cam's decision to walk off the stage prematurely just highlighting that this poor decision shouldn't be elevated to moral outrage & a human tragedy that's all. 

     

    If you claim my perception of you regarding Cam Newton is wrong. So be it. However, why make such a big deal about Cam's immaturity then? It's a snapshot in time not a precursor to future press conference reactions. Maybe that's not the impression you intended to convey initially, but that's how I interpreted it. 

     

    "I will let Brent comment on this terribly long post when he gets back on." 

     

    I've always been longwinded. No argument there. I concede that point fully.

    Also, divorce is a life changing event. It's all in how you handle it. And if my son acted like Cam in the same situation, I would rip his hind end, tell him to grow up, and behave like a man. 

  8. 1 minute ago, southwest1 said:

    Yes, it was just a football game that's true. But, it also was a life changing game for which ever QB won it, which turned out thankfully to be #18. I think we can all agree that Cam Newton's post game press conference was not his finest hour. For the record, I'm not defending Cam's decision to walk off the stage prematurely just highlighting that this poor decision shouldn't be elevated to moral outrage & a human tragedy that's all. 

     

    If you claim my perception of you regarding Cam Newton is wrong. So be it. However, why make such a big deal about Cam's immaturity then? It's a snapshot in time not a precursor to future press conference reactions. Maybe that's not the impression you intended to convey initially, but that's how I interpreted it. 

     

    "I will let Brent comment on this terribly long post when he gets back on." 

     

    I've always been longwinded. No argument there. I concede that point fully.

    The horse is officially glue. I commented on Cam's behavior and said he acted like a big baby. I think he was a bad example to young impressionable kids. And I think he embarrassed his fans. Never once did I call this a national tragedy. Good grief!

  9. 12 minutes ago, southwest1 said:

     

     

    Let's discuss the matter a little further shall we. I got what your point was or what I thought you were driving at anyway. Here it is from my perspective & this is my perspective only so please don't perceive what I'm about to say as putting words in your mouth or taking what you said out of context.

     

    I think your comparison between your sons was meant to convey the idea that if your children were in Cam Newton's shoes & they had just lost the SB they would have sat behind that microphone & asked every reporters question about the loss no matter how painful it was. You don't care for what you perceive to be Cam Newton's flamboyant, celebratory demeanor very much & how when he falls flat on his face he refuses to pay the piper & take his lumps no matter how difficult this pill may be to ultimately swallow. Was Cam immature? Yes. Can he become a better player a better person able to cope with NFL failure in the future from this incident? Sure. 

     

    The reason why I responded to your posts in the matter in which I did was because I felt like you were letting your dislike, discomfort, & anger over how Cam handled himself at the post press conference blur your objective over how heinous Newton's immaturity really was, which in reality, wasn't as catastrophic as you left the misguided impression it actually was. And then you mentioned your son's unpleasant divorce. What's a divorce got to do with losing the SB? Okay, maybe you were trying to say that in the grand scheme of things with the money Cam is making he really has nothing to be distraught over. His father didn't just pass away, his mother was just diagnosed with Cancer etc. etc. 

     

    Your real bone of contention with me is 2 fold as I see it. 1. In your mind, I trivialized your opinion & 2. I said I was going to drop the divorce matter regarding your son & didn't. Do you have a right to express your opinion as you see fit? Sure you do & I have a right to disagree with your conclusion. Mentioning your son's divorce isn't really relevant to Cam's actions in the aftermath of losing the SB & by bringing up a topic which has no bearing on the subject being discussed, what you are really doing is making a mockery of the anguish feels over losing the SB thereby taking Newton's minor immaturity incident to a level of epic out rage that his temporary, bad behavior doesn't deserve. 

     

    What digs are you referring to Brent? I was not disrespectful to RG at all & you know this. Both you & RG have a right to strongly dislike Cam Newton just like I hate the Dallas Cowboys franchise & always will, but what neither of you seem to be grasping is this: Let's not make a brief act of immaturity on Cam's part negatively label his whole career. I just think that your resentment of Cam & his frequent showboating on the field after a touchdown is symbolically tainting your perception of Cam in an unflattering light that both of you are not seeing because you're too close to it & need some distance. 

     

    So RG didn't take issue with what I said just that I didn't drop it. Fair enough. I deserve that.

    "Oh...okay....thank you so much for cutting me some slack.  You're a giver!" Sarcasm isn't the best way to generate sympathy to your point of view. If you believe I unfairly or went after you with no mercy, I'm sorry but let's be honest here. You dislike Cam, enjoyed seeing him fall flat on his face, & your glad the Broncos won. 

     

    I'll say this again. Did I call you stupid? No. Did I criticize your parenting skills? No. I merely said that your son's divorce has no bearing on Cam's reaction to losing the SB. Clearly, SW1 is a despicable monster. Okay. Fine. If that makes you feel better, go ahead & vilify me or think unpleasant thoughts about. I won't lose any sleep over it. 

    I don't need your sympathy.  And, I'm a fairly sarcastic person.  You didn't see my point in that a boy going through a horrific life experience correlates.  But, I do see it as do others.  This was a football game.  An important one.  But, still a football game.   I'm not angry at Cam Newton and as I said, I never really had feelings towards him one way or the other.  Until he behaved this way.  I was partially for the Panthers because I am a huge fan of the Michael Oher story.  We have a son that we inherited much like Michael's situation.  So, I didn't really care how the game went one way or the other.  So, for you to say I was too close to it is completely wrong.  He acted like a big baby and I don't understand anyone trying to justify his behavior.  I will let Brent comment on this terribly long post when he gets back on.  Peace out....

  10. 2 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

    I'm not saying he couldn't have handled it better.  I do think he gets more criticism than other people to a harsher degree when he doesn't do anything any worse.  But I dont' think there can be any dispute that when a coach reacts this way or worse, hes' not viewed as immature.  If anything, coaches get a pass for it in a way that Cam never would.  

    I wouldn't give any coach a pass for acting that way.  Or any player.  The way somebody acts in a clutch situation like that says a lot about them.  I've never really cared about Newton either way.  But, after I saw post SB and then him justifying his actions....yuck!  Too many good guys to cheer for over buttheads like this.

  11. 2 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

    Guaranteed if the Colts had let go of Pagano and Grigson and we hired Jim Harbaugh and he pulled something like this, everyone would be praising him for his fiery demeanor.   Because that's what so many wanted from our next of a head coach of Pagano got canned.  Why is it that when a player acts this way, he's an immature little boy crying about a game.  But when a head coach does it, he's fiery and tenacious.  Then we follow that up by making memes and laughing at the replay's on ESPN/NFL Network, where it ultimately becomes a running joke years down the road?  It's hypocritical to say the least.

    He lost and acted like an immature baby.  I don't think a coach would be praised for acting like this.  I think you're way off base.  But, to each his own.  I can tell you, I know a lot of Panther fans that are very disappointed in this little boy.

  12. 20 minutes ago, Coffeedrinker said:

    Personally I think what Cam did was hilarious and it's no different than his celebrations and his temper tantrum in the end zone when the ref didn't throw a flag on a clean hit.

     

    And I don't think Cam will "learn from it" or grow because of it.  I think just the opposite in fact, I think this will have ruined him as a QB, he still has a lot of physical tools so he wills tick around for a while but he's going to become another Jake Cutler, Tony Romo type QB.  

     

    One thing I've learned in the military and years of coaching and playing is that you either know how to handle diversity or you don't.  And I'm talking about the true definition of diversity.. meaning a range of things, most people think diversity is just when something bad happens but that's not true, diversity applies to large swings, so when something bad happens as well as when something great happens.  And Cam has shown all year that he cannot handle diversity he could not handle it when things were going great and he could not handle it when things went poorly..  Now his teammates know that when the things have gone poorly and the chips are down that Cam will not stick his nose in there and try to make something happen.  Worse yet, deep down inside, Cam knows that now, as well.  Everybody talks about swagger, mojo, etc well Cam lost in that game and I don't think he will ever recover.

    GREAT POINTS!

  13. 1 hour ago, teganslaw said:

    Cam probably never realized how his actions would start such a heated debate. 

     

    Whether they like it or not, celebrities whether in sports or entertainment, are looked up by many as role models.One could argue that technically they aren't responsible for what others think, but it comes with the territory. Anyone who is in a high profile career has to be aware of their actions and act accordingly. 

     

    Thee has been mention of Cam Newton needing to grow up emotionally. He's been in the NFL several years now, and has a newborn son. It's about time he learned some maturity. He's a parent now and need to be more responsible.

    Amen!

  14. 14 hours ago, southwest1 said:

    Okay. I don't understand what your son's divorce has to do with Cam Newton's press conference. But I will let that go. I hope your son lands on his feet & feels better soon. Take Care RG. 

     

    I'm not here to change your mind on Cam. Just give you my perspective on Newton's loss. That's all you are free to disagree with me of course. That's perfectly fine. 

    Okay. I don't understand what your son's divorce has to do with Cam Newton's press conference. But I will let that go.....really?

     

    You'll let that go?  This is what I take issue with.  You saying my post had nothing to do with what was being discussed, but you will let it go?  Oh...okay....thank you so much for cutting me some slack.  You're a giver!

     

    How did you miss my point when others clearly saw it?

     

    She was highlighting how a 12 year old, despite having faced difficulties that would rock many, is able to act in a mature way. She spoke using a life experience which is something we all do as our perspectives are shaped by life's experiences.

     

    Not sure how you missed it.....but whatever!  

  15. 1 minute ago, Nadine said:

    When I saw that happen it made me want to stop watching the game.

    He assaulted another player on National TV and we all just kept watching

    Made me question myself

     

    I don't understand why there is not a rule right now to remove someone from the game for doing that.

    I felt the exact same way.  I was shocked!

  16. 10 hours ago, Buck Showalter said:

    For as rough as cam's pout-fest was, I'm surprised more isn't being made of talib's antics as well...

    Definitely seems to be a double standard between QBs & other positions...

    At least cam's just a gloatful winner/pouty-faced loser, & not a complete thug/punk like talib... 

    Talib was a TOTAL punk in that game!

  17. 8 hours ago, southwest1 said:

    No. just no what. My view of what was said in our previous exchanges? 

     

    Have I claimed your POV is stupid or without merit? Have I said your thought process is fatally flawed? Okay, perhaps I misconstrued what you said or read something into what you said that you did not mean. Have I referred to your children in a derogatory fashion in any way, shape, or form? No. Have I ever conveyed the false impression that you are not an intelligent individual? No. You're 1 of the sharpest minds on here. 

    You were incredibly disrespectful basically telling me I shouldn't air my personal laundry on this site. I was making a point comparing a 12 year old boy dealing with hard life issues acting better than a grown man over a game. Others saw my point and you completely missed it. So no just no meant I don't want to respond to you after you said something so rude and off the mark. 

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