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    2016 NFL Draft Thread

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    1 minute ago, 21isSuperman said:

     

     

    There are still a lot of good players available.  With this trade, we can still get a very good talent, and we add a couple more picks to our collection.  Regardless of what the trade pick chart (which is highly arbitrary and subjective) says, if you can still get the guy you want and and more picks, it's a good trade for you

    I hope so!

    Grigsons draft strategy (BPA)

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    2 minutes ago, krunk said:

     

    Surely he does but how often do you think that is going to fall outside of the information his scouts gathered?  Not a whole lot. 

    probably not. I just hope he makes some good decisions on the draft days. That is all I'm trying to say, There are some positions that are hurting more that others. I just don't want to see more others.

    Grigsons draft strategy (BPA)

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    2 minutes ago, krunk said:

    The article did not say drafting for needs is weak.  He said it's weak to pick need players when you have top level talent available on the board. It defies the scouting process.  That's a totally different thing than saying "Drafting for needs is weak".  Grigson does draft for needs and he's given use his criteria for when he chooses to do that. 

    weak to take need players is all I needed to see. Maybe, probably I'm oversimplifying things, I have a tendency to do that. 

    Grigsons draft strategy (BPA)

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    2 minutes ago, krunk said:

     

    That's not what you read.  He did not say "Only go BPA, Ignore need at all times".  This is how you planted the head line.  He said when player A is clearly better than player B,C, D who are need players he is going to take player A because his scouts put a lot of work into identifying the best prospects so it would defy the scouting process.   He's already spoken before at this time last year stating that if the BPA is very close talent wise to the need players on the board he'll pick a need player.   You put things out there for us to read it as "Grigson said forget about needs" and it's not what he said. 

    Dude, I was only generalizing what he said. The article said drafting for need is weak, how do u want me to take that? I saw it would be disrespectful to scouts. so what?

    Grigsons draft strategy (BPA)

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    7 hours ago, jskinnz said:

     

    So are you of the belief that biggest needs should be addressed in order of importance?

     

    If picking at 18 and the highest rated player in their position of need is at 30th on the Colts board, you would advocate picking that player at 18 regardless?

    It would depend on the position.  in some cases I would. Obviously I think of building a team differently than most do. I think of a house. Fix what needs fixed the most, and what u can afford to fix. then move on to what needs fixed 2nd priority, so on...

    Rivalries in the AFC South

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    On ‎4‎/‎15‎/‎2016 at 1:53 AM, ColtsFanMikeC said:

    We were lucky to have witnessed one of, if not the, greatest rivalry during the Peyton-era in Indy -- that being Colts vs. Patriots.  The rivalry started in the AFC East and continued after we moved to the AFC South.

     

    In Luck's first 3 years, there was some debate as to whether Luck was a great QB leading a team to 11 wins, or if we had the luxury of being in a crappy division with 6 wins handed to us.

     

    I hope (and believe) our team winning 11 wins in Luck's first three years wasn't a fluke. 

     

    Now in the AFC South we have one of the best young QBs in the league and we have to face the Texans with the best young defensive player in the league (JJ Watt) 2 times per year for the next several years.  The Jags and Titans seem to have respectable young QBs in Bortles and Mariota, while the Texans just signed a highly-touted young QB in Osweiler.

     

    There could be a pretty good argument made that the future of the 4 QBs in the AFC South is as bright, if not brighter, than just about any other division in the league.

     

    I hope, with a healthy Luck, we can continue dominating the AFC South -- but am also excited in that what was once considered a garbage division is now becoming, or on its way to becoming, a potentially very competitive division.

     

    My prediction is that we will have another year or 2 fighting with Watt/Osweiler and the Texans while the Titans and Jags play catch-up.  After that, I think this division can turn into one of the strongest divisions in the league (assuming QB health and no major departures).

     

    Any one else have thoughts?

    I have thoughts, colts are not going to dominate anything. going to be lucky to keep pace...

    BPA vs. NEED

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    On ‎4‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 0:27 AM, Superman said:

     

    What if you can get the best OL available and a potential difference maker at another position? Rather than reaching for a lineman that you have rated in the 30s, take a higher rated player. Then when #48 comes around, your lineman might still be there. If not, then you're taking a lineman that you have rated in the 40s, which isn't that big of a difference from the guy you wanted anyways.

     

    In practice, this could mean that instead of drafting Ryan Kelly and Sheldon Day, you could take Sheldon Rankins and Nick Martin. Rankins is way better than Day, while Kelly is only marginally better than Martin. One approach leads to a better roster over time.

     

    And of course, everyone's scouting is different. One team might legitimately feel like Kelly is a top 20 guy, in which case they should stick to their board. 

     

     

    I'm not offended, and I'm not overly concerned about whether your comments were directed toward me or anyone else. But your OP drastically misstated what I and others think about draft strategy.

    Yeah, my analogy was meant to be an eye opener...

    Your Top 8 Priorities For Pick Number 18

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    16 minutes ago, Track Guy said:

    Okay, here's the rules...

     

    We'll assume these 10 players are certainly going to be gone by 18... Of course nothing is guaranteed in the draft, but for argument's sake, let's assume these 10 will be out of reach:

     

    QB

    Carson Wentz

    Jared Goff

     

    RB

    Ezekiel Elliot

     

    OL

    Laremy Tunsil

    Ronnie Stanley

     

    DL

    DeForest Buckner

     

    Edge

    Joey Bosa

     

    LB

    Myles Jack

     

    DB

    Jalen Ramsey

    Vernon Hargreaves

     

    So if these 10 are gone, if you rank your top prospects for our pick 1 - 8, we would be guaranteed to land at least one of them no matter what the 7 picks beforehand are. We would take the one left with your highest ranking, but you could definitely get someone on the list. 

     

    Here is mine off the cuff, maybe I'll refine the list later:

     

    1. Jack Conklin - really high on this guy's ability, I think he's got what it takes to be a plus player in the NFL as well as an immediate starter at guard or tackle.

    2. Andrew Billings - is an impact player at NT, would be helpful in collapsing the pocket. 

    3. Robert Nkemdiche - rare athlete, character issues are a concern.

    4. Sheldon Rankins - my one hesitation is I'm not sure whether he's really a good scheme fit, but he might fit in some way and I think he's going to be a good player at the next level.

    5. Ryan Kelly - warming up to the idea of taking a center in round 1, although I doubt Grigson would do that.

    6. Vernon Butler - I like the guy's movement skill for his size, that's rare and you can't coach it. 

    7. Taylor Decker - I'd be fine with Decker if the Colts staff likes him enough.

    8. Noah Spence - Obviously concerns exist here on the character side, but he could wind up being the best (or at least one of the best) edge rushers in this (admittedly weak) draft.

    I like your first pick, I also like Kelly. I haven't looked much into D.

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